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Does this New Religion have merit?

Aunt Spiker said:
Legends - you know, like Paul Bunyan. He's entirely fictional but some people think he was real.
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Some legends are more contagious than others. That is the question that I am posing. Is Pastafarianism capable of being contagious? I really don't think it will catch on.
 
X Factor said:
I didn't say deeply, I said "sincerely". The whole FSM is a mocking of true religion which is all well and good, just don't try to sell it like it's legit.
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I think your religion is also fake, so I would like you to stop trying to sell it like it's legit. That's only fair, right?

X Factor said:
Are you telling me that you genuinely believe that the FSM is real? And why does it have to be spaghetti? I love pasta. Couldn't it be the Flying Broccoli Monster?
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Of course it can. FSM, like all religions, is entirely defined by the individual. If you want your god to be a blue duck, you can make it a blue duck.
 
Lots of people are peaking at this thread.
 
X Factor said:
And I have been told how delusional and mentally ill I am for believing in God.
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I have been told the same, but I don't care, as truth is something which varies according to the individual, and is based on his ways of perceiving, his experiences, and is not dependent on group concensus. Of course, believers have also told me I am delusional because I don't believe in the same brand that they do, so what it boils down to is that nobody has a market on the whole truth, and I believe it's wise to follow your own instincts, after examination of the information available, and be happy and satisfied with what makes the most sense to you.
 
It's an intentional parody of a religion rather than an intentional religion. The possible way for it to become a barely-legitimate religion would be if that distinction dissipated with any future adherents. Nevertheless, scholars demonstrating it to be a hoax would still be bang-on.

What I would look for in a religion is not only for it to provide moral lessons and ethics, but also used as a means of controlling its adherents.
 
Pastafarianism is OK but the Church of the Subgenius is the only true belief.

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ARE YOU ABNORMAL?

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IF you suspect that things are much worse than you ever suspected...
IF the only thing you've been able to laugh at for the last 5 years is the fact that NOTHING is funny anymore...
IF you sometimes want to collar people on the street and scream that you're more different than they could possibly imagine...
IF you can possibly help us with a donation...
IF you see the whole universe as one vast morbid sense of sick humor...
IF the current "Age of Progress" seems more like the Dark Ages to you...
IF you are looking for an inherently contradictory religion that will condone megadegeneracy and yet tell you that you are "above" everyone else...

Then...

THE CHURCH OF THE SUBGENIUS could save your sanity!

Your secret wishes can be granted in full once you know what they are!

"You'll PAY to know what you REALLY think."-J.R. "Bob" Dobbs, 1961

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Feeling like there's just no SLACK?

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Become a Doktor of the Forbidden Sciences... Make religion a kick-ass adventure! Indulge in Self-Help through Raising Hell!
 
vasuderatorrent said:
Some legends are more contagious than others. That is the question that I am posing. Is Pastafarianism capable of being contagious? I really don't think it will catch on.
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I have been seeing a lot of these on cars in the last year.

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vasuderatorrent said:
Some legends are more contagious than others. That is the question that I am posing. Is Pastafarianism capable of being contagious? I really don't think it will catch on.
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All that's necessary is for some people to think it's a real thing every time they read it/hear about it.

People don't actually have to ever believe it.

That's the kind of thing that fuels snopes.com
 
There was a member who claimed to be a Pastafarian. He claimed to have written a book about Pastafarianism, something about feminism and Pastism IIRC (a female Pasta god?). He claimed to have posted youtube videos about it. He was very seriously into it, and (I know this sounds strange) he did not seem to be joking. I don't remember his name.
 
Hard Truth said:
Pastafarianism is OK but the Church of the Subgenius is the only true belief.

dobbs.jpg



ARE YOU ABNORMAL?

Then you are probably BETTER than most people!

IF you suspect that things are much worse than you ever suspected...
IF the only thing you've been able to laugh at for the last 5 years is the fact that NOTHING is funny anymore...
IF you sometimes want to collar people on the street and scream that you're more different than they could possibly imagine...
IF you can possibly help us with a donation...
IF you see the whole universe as one vast morbid sense of sick humor...
IF the current "Age of Progress" seems more like the Dark Ages to you...
IF you are looking for an inherently contradictory religion that will condone megadegeneracy and yet tell you that you are "above" everyone else...

Then...

THE CHURCH OF THE SUBGENIUS could save your sanity!

Your secret wishes can be granted in full once you know what they are!

"You'll PAY to know what you REALLY think."-J.R. "Bob" Dobbs, 1961

NOW, AT LAST! The step-by-step process is revealed! THIS IS IT! The only "faith" that promises ACTION, THRILLS, SUCCESS IN SEX AND BUSINESS!

Feeling like there's just no SLACK?

You may have 'snapped' already from the information disease! ("The sleep of reason begets monsters.") Look to the High Unpredictables of the Church of the SubGenius for pancultural deprogramming and resynchronization!

Perfect your subliminal vision, edit your memory, relive your reincarnality! SYNC UP! THE SUBGENIUS MUST HAVE SLACK!

Using SubGenius secrets of BULLDADA and MOREALISM you can now MIRACULOUSLY ELIMINATE COMPULSIVE URGES such as smoking, eating, sleeping, working; end baldness, constipation, sex-money problems, assouliness, and painful shortage of SLACK!

Become a Doktor of the Forbidden Sciences... Make religion a kick-ass adventure! Indulge in Self-Help through Raising Hell!
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Does this religion date back to the 1960's? before the 1960's? after the 1960's? This is the first that I have heard of the Church of the Subgenuis.
 
vasuderatorrent said:
Do you see any similarities to my user name and the author's name? This is my favorite book.
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Well then, the mystery is solved. It's kinda sad, though, when ones favorite book is one they wrote.
 
vasuderatorrent said:
Does this new religion have merit?

Here is a song that was inspired by the words from the pages of the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.





Pastafarians do not believe in gravity. Pastafarians believe that things are held down by the touching of the Flying Spaghetti Monster's noodley appendages. They do not believe in gravity. They believe in a scientific term known as Intelligent Falling. To keep shorter people from falling off of the earth the Flying Spaghetti Monster must reach down further. It is believed that because the Flying Spaghetti Monster makes a greater effort to hold short people to the ground that he loves them more. The first creature that the Flying Spaghetti Monster created was a midget.




It is one of the fears of Pastafarians that some people take their religion too seriously and miss out on a joyful life. The spirit of their faith is to bring humor to an otherwise hostile discussion. The Flying Spaghetti Monster has even showed humor in his creation. The Duckbill Platypus is one example given in the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. The Flying Spaghetti Monster recommends (he never demands anything) that we never take ourselves too seriously.



There are no documented deaths attributed to the Pastafarian religion. This is something of which they are very proud. Tolerance, humor and a lesser demanding god are some of the things that have made this a reality. Let's be honest, the short time span of which Pastafarianism has existed can also be attributed to their success.



One of the appeals of the Pastafarian religion is their low moral standards. Just like noodles their morals are flimsy. They can wibble and wobble from being strong to being weak depending on the convenience of the situation. Perhaps this part of the song could be challenged. Their morals are not really weak as much as they are flexible.




This was no doubt a poetic license on the part of the author but still inspired by their scripture. A lot of the text in the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster contradicts itself. These paradoxes were put into place by the Flying Spaghetti Monster to test the reader's faith. This concept is described in the first few pages of the book. (Note: This is not in the book. This is a result of the author's own inspiration. Noodles need heat to take on form and character. We probably need heat or some sort of standard to improve our character. Low moral standards take away the heat or motivation for us to behave. I see it as a paradox but one that cannot be overcame with thoughtful inquiry.)




This is very important for Pastafarians. They are encouraged to think things out. The Flying Spaghetti Monster even asks his followers not to take everything that he says for fact. They are encouraged to use their noodle so to speak. They are to use their brain for solving problems even on the subject of morality.



This is the most powerful statement of the Pastafarian religion. Rejecting dogma is something that they do to such an extreme that they are even open to the possibility that the Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't exist. All that they demand is proof of His non-existence. Once it is proven that the Flying Spaghetti Monster does not exist, Pastafarians can still practice the willingness to use their brain to solve complex life problems.

I hope that this song makes some sense of what is said in the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. I was truly inspired by the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster although I don't quite see this religion as having any potential for longevity. For the uninformed student of Pastafarianism, I do hope this post was informative and useful.

Well, you got that off your chest. That means there's some value but don't expect any affirmation from anyone who thinks.
Not that you care, of course. This is even more blatant than your last troll with the subject.
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This whole thread was unbelievable, but hilarious...
 
Gardener said:
It amazesme that anybody couldpossibly fail to understand that this thread, along with the entire "flying spagetti monster" shtik is just the mocking of religious views,and not any sort of actual religion.
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And that's all saying but it's like I'm speaking a foreign language.

Me: Nobody sincerely believes in the FSM.

Response: Someone could

Me: But nobody does.

Response: It's just as likely as your God or May the Noodle monster molest you with its noodly appendage.

Me: But nobody believes in the actual existence of the FSM.

Response: But somebody could.

Around and around we go.
 
X Factor said:
And that's all saying but it's like I'm speaking a foreign language.

Me: Nobody sincerely believes in the FSM.

Response: Someone could

Me: But nobody does.

Response: It's just as likely as your God or May the Noodle monster molest you with its noodly appendage.

Me: But nobody believes in the actual existence of the FSM.

Response: But somebody could.

Around and around we go.
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Well when they do, it will be a religion. That doesn't prevent us from demonstrating that it's origins meant it to be a parody of religion. In essence, the worship of a false religion.
 
Fiddytree said:
Well when they do, it will be a religion. That doesn't prevent us from demonstrating that it's origins meant it to be a parody of religion. In essence, the worship of a false religion.
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Was Yahweh worship a parody of Baal worship? Was Judaism a parody of Yahweh worship? Was Christianity a parody of Judaism? Was Islam a parody of Judaism? Was Buddhism a parody of Hinduism? Was Catholicism a parody of Christianity? Was Protestantism a parody of Catholicism? Was Mormonism a parody of Protestantism? Was Jehovah Witnesses a parody of Protestantism?

Whether a religion is false, fake, dishonest or has the objective to humiliate another religion doesn't make or break it's potential for longevity. I think a religion last based upon it's ability to relate to the human elements that we all share regardless of our culture or the time period in which we live.

I think Pastafarianism fails to meet that criteria. A religion doesn't suck just because it isn't true. A religion sucks when it fails to relate to ever single human being across all barriers whether they be barriers of time, barriers of culture or some other barrier that causes the observer to ignore the religion.

Pastafarianism is widely unknown and frequently dismissed.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
I think your religion is also fake, so I would like you to stop trying to sell it like it's legit. That's only fair, right?
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I'm well aware of what you think of my religion. The difference is that I sincerely believe in God, which is untrue about the whole FSM thing.

I honestly don't know how to dumb it down any further.

Of course it can. FSM, like all religions, is entirely defined by the individual. If you want your god to be a blue duck, you can make it a blue duck.
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The clearest indication that the whole FSM is a fake is that you aren't hostile to it.
 
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