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Money Or Love?

Tigger said:
REALISTS.



After watching both sets of my grandparents die, and much more intimately watching my father wither away and die from Cancer; combined with my own inter-personal experiences over the last 4 decades, I've learned that there is nothing of value to be gained from getting that attached to another person, EVER. I find love to be of no value whatsoever. It is no help when that person betrays your trust or moves on with their own life. It's not worth it. At least money, properly invested brings a return. Love does not.
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That is pitiful but not surprising coming from you..
 
I've been a puppet, a pauper, a pirate,
A poet, a pawn and a king.
I've been up and down and over and out
But I know one thing:
Each time I find myself flat on my face,
I pick myself up and get back in the race.

That's life...(as the song says)

I've read some really great philosophical things above love in this forum. And I think that people who are at different stages in their lives experience love in different ways and maybe if love could really be defined, there might be a lot of definitions.

But I also think that money can mean, or be valued, in different ways for different people...especially at different times in their lives.

There's an old saying that people who have never had money are the first to say, "Money can't buy you happiness" or "Money can't buy you love." Maybe...maybe not.

So if love is your thing...good on ya.

If money does it for ya....fantastic.

I prefer Both.

So I guess that I can't bring myself to say "one or the other" or give a "either / or" answer - if I'm honest about it all. Well, at least at this point in my life. Tomorrow? Who knows....
 
All you need is love.

John Lennon. Smart Man. Shot in the back. Very sad.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
Perhaps you were doing it wrong?
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Doing what wrong?.... living my life? Existing?

FreedomFromAll said:
To each their own lives played out how each individual wants it to play out despite the interference.
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We don't all have the luxury of determining our own course in life.

Juanita said:
That is pitiful but not surprising coming from you..
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Insanity is doing the same thing multiple times and expecting different results.
 
Tigger said:
Doing what wrong?.... living my life? Existing?
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Apparently since literally millions of humans have love in their life. Think about that, you must be doing something wrong and instead of learning from your mistakes you just kept doing the same thing over expecting different results until one day you gave up.



We don't all have the luxury of determining our own course in life.
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Are you a mindless robot?



Insanity is doing the same thing multiple times and expecting different results.
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Your sentence here sounds more like meme than anything. The word insanity isnt used medically anymore. Not being able to love, then trying every effort to avoid it is a sign of mental disorder. there isnt any need to continue avoiding life or even being encouraged to end it, get help. Certainly money could buy you a therapist.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
Apparently since literally millions of humans have love in their life. Think about that, you must be doing something wrong and instead of learning from your mistakes you just kept doing the same thing over expecting different results until one day you gave up.
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My biggest mistake was to keep trying. To keep trying to change my Fate. That's a fool's endeavour. Our Fate cannot be changed. Eventually one must simply accept that.

FreedomFromAll said:
Are you a mindless robot?
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To a certain degree, and when it comes to a large number of things in my life YES I am basically a mindless robot. I have come to believe certain things are and are not appropriate and there is no changing those views, so I may as well be little more than a programmed automaton.

FreedomFromAll said:
Your sentence here sounds more like meme than anything. The word insanity isnt used medically anymore. Not being able to love, then trying every effort to avoid it is a sign of mental disorder. there isnt any need to continue avoiding life or even being encouraged to end it, get help. Certainly money could buy you a therapist.
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It's actually a fairly famous quote. I have little use for what the "medical community" does or does not believe in. I've been in therapy three times (ages 8, 22, and 36). On each occasion the therapist has decided within 6-12 months that there was nothing that could be done with/for me and that continuing the sessions was simply a waste of time and money.
 
I don't think the question is really about love vs. money, but greed vs. love. It's proved that rich countries suffer far, far more mental illness than poorer countries. Clearly wealth makes you miserable, so go and find a healthier way of judging success.
 
Definitely love. A life filled with love and lived with good morals and the goal to better yourself and your understanding the world is the ultimate virtue. Attaining the highest form of knowledge is more valuable than money. A life built atop of vice, where one just cares for himself and not his community, and where he shows no compassion or morals, is a life not worth living.
 
Tigger said:
Money, without a doubt. I ddin't even need to finish reading the first post to have the answer. Love doesn't really exist, and even if it did, it's value is variable and transient in many, if not most cases. The value of monetary wealth is much greater and much longer lasting, if properly managed.
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Haven't found it yet, have you?
 
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