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most evil religious figures in world history

IMHO, the most evil figure tied to any faith or spirituality in history is:

  • Anton LaVey;

    Votes: 1 25.0%

  • Godfrey of Bouillon;

    Votes: 1 25.0%

  • Grigori Rasputin;

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Jacques de Molay;

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Madame Helena Blavatsky;

    Votes: 1 25.0%

  • Aleister Crowley;

    Votes: 2 50.0%

  • Adam Weishaupt;

    Votes: 2 50.0%

  • Nathan Bedford Forrest;

    Votes: 1 25.0%

  • Albert Pike;

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • some pope whose name I'm too afraid to say aloud because The Church might retaliate.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
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Logicman said:
Don't confuse murder with divine justice.
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Those are mostly the same thing. Just because one wields the bigger gun doesn't mean that their force is anything but.
 
shart attack said:
Who, in your opinions, are some of the most evil figures associated with religion and spirituality in world history?
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Torquemada, Grand Inquisitor during the Inquisition in Spain. Bad dude!
 
Are we not doing "Hitler was a Christian" yet?
 
Ikari said:
Those are mostly the same thing. Just because one wields the bigger gun doesn't mean that their force is anything but.
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Sorry, I don't see putting, say, a Ted Bundy to death is murder. It's justice.
 
Logicman said:
Sorry, I don't see putting, say, a Ted Bundy to death is murder. It's justice.
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of course you don't, you're trying to explain away your desire to kill human beings.
 
joG said:
Not an easy call. I suppose we shouldn't consider absolutist ideologies religions. Personally I tend to but that would be unfair.
But even so, there are some nasties in histry. Khomeini was one that comes to mind.
Pope Innocent iii was a real Juwel and the Crusades brought some fine evil out in men on both sides.
Or think of Catherine de Medici. She demonstrated that she knew how to be a real devil of a girl on St Bartholomew's Day.
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The frightening part is that there are so many to choose from, in addition to those listed! It doesn't say much for the human race! :afraid: :scared:!

Greetings, joG. :2wave:
 
Most evil religious figure?

It's a three way tie between Muhamed, Jesus, and Abraham.
 
KevinKohler said:
Most evil religious figure?

It's a three way tie between Muhamed, Jesus, and Abraham.
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<chuckle>

Jesus is a Savior, not a butcher. Although in the end he will put the God haters and unrepentant heathens in a pit where they belong.
 
Logicman said:
Jesus is a Savior, not a butcher. Although in the end he will put the God haters and unrepentant heathens in a pit where they belong.
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So, technically, it's not butchery to throw someone into an escape-proof torture pit for disobeying your orders, but it seems to amount to the same thing.
 
ashurbanipal said:
So, technically, it's not butchery to throw someone into an escape-proof torture pit for disobeying your orders, but it seems to amount to the same thing.
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It just seems that way to you!

You ok with dismembering the helpless unborn in their mother's wombs when they don't want them?
 
Logicman said:
It just seems that way to you!
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It certainly does seem that way to me. It should seem that way to everyone. If you want to convince me otherwise, you'll have your work cut out for you.

Logicman said:
You ok with dismembering the helpless unborn in their mother's wombs when they don't want them?
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It depends. I'm certainly not OK with dismembering human beings.
 
Logicman said:
Typical left wing nonsense.
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Or statement of reality. You're looking to justify the killing of a human in a way that you can equate some "positive" morality to the act of killing.
 
Ikari said:
Or statement of reality. You're looking to justify the killing of a human in a way that you can equate some "positive" morality to the act of killing.
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Justice.

You know, a lot of liberals don't like justice. They make up all kinds of excuses for an individual who was caught in crime. "Oh, they had a rough childhood," or maybe they had a rhoid bothering them or some other nonsense. Then liberal judges set them free or give them short sentences and they go on killing and maiming and committing other crimes. I'm sick of the brain dead liberals doing that sort of thing. And the reason they do it is because they don't know right from wrong, or good from evil. And if they did see evil they don't know how to handle it. That's why they like the U.N. so they can do an Obama and go there and run their mouths forever while the bad guys keep creating mayhem in the world.

And I'll make you a bet that when Israel knocks out Iran's nuclear facilities so they won't get the bomb and destroy Israel (like they promised), then people like you will eviscerate Israel as the bad guys. Watch for that on CNN and PMSNBC.
 
Logicman said:
Justice.

You know, a lot of liberals don't like justice. They make up all kinds of excuses for an individual who was caught in crime. "Oh, they had a rough childhood," or maybe they had a rhoid bothering them or some other nonsense. Then liberal judges set them free or give them short sentences and they go on killing and maiming and committing other crimes. I'm sick of the brain dead liberals doing that sort of thing. And the reason they do it is because they don't know right from wrong, or good from evil. And if they did see evil they don't know how to handle it. That's why they like the U.N. so they can do an Obama and go there and run their mouths forever while the bad guys keep creating mayhem in the world.

And I'll make you a bet that when Israel knocks out Iran's nuclear facilities so they won't get the bomb and destroy Israel (like they promised), then people like you will eviscerate Israel as the bad guys. Watch for that on CNN and PMSNBC.
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This is nothing more than paranoia and hysterics.
 
Ikari said:
This is nothing more than paranoia and hysterics.
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Ha. Have you been watching Obama bend over for Iran? THEY'RE STILL BUILDING THE BOMB.

You know, I really loved that one comment from JB Williams, which read:

"Their (the liberal's) inability to grasp the obvious leads them into that corner every time and once there, once diplomacy has run its course without results, they are out of business." (end of quote)

In other words, after the appeasing liberals are done with their seemingly endless hot-air, wind-jamming sessions at the inept and corrupt U.N. - after clinging desperately to the coat tails of John Kerry and Rosie O'Donnell; after all their gutless Jane Fonda and Cindy Sheehan surrender rallies and Neville Chamberlain pseudo-peace ploys; and with the bad guys still refusing to budge one iota - they're done. Finis. Game over. That's all there is from the libs, there isn't any more. Not even a lethal dose of Viagra can possibly get them to stand strong now. All that’s left for them is to go home, wring their hands, and wait for the WMD’s to come crashing down on their Greenpeace-utopian fantasyland.
 
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Justice is a demure concept, but I do believe in preventative/corrective measures.

Sometimes people don't work correctly, to the point that they cause unacceptable damage while we lack the means and knowledge to make them work right again. Unfortunate as it is, sometimes it's best just to cut them out of society like a cancerous tumor out of the body.

Maybe someday we can move beyond this point, and really map out the function of the human mind to perhaps mend an individual's destructive ways (or perhaps remove the sources that causes it altogether, preferably in a fashion more direct and less crude than lobotomy). Until then, for now, I think the chopping block is the best thing we have for those incurable cases. Far from perfect, and not even close to ideal... but it's what we have.
 
polgara said:
The frightening part is that there are so many to choose from, in addition to those listed! It doesn't say much for the human race! :afraid: :scared:!

Greetings, joG. :2wave:
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Hi polgara :D
Yep! Not nice. It is mind boggling to try to put together a list let alone sort it for the degree of badness. See you :2wave:
 
Logicman said:
Ha. Have you been watching Obama bend over for Iran? THEY'RE STILL BUILDING THE BOMB.

You know, I really loved that one comment from JB Williams, which read:

"Their (the liberal's) inability to grasp the obvious leads them into that corner every time and once there, once diplomacy has run its course without results, they are out of business." (end of quote)

In other words, after the appeasing liberals are done with their seemingly endless hot-air, wind-jamming sessions at the inept and corrupt U.N. - after clinging desperately to the coat tails of John Kerry and Rosie O'Donnell; after all their gutless Jane Fonda and Cindy Sheehan surrender rallies and Neville Chamberlain pseudo-peace ploys; and with the bad guys still refusing to budge one iota - they're done. Finis. Game over. That's all there is from the libs, there isn't any more. Not even a lethal dose of Viagra can possibly get them to stand strong now. All that’s left for them is to go home, wring their hands, and wait for the WMD’s to come crashing down on their Greenpeace-utopian fantasyland.
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It's nothing more than partisan drivel where you seem to equate the only form of justice being the killing of people you think deserve it, and if anyone says differently then they don't believe in "justice", as if there are no other ways to punish than through the death penalty. Then it runs off the reservation with conspiracy theories against Israel and other nonsense.

Obama has continued Bush's War on the Middle East rather swimmingly actually.

As I said, paranoia and hysterics.
 
Ikari said:
It's nothing more than partisan drivel where you seem to equate the only form of justice being the killing of people you think deserve it, and if anyone says differently then they don't believe in "justice", as if there are no other ways to punish than through the death penalty. Then it runs off the reservation with conspiracy theories against Israel and other nonsense.

Obama has continued Bush's War on the Middle East rather swimmingly actually.

As I said, paranoia and hysterics.
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Obama bent over for Iran, didn't he? THEY'RE STILL BUILDING THE BOMB and this appeasing radical president is letting them.
 
Logicman said:
The omniscience of God is objective, not subjective. You can see examples of it in the Bible / New Testament.
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You can only claim it is objective within a framework of said belief.

Otherwise it is subjective no matter what, even within the belief, because it can not be proven.
 
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