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do you think you are on god's ignore list ?

do you think you are on god's ignore list ?

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No, I can't be on God's ignore list, because I occasionally get in his face, just to make sure I'm on his mind. ;)

Putting my serious face on now, no, I don't think I can be ignored by God, because I don't see myself as separate from it. I don't expect any special favors. I just try to stay in tune with it, and hope for a faint glimpse of light on the shoreline, from time to time.
 
lizzie said:
No, I can't be on God's ignore list, because I occasionally get in his face, just to make sure I'm on his mind. ;)

Putting my serious face on now, no, I don't think I can be ignored by God, because I don't see myself as separate from it. I don't expect any special favors. I just try to stay in tune with it, and hope for a faint glimpse of light on the shoreline, from time to time.
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lizzie are you deist ?
 
Medusa said:
can you clarify it ?
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Not really. It's not a well-defined idea, as it is just something that is a part of me and a part of my life philosophy. I don't view myself as separate from God, but rather as an expression of it. It's pretty much an idea that life as it is, is good. I tend to view life as an opportunity for learning, and the experiences as my teachers. Some of it is good, and some of it is heart-wrenching, but it makes me what I am, and I am okay with what and who I am.
 
Sort of a tangent, but the OP has a good analogy for a problem that's been bugging me. Supposedly, god cares whether or not we think he's real and whether or not we like him. Some people claim to be personally visited by this god, or at least directly communicated with by him. And they cite this as the source of their faith, and thus their salvation. Isn't that cheating? Why should this god selectively hand out knowledge to some people and not to others? Doesn't that violate the argument that we're all free to choose? If I were to meet a god, I'd believe in it. But I haven't, so I don't. And this supposedly makes me deserving of cosmic punishment, but someone equally skeptical might meet this god, and thus believe in it.

That doesn't make any sense.
 
lizzie said:
Not really. It's not a well-defined idea, as it is just something that is a part of me and a part of my life philosophy. I don't view myself as separate from God, but rather as an expression of it. It's pretty much an idea that life as it is, is good. I tend to view life as an opportunity for learning, and the experiences as my teachers. Some of it is good, and some of it is heart-wrenching, but it makes me what I am, and I am okay with what and who I am.
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thats why l asked it.your thoughts really are similar to panentheism and sufist interpretations in islam
 
Paschendale said:
Some people claim to be personally visited by this god, or at least directly communicated with by him. And they cite this as the source of their faith, and thus their salvation. Isn't that cheating? Why should this god selectively hand out knowledge to some people and not to others? Doesn't that violate the argument that we're all free to choose?
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There is no way to "cheat". God is perceived by different people, in different ways. Some never have any perception at all, which is neither good nor bad. It just is. I don't expect anyone to think the same way as I about God, and I have no desire whatsoever to convince people that what I think and believe is right, as God and religion are personal, and cannot be proven. I think that much depends on what one thinks the role of God should be. If one feels powerless, he/she may be inclined toward believing in a God that shelters and protects them. I don't want a God which acts as a protective father, or as a provider. My religious life is one of being in tune with the spirit of life, and acting with purpose and creativity.
 
lizzie said:
There is no way to "cheat". God is perceived by different people, in different ways. Some never have any perception at all, which is neither good nor bad. It just is. I don't expect anyone to think the same way as I about God, and I have no desire whatsoever to convince people that what I think and believe is right, as God and religion are personal, and cannot be proven. I think that much depends on what one thinks the role of God should be. If one feels powerless, he/she may be inclined toward believing in a God that shelters and protects them. I don't want a God which acts as a protective father, or as a provider. My religious life is one of being in tune with the spirit of life, and acting with purpose and creativity.
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l believe god is in one's heart and shows himself by means of your mercy you show to the others.l can claim everybody who has a conscience may be seen as a believer somehow.but now we can ask the question why god ignores the african children and lets them die of hunger if he is merciful ?

many atheists ask this question ,so do l sometimes although l believe in god when l feel so hopeless .but such low level questions dont represent a philosophic argument ,unlikely it just makes us look like little children .we forget that god isnt a magician and this life is really a place we have to be tested by him in a timeless dimension ( it is said god exists independent of time ).so whom we need to accuse of causing disasters ,hungers etc in life is not god ,it is humans
 
Medusa said:
you believe in god by heart but you also think he ignores you whatever you try to be a kind person ? do you think we should be more grateful to him if we want to reach the serenity we need in life ? from a religious perspective ?
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I picked other.Considering all the bad stuff that happens in the world like innocent people being killed, people dying of cancers and other diseases,oppressive governments,people all over the world starving and all kinds of other suffering I believe God just does not care, so I think everybody is on God's ignore list.
 
jamesrage said:
I picked other.Considering all the bad stuff that happens in the world like innocent people being killed, people dying of cancers and other diseases,oppressive governments,people all over the world starving and all kinds of other suffering I believe God just does not care, so I think everybody is on God's ignore list.
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rich conservatives arent
 
Medusa said:
rich conservatives arent
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I believe they are on God's ignore list too.Any wealth they obtained was through their own doing or inherited from a relative.
 
jamesrage said:
I believe they are on God's ignore list too.Any wealth they obtained was through their own doing or inherited from a relative.
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or from stealing from the others by exploiting the workers
 
Yes, without a doubt I'm on the Christian God's "Ignore List". I have been for a very long time and most likely will be for the rest of time. See, He and I had a parting of ways. I saw through His shell game and called Him out on it. So I'm quite sure He has no use for me anymore.

As for the Gods and Goddesses that I follow.... most of them don't really involve themselves in the daily lives of mere mortals, so EVERYONE is pretty much on their Ignore List.
 
Tigger said:
Yes, without a doubt I'm on the Christian God's "Ignore List". I have been for a very long time and most likely will be for the rest of time. See, He and I had a parting of ways. I saw through His shell game and called Him out on it. So I'm quite sure He has no use for me anymore.

As for the Gods and Goddesses that I follow.... most of them don't really involve themselves in the daily lives of mere mortals, so EVERYONE is pretty much on their Ignore List.
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so your neo classic conservativism comes from more than one god ?:2razz:
 
Medusa said:
so your neo classic conservativism comes from more than one god ?:2razz:
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I'm not that type of Conservative. I'm more like a Traditionalist Conservative though even that isn't 100% correct since I don't place any relevance in Religion, only Morality.
 
Tigger said:
I'm not that type of Conservative. I'm more like a Traditionalist Conservative though even that isn't 100% correct since I don't place any relevance in Religion, only Morality.
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but not many traditionalists live in 19th century:mrgreen:
 
Medusa said:
but not many traditionalists live in 19th century:mrgreen:
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Plenty lived in the 19th Century. Not many of us still exist in the 21st Century.
 
Raised as a Christian, and it's not for me to affirm or deny the diety of Christ, or a God.

I do find the Buddist Path much more logical, and more importantly much more workable for myself. The law of karma (dependent origination),
determines what happens next, and even how I was born into human form.

On the specific level, the term karma refers specifically to those actions which spring from the intention (Sanskrit, Pali: cetanā) of a sentient being.
Karmic actions are compared to a seed that will inevitably ripen into a result or fruition (referred to as vipāka or phala in Sanskrit and Pali).

On the general level, contemporary Buddhist teachers frequently use the term karma when referring to the entire process of karmic action and result
(karmaphala in Sanskrit and Pali).

The theory of karmic action and result (karmaphala) is one of the foundational concepts of Buddhist philosophy.
In the Buddhist view, developing a genuine, experiential understanding of karmic action and result—how all of one' actions will have a corresponding result—is an essential aspect of the Buddhist path
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Karma in Buddhism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
One thing I think we can all agree on , is your life is your personal responsibility, though the "revelaton religions" proscribe the beliefs
that are supposed to guide you.
 
There's a God and a devil, I'm sure it must be
But why should I bother them, they don't bother me
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-Ten Years After
 
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