Prejudice vs Racist

Does anybody else differentiate between prejudice and racist? I do. I might say something someone said is prejudice or an action is prejudice but I wont call a person prejudice because I believe every last person on the planet is prejudice. Racist, however, I reserve for people who insult other races or nationalities.

Amandi said:

Does anybody else differentiate between prejudice and racist? I do. I might say something someone said is prejudice or an action is prejudice but I wont call a person prejudice because I believe every last person on the planet is prejudice. Racist, however, I reserve for people who insult other races or nationalities.

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I try to do the same but find that often people do not understand the distinction. They claim I am calling them a racist, when I am not, I just go with it now because I am tired of the argument.

Amandi said:

Does anybody else differentiate between prejudice and racist? I do. I might say something someone said is prejudice or an action is prejudice but I wont call a person prejudice because I believe every last person on the planet is prejudice. Racist, however, I reserve for people who insult other races or nationalities.

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Insults do not equal racism, and a nationality is not a race.

If they are insulting a race, I do believe it is racism. I know by definition you are right about nationality is not race but if I head someone say "Antarticans are cold hearted," I would consider that a racist remark.

When I walk down the street and I see some white kids in hoodies, smoking and talking at the street corner, I think that they're hooligans. That's prejudice because I don't know them personally, but based on general experience, I know that people who are like that tend to cause problems for no good reason. Same for many other kinds of people like frat boys. Or if I see a woman with a lot of makeup, 20cm heels and a short red dress by the side of the street, I tend to think she's a prostitute. Now I don't know her personally but based on her attire and the fact that i wasn't born yesterday, you know ,I draw some conclusions.

The only difference is that when it's another race involved, idiots, especially people who I call any of the following:
-terminally tolerant
-politically correct-lobotomized
-naive morons
-high-horse masturbators (just made this one up)

yell racism when I give the same treatment as I described above to people of another race. So if I see a group of blacks with hoodies and talking at the street corner, I'll form the exact same opinion as above and stay clear of them. Because they're most likely idiots who will be looking for trouble.

So this is prejudice basically.
Racism is something else (or should be something else... and that something else is a serious thing). Or it's nothing really since most people who yell racism yell it for no good reason. It's a term that has been so diluted that aside from the people who fit into the categories mentioned above, nobody else should take this seriously. It's a term that has all but lost all value because it's been employed to attack people for no good reason for too many times. So something that should describe attitudes that cause real harm and damage to a group of people based on a shared characteristic is used in anything from not getting a raise despite not deserving it to getting lower test scores because the tests are "culturally biased". Yes, they're culturally biased against stupid people and those who don't want to learn. so yeah, there is plenty more to say on the topic but it's been discussed so many times, revisiting older threads is like having a deja vu.

You had me laughing. I do think I agree though. I do also think it is prejudice if I am walking down the street and see a man in boots, jeans, and a cowboy hat and think he likes country music. It's not negative but it is still prejudice.

Rainman05 said:

So if I see a group of blacks with hoodies and talking at the street corner, I'll form the exact same opinion as above and stay clear of them. Because they're most likely idiots who will be looking for trouble.

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Or they might be, you know, cold. Or something. Could make sense in an abstract world.

Amandi said:

Does anybody else differentiate between prejudice and racist? I do. I might say something someone said is prejudice or an action is prejudice but I wont call a person prejudice because I believe every last person on the planet is prejudice. Racist, however, I reserve for people who insult other races or nationalities.

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Prejudice is the act of negatively pre-judging a person based on their appearance, mannerisms, or on their various ethnic, political, religious or social associations, etc... rather than judging them based on who they are as an individual. Prejudice is expressed in thoughts, words and/or actions, while racism is merely one of the many forms that prejudice can take.

There is no such thing as a racist who isn't prejudice... But there are plenty of people in the world who are prejudice, that are not racists.

Everybody is prejudice in one way or another, at least to some extent. It's an unfortunate part of human nature. All too often people confuse prejudice for racism, either by accident or by design, and I for one am sick and tired of it. All too often I'm accused of being a racist, when the truth is quite the opposite. I deplore racism and have not been shy about expressing it both here, and in my day to day life. I simply have no tolerance for it and I do little to cover that intolerance up when racism rears it's ugly head.

Being a conservative I've seen this confusion of the 2 take place many times first hand since Obama took office. For example, some conservatives have labeled Obama the "food stamp president", to which many on the left have classified as a "racist" comment. That simply isn't true. Although racism has nothing to do with that label, you could argue that prejudice might have been a part of both that label, as well as the racist label that the left responded with. On the conservative side, I'm not talking about racial prejudice, but rather a liberal prejudice that many on the right have against the left because of the social welfare and entitlement policies they support and endorse. On the other side, it could be argued that the reason they called that label "racist" was because of a republican/conservative prejudice that many of them have against conservatives...

Either way, calling that label "racist" is just flat out wrong. Hell, If Hillary Clinton would have been elected president instead of Obama, and she took the identical path that Obama has taken since being elected, she would have received the exact same "food stamp" label from the right, because we would still have the same record number of food stamp recipients as we do now, and because just like Obama, she's also a liberal democrat... The only difference of course, is that the left wouldn't be calling it a racist comment... An anti-woman comment maybe, but certainly not a racist one.

Some of my closest friends are Asian or Indian, I mock their nationalities and race all the time, then they make fun of mine. People need to harden the **** up. If everyone treated race as something unimportant, racists would lose their power.

instagramsci said:

Or they might be, you know, cold. Or something. Could make sense in an abstract world.

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Or they might be discussing the differences between microstrip and stripline semiconductors but I still wouldn't go to their little group and contribute because chances are they're discussing about strippers and doing microtransactions for drugs.

The majority don't know the difference between racial prejudice and racism. Blacks included.

Amandi said:

Does anybody else differentiate between prejudice and racist?

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Certainly. Prejudice can be used as both a noun and a verb, but not an adjective while racist can be used as a noun and an adjective, but not a verb.

Amandi said:

I do. I might say something someone said is prejudice or an action is prejudice but I wont call a person prejudice because I believe every last person on the planet is prejudice. Racist, however, I reserve for people who insult other races or nationalities.

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It doesn't really appear that you do at all, because you should be saying that something a person says DISPLAYS prejudice or call a person prejudiceD.

If you are going to tout your understanding of terms, at least show that you have a rudimentary understanding of their usage.

Gardener said:

Certainly. Prejudice can be used as both a noun and a verb, but not an adjective while racist can be used as a noun and an adjective, but not a verb.



It doesn't really appear that you do at all, because you should be saying that something a person says DISPLAYS prejudice or call a person prejudiceD.

If you are going to tout your understanding of terms, at least show that you have a rudimentary understanding of their usage.

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Oh, you grammar nazi, you! rof

Actually, I had the exact same reaction to the OP. lol

Arcana XV said:

Oh, you grammar nazi, you! rof

Actually, I had the exact same reaction to the OP. lol

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Admit it Ma Amie -- I DO look good in the uniform, don't I?

Amandi said:

Does anybody else differentiate between prejudice and racist? I do.

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I do too. As Grim said, everyone is prejudiceD in one way or another, but not necessarily in racist ways. I also agree with him that all racists are prejudiceD, it goes with the territory.

Gardener said:

Admit it Ma Ami -- I DO look good in the uniform, don't I?

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I practically swooned.

And it's MON amiE. rof

Arcana XV said:

I practically swooned.

And it's MON amiE. rof

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I see I got you to try it on, too.

Hot damn!!

Arcana XV said:

I do too. As Grim said, everyone is prejudiceD in one way or another, but not necessarily in racist ways. I also agree with him that all racists are prejudiceD, it goes with the territory.

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Now who's the grammer nazi

Prejudice is a common, if regrettable, cognitive tendency to think the worse of other groups based on stereotypes. It's a form of confirmation bias in most cases. Virtually everybody is prejudiced in one way or another, even if they know better. It's like superstition. You can know it's wrong, but still be influenced by it.

Racism is an ideology which claims that one group is superior to another, modernly based on discredited genetic theory, but in the past based on various other false claims (using the bible or history or progress or some other distorted premise). Racism has a history and arose in the form we mean today during the rise of European colonialism, as a way to rationalize the exploitation and extermination of native peoples. It reached its most virulent form with the "theorist" Gabineau, whose racist theories of history become the basis of Nazi ideology. Since racism is based on colonialism, its pretty much a white cultural phenomenon.

Considering I have posted a little over 12 posts and none on this subject, how am I touting anything? I was just asking a question that seemed interesting to me and giving my opinion.

tout /tout/ verb
verb: tout; 3rd person present: touts; past tense: touted; past participle: touted; gerund or present participle: touting
1. attempt to sell (something), typically by pestering people in an aggressive or bold manner.
"Jim was touting his wares"
•attempt to persuade people of the merits of (someone or something).
"the headquarters facility was touted as the best in the country"
synonyms: recommend, speak of, extol, advocate, talk of;
More predict "she's being touted as the next party leader"
• Brit. scalp (a ticket).
synonyms: peddle, sell, hawk, offer for sale, promote
More "street merchants were touting their wares"
2. offer racing tips for a share of any resulting winnings.
• Brit. spy out the movements and condition of (a racehorse in training) in order to gain information to be used when betting.
noun
noun: tout; plural noun: touts
1. a person soliciting custom or business, typically in an aggressive or bold manner.
• Brit. a person who buys tickets for an event to resell them at a profit; a scalper.
2. a person who offers racing tips for a share of any resulting winnings.

Amandi said:

Considering I have posted a little over 12 posts and none on this subject, how am I touting anything? I was just asking a question that seemed interesting to me and giving my opinion.

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You don't fool us, Amandi. We know what you're doing.

Sorry to disapoint but I dont have an alterier motive. However, as I know only time will tell to prove to yall I dont do "gotcha" or bait and switch I can understand that yall wont believe me.

Amandi said:

Sorry to disapoint but I dont have an alterier motive. However, as I know only time will tell to prove to yall I dont do "gotcha" or bait and switch I can understand that yall wont believe me.

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I have little trust in liberals, just ask anyone around here... With that said, I didn't get the impression there was any hidden agenda behind what you posted. If I had, you can bet the farm I would have said something.

I believed yesterday, and still believe today, that your post was honest and above board.

Grim17 said:

I have little trust in liberals, just ask anyone around here... With that said, I didn't get the impression there was any hidden agenda behind what you posted. If I had, you can bet the farm I would have said something.

I believed yesterday, and still believe today, that your post was honest and above board.

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Thank you. We probably will disagree on topics but I promise I do my best to be intellectually honest. I also dont throw out the insult-stop a conversation name throwing of a lot of people (ie calling people racist, sexist, homophobic, or transphobic to name a few) I will use them if truly warranted but not till then (this means I have never used anything ending in phobic because I dont believe people are whatever-phobic)

Amandi said:

Thank you. We probably will disagree on topics but I promise I do my best to be intellectually honest. I also dont throw out the insult-stop a conversation name throwing of a lot of people (ie calling people racist, sexist, homophobic, or transphobic to name a few) I will use them if truly warranted but not till then (this means I have never used anything ending in phobic because I dont believe people are whatever-phobic)

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Well, unfortunately I have a reputation around here for making subtle, and not so subtle comments that enrage many on the left... Something that I do not deny. It comes from all the people I've engaged over the last dozen years who refused to be honest, would blatantly lie about me, my words, my beliefs, and put politics ahead of the truth. I've just encountered so many people who will lie, cheat and steal in order to prop up their political beliefs, that it's taken it's toll on me.

I will promise you this though... If you are honest with me, I will give you the respect you deserve and 86 the inflammatory rhetoric, and if for some reason I don't do that, all you have to do is point out that you have been honest and civil with me, and I will not only treat you with respect, I will openly apologize for my behavior and retract anything I said that you didn't deserve. I will never do someone wrong and not make things right.

I practice what I preach. I never lie in the name of politics, and I don't claim something to be a fact, or the truth, that I'm not willing and able to back up... And that's all I'm asking of the people I engage in debate with.

Guess I'll see you in the trenches