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polgara said:
Good evening, windowdressing. :2wave:

:agree: I'm usually comfortable with intuition, or instinct. Past experience does come into play, and I believe we all have that to draw upon, but logic has to be considered, too. Yesterday we were discussing what our early humans must have gone through, because everything was new to them. Trial and error was the only way they had to learn, and what they learned was passéd on to us, and became truth. What will our responses be when we are traveling to different galaxies in the future? We may have to learn entirely new truths. :shock:
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good evening ... think of all the so-called truths human beings claimed, that turned out not to be truth and they then got new ones ... truth is kinda like deviance, something is true or deviant if a significant number of people or a number of significant people say so ... this is too philosophical for me ... I'm getting a headache ..
 
windowdressing said:
the "truth" may be that there is no truth ... how do you know the truth is the truth?
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Mainly, because it's true for EVERYONE, regardless of what they might "think."

There is ALWAYS a "truth" ~ to ANYTHING.
 
fyrenza said:
Mainly, because it's true for EVERYONE, regardless of what they might "think."

There is ALWAYS a "truth" ~ to ANYTHING.
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my point is that we don't know if that's the case ... who decides if it's true for everyone, regardless of what they think?
 
windowdressing said:
good evening ... think of all the so-called truths human beings claimed, that turned out not to be truth and they then got new ones ... truth is kinda like deviance, something is true or deviant if a significant number of people or a number of significant people say so ... this is too philosophical for me ... I'm getting a headache ..
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I sure agree with that! :thumbs: As an example, even The Old and New Testaments of the Bible had different truths in each. An "eye for an eye" changed to "love your neighbor," yet for the time periods, both were truths. :shock:
 
I think one truth replaced another in that case, but they weren't both true at the same time:cool:

polgara said:
I sure agree with that! :thumbs: As an example, even The Old and New Testaments of the Bible had different truths in each. An "eye for an eye" changed to "love your neighbor," yet for the time periods, both were truths. :shock:
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JC Callender said:
I think one truth replaced another in that case, but they weren't both true at the same time:cool:
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So maybe that was the point that the OP was trying to make? That truth can change over time? Interesting....
 
polgara said:
I sure agree with that! :thumbs: As an example, even The Old and New Testaments of the Bible had different truths in each. An "eye for an eye" changed to "love your neighbor," yet for the time periods, both were truths. :shock:
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gotta go ... be good (unless it gets in the way of having fun) ...
 
The truth simply is.

Attempts to differentiate between one person's take on it and a group of people's take on it doesn't at all affect the truth, regardless of awareness accuracies/inaccuracies.

And, we can tell the truth whether or not we know it's the truth .. just like we can know it's the truth without being able to speak it.
 
polgara said:
I sure agree with that! :thumbs: As an example, even The Old and New Testaments of the Bible had different truths in each. An "eye for an eye" changed to "love your neighbor," yet for the time periods, both were truths. :shock:
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good mornign pol:lol:

as far as l know "love your neighbour " principle is mentioned in both old and new testament
 
"eye for an eye " must be seen as a protection and precaution against threats wherever it comes from

the interpretations of the verses in holy books should conform to the context of those verses

for instance some people pick up some verses from kuran which best serve teh purpose of them showing islam'S bad sides
 
"Objective" and "subjective" need to be defined first.
 
Medusa said:
what is it ? vote please thxxxx..
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The truth is entirely subjected to one's own feelings and way of life. It is why we are who we are and do what we do. It's why we care about politics, religion, philosophy, the future, the past, science, and the outlook of our world/country.
 
Truth is often subjective, *FACTS* are always objective. Truth is almost always meaningless. Go for the facts, that's all that matters.
 
Cephus said:
Truth is often subjective, *FACTS* are always objective. Truth is almost always meaningless. Go for the facts, that's all that matters.
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yes ,and it willl be teh topic of another thread

step by step
 
Cyrylek said:
And then, there are objective truths, period. For example: You exist. Bother to dispute?
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Well, it depends on whether you think that you are only the physical. Sure, there's a body that can be seen, touched, heard, etc, but there's also the part of you (mind) which isn't something that can be proven to exist. Do you identify more with mind, heart, spiritual aspects, etc, or with the physical body. Some of the eastern religions imply that life is an illusion, and that the "real" part of the human is what remains after all else is stripped away. It's an interesting concept.
 
lizzie said:
Well, it depends on whether you think that you are only the physical. Sure, there's a body that can be seen, touched, heard, etc, but there's also the part of you (mind) which isn't something that can be proven to exist. Do you identify more with mind, heart, spiritual aspects, etc, or with the physical body. Some of the eastern religions imply that life is an illusion, and that the "real" part of the human is what remains after all else is stripped away. It's an interesting concept.
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It doesn't matter whether you are "only the physical" or not. You may be even not a singular being - a sentient little finger of a deity, or whatever. But the statement is still absolutely, objectively true: You exist. Otherwise we would not have this conversation. (Notice: It is, strictly speaking, not objectively true on the same level of certainty that I do exist; I may be a figment of your imagination)
 
MaggieD said:
I voted that truth is objective. As I tried to formulate an answer, I realized I'm wrong. The truth is subjective. The truth as I perceive it can be wrong.
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Truth can never be wrong - people can be.

A subjective truth defines hypocrisy.

The whole basis of "Whole Language" is subjective truth.

Whole language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

When truth is subjective - nothing has any meaning and there is no "truth" just opinions.
 
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