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If I were God - philosophical rant

Rainman05

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If I were God, I would not let any evil happen in the world. I would destroy it and have only good things in the world. Everybody would be living in Paradise.

If I were God, I would have saved that child from suffering or from dying or from a car crash.

If I were God, I would have cured that child.

If I were God, I would have never let malaria and HIV and whatever exist.

If I were God, I wouldn't let people starve.

If I were God, I would have made religious texts a bit more clear and stopped terrorists and evil people from abusing religion for power.

If I were God, I would have <insert whatever holier than thou stupid sh*t you would have done if you were an omnipotent being>


You may have recognized something like that. It's the most common form of expression of atheists worldwide, anti-religious zealots or anyone really who wants to show that he has a moral conscience... or that he is deep or something really. I find that to be the stupidest form of putting a problem about religion, any religion really. And it is used by idiots like Dawkins to put the religious people in their corner. Why does God allow this or that to happen? That's a sign that he doesn't exist and all he does is cower behind a verse saying that "God works in mysterious ways".

Ok. Lets get a few things straight. You, as a human being, are and despite your best efforts, will always be, a pathetic, weak, stupid creature that is destined to wander on this world as long as he isn't the subject of a horrific disease or an accident, to waddle about... and some of us, humans, will end up somewhere. most of us... won't. Most of us are the walking, talking nobodys'. Granted, today, more of us nobody's talk to other nobody's and sometimes to some somebody's than ever before, but that doesn't change anything. We're a bunch of powerless critters. And no matter how much power we get from our fellow men through artificial means, we are still powerless critters. Why? Because powerless critters have very little to no power to give in the first place. We empower politicians and leaders and bankers and movie stars to shape opinions and make laws and dictate interest rates... over us.

Sometimes, just sometimes, we manage to pull one out of our collective asses and actually do something worthwhile in the world that makes life significantly better and even make a significant mark in the world. But we didn't do nothing really. I mean, compared to the vastness of the universe and all there is out there, we're just doing the equivalent of a circle jerk to one another. We don't know what real power is. We just give it different interpretations. To declare war... to know how to build a spaceship... to know something... or be able to dictate something. Sometimes, we build machines for the purpose of defying natural law, and that's ok. We should do that. That's really important to us so that we can circle jerk some more.

But compare that to being OMNIPOTENT. Compare that to being able to do whatever you want to do. Think of the wildest thing you can. Create a new sun. Ah... abolish gravity. Bring back the dead and not in the Walking Dead sort of thing. Hell, reshape planets. Reshape everything. I can't even think of sufficient things that omnipotence can bring. And you, as a pathetic human being with no real power have the audacity to say: if I were God, I would do that... or that...

I mean really. How far is your head up your ass? First off, you can't even think differently than a human being. You don't even know another plane of reasoning. We don't understand Genius people, people whose brains are wired so amazingly that they can think things we don't... and yet you think you have the right to demand that if you were more than that... more than we have ever experienced, you would cure AIDS. That would be your accomplishment. Go piss on yourself you bloody asshole. Your wish should be: If I had a bit more willpower to get off my lazy ass and go jogging...
If I had a bit more intelligence to be able to learn things faster and get a better job...
If I had a bit more charm to actually be interesting to other people.
If I had a bit more musical talent so I could sign a nice song instead of paining people.
If I had <anything that is actually achievable if you put your mind to it and want it>

Not, If I were God. Don't you think you're overstepping your boundaries a bit? You don't know what omnipotence or power is. You don't know how such a being would think. We haven't even met a different bloody intelligent species from another planet. We don't know jack except our circlejerk ignorance and most of us, don't even know everything about our own human condition, and yet, we think we should be more than just human.

I submit to you, I am no better, but at least I don't try to check-mate people with absurdities.
 
We're all god, be the change.
 
"If 'ifs' and 'buts' were candy and nuts, oh what a party we'd have."
 
If I were God, there'd be tits on everything.

This is why men don't have the power of God, they don't understand the consequences.

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Even the tits on the money with tits would have tits, that's how awesome I'd be as God.

And the money wouldnt have vaginas, because we all know vaginas eat money, so we can't put those two together. It's simple logic.
 
If I were god, you'd all be ****ed. And not in a good way either...well maybe save the hottest women.
 
I would make all the waters of the Earth turn into alcoholic beverages, and all the women attractive. I would also contract the size of the universe to incorporate only the Earth, so that less people would feel infinitesimal and insignificant.
 
I would make all the waters of the Earth turn into alcoholic beverages, and all the women attractive. I would also contract the size of the universe to incorporate only the Earth, so that less people would feel infinitesimal and insignificant.

I'll vote for ya.
 
If I were God, I would not let any evil happen in the world. I would destroy it and have only good things in the world. Everybody would be living in Paradise.

If I were God, I would have saved that child from suffering or from dying or from a car crash.

If I were God, I would have cured that child.

If I were God, I would have never let malaria and HIV and whatever exist.

If I were God, I wouldn't let people starve.

If I were God, I would have made religious texts a bit more clear and stopped terrorists and evil people from abusing religion for power.

If I were God, I would have <insert whatever holier than thou stupid sh*t you would have done if you were an omnipotent being>


You may have recognized something like that. It's the most common form of expression of atheists worldwide, anti-religious zealots or anyone really who wants to show that he has a moral conscience... or that he is deep or something really. I find that to be the stupidest form of putting a problem about religion, any religion really. And it is used by idiots like Dawkins to put the religious people in their corner. Why does God allow this or that to happen? That's a sign that he doesn't exist and all he does is cower behind a verse saying that "God works in mysterious ways".

Ok. Lets get a few things straight. You, as a human being, are and despite your best efforts, will always be, a pathetic, weak, stupid creature that is destined to wander on this world as long as he isn't the subject of a horrific disease or an accident, to waddle about... and some of us, humans, will end up somewhere. most of us... won't. Most of us are the walking, talking nobodys'. Granted, today, more of us nobody's talk to other nobody's and sometimes to some somebody's than ever before, but that doesn't change anything. We're a bunch of powerless critters. And no matter how much power we get from our fellow men through artificial means, we are still powerless critters. Why? Because powerless critters have very little to no power to give in the first place. We empower politicians and leaders and bankers and movie stars to shape opinions and make laws and dictate interest rates... over us.

Sometimes, just sometimes, we manage to pull one out of our collective asses and actually do something worthwhile in the world that makes life significantly better and even make a significant mark in the world. But we didn't do nothing really. I mean, compared to the vastness of the universe and all there is out there, we're just doing the equivalent of a circle jerk to one another. We don't know what real power is. We just give it different interpretations. To declare war... to know how to build a spaceship... to know something... or be able to dictate something. Sometimes, we build machines for the purpose of defying natural law, and that's ok. We should do that. That's really important to us so that we can circle jerk some more.

But compare that to being OMNIPOTENT. Compare that to being able to do whatever you want to do. Think of the wildest thing you can. Create a new sun. Ah... abolish gravity. Bring back the dead and not in the Walking Dead sort of thing. Hell, reshape planets. Reshape everything. I can't even think of sufficient things that omnipotence can bring. And you, as a pathetic human being with no real power have the audacity to say: if I were God, I would do that... or that...

I mean really. How far is your head up your ass? First off, you can't even think differently than a human being. You don't even know another plane of reasoning. We don't understand Genius people, people whose brains are wired so amazingly that they can think things we don't... and yet you think you have the right to demand that if you were more than that... more than we have ever experienced, you would cure AIDS. That would be your accomplishment. Go piss on yourself you bloody asshole. Your wish should be: If I had a bit more willpower to get off my lazy ass and go jogging...
If I had a bit more intelligence to be able to learn things faster and get a better job...
If I had a bit more charm to actually be interesting to other people.
If I had a bit more musical talent so I could sign a nice song instead of paining people.
If I had <anything that is actually achievable if you put your mind to it and want it>

Not, If I were God. Don't you think you're overstepping your boundaries a bit? You don't know what omnipotence or power is. You don't know how such a being would think. We haven't even met a different bloody intelligent species from another planet. We don't know jack except our circlejerk ignorance and most of us, don't even know everything about our own human condition, and yet, we think we should be more than just human.

I submit to you, I am no better, but at least I don't try to check-mate people with absurdities.

I think the problem is that many people are anthropomorphizing God, Christians and atheists alike. And in fact, many holy scriptures attach human attributes to God, to different degrees -- in the OT, you can read God is jalous, angry and so on. In the NT you read God is loving. And so on. That's why in popular belief over the centuries, you got an athropomorphized image of God: I.e. that generous old man with a long beard sitting on a cloud, or anything to that extent. That's how many Christians still teach their kids about God, and that's what many atheist zealots are (rightfully) attacking (I'd tell them: The God you don't believe in, I don't believe in either).

But I believe God is a principle. Human attributes we attach to God are just analogies to give us means at the hand to get some understanding of God at all. But it's not the truth. God is entirely transcendent, and the comprehended (creation) can never understand the compreheding (God). Maybe God is just a manner of thinking.
 
I think the problem is that many people are anthropomorphizing God, Christians and atheists alike. And in fact, many holy scriptures attach human attributes to God, to different degrees -- in the OT, you can read God is jalous, angry and so on. In the NT you read God is loving. And so on. That's why in popular belief over the centuries, you got an athropomorphized image of God: I.e. that generous old man with a long beard sitting on a cloud, or anything to that extent. That's how many Christians still teach their kids about God, and that's what many atheist zealots are (rightfully) attacking (I'd tell them: The God you don't believe in, I don't believe in either).

But I believe God is a principle. Human attributes we attach to God are just analogies to give us means at the hand to get some understanding of God at all. But it's not the truth. God is entirely transcendent, and the comprehended (creation) can never understand the compreheding (God). Maybe God is just a manner of thinking.

That's true. Our misunderstandings and much of the zealotry comes from considering that God is one of us. Just another bloke only with some kind of power and maybe a master plan.

I wasn't taught that way and thus, I never really understood those kinds of things like: God hates fags; or God doesn't love X or Y or something. Or God wants you to clean your dishes. Something... seems rather silly.
 
<snip>

You may have recognized something like that. It's the most common form of expression of atheists worldwide, anti-religious zealots or anyone really who wants to show that he has a moral conscience... or that he is deep or something really. I find that to be the stupidest form of putting a problem about religion, any religion really. And it is used by idiots like Dawkins to put the religious people in their corner. Why does God allow this or that to happen? That's a sign that he doesn't exist and all he does is cower behind a verse saying that "God works in mysterious ways".

<snip>
Where does Dawkins use that as part of his argument? You'll have to provide references because I haven't seen it.
 
I think the problem is that many people are anthropomorphizing God, Christians and atheists alike. And in fact, many holy scriptures attach human attributes to God, to different degrees -- in the OT, you can read God is jalous, angry and so on. In the NT you read God is loving. And so on. That's why in popular belief over the centuries, you got an athropomorphized image of God:

Well, that and that little bit in Genesis 1:27

So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.

Though I am sure this is another case where the Bible doesn't actually mean what it says. ;)
 
I’m not an atheist because evil exists, I am an atheist because I have yet to be presented sufficient evidence that a god or gods exists.

That said, the presence of what we call evil wouldn’t be evidence their isn’t a god. Rainman could be right. Maybe what we perceive to be evil isn’t evil in the eyes of God (for the sake of this discussion I am referring to the Abrahamic god.) Sure, most of us think raping and mutilating children is evil. But that just might be our puny little human minds failing to grasp the bigger picture. Maybe if we knew as much as God knows we would think that rape and dismemberment of toddlers was just fine and dandy. How arrogant of us to think the world would be better off without such things.
 
Well, that and that little bit in Genesis 1:27



Though I am sure this is another case where the Bible doesn't actually mean what it says. ;)

I don't believe the Bible should be considered the literal word of God. It's a document about the development of man's understanding and image of God. These scriptures were the best possible view of God man was capable of understanding when it was written. Today, we're further.
 
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