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The God Fearing or the God-less.....

MMC

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Who would people rather listen to, Those that fear God and are God-fearing People.....Or those that fear none and are the God-less? Freestyle Debate.....anything associated with the God-Fearing and or God-less can be used when it concerns those that listen or would or wouldn't.
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It really depends on the qualities that God-fearing brings out in the individual. Is it that they have a general reverence for life and their fellow man, or is it that they are fearful of anything that may be perceived as earning the wrath of God? If the former, then that is what I prefer. I personally hate the idea of placing any trust in the superiority of a single individual human, or a group of them, as humans are so flawed.
 
It doesn't matter to me where someone derives their ethics, I'll judge based on end-product.
 
Huh?..
 
Godless.
 
Should anyone be praying to, worshiping, promoting, and supporting a "god" they fear?

Generally speaking, those who are reacting, acting, and making choices based on fear are the ones who I'd probably not want to be listening to.
 
The Godless (like your humble servant) have to do much more work, to stay moral and trustworthy. Some of us are up to the task, some are not.

The God-fearing coast comfortably in the times when their arbitrary taboos do not clash with reality all too obviously - and then there's a systemic breakdown, and precious few are still able to cling to the moral values based on nothing but the authority of the Imaginary Friend.

You decide who would you trust better, in a long term.
 
Cyrylek said:
The Godless (like your humble servant) have to do much more work, to stay moral and trustworthy. Some of us are up to the task, some are not.

The God-fearing coast comfortably in the times when their arbitrary taboos do not clash with reality all too obviously - and then there's a systemic breakdown, and precious few are still able to cling to the moral values based on nothing but the authority of the Imaginary Friend.

You decide who would you trust better, in a long term.
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What about the way Liz described.....with those for a reverence for life. Law and Order?
 
I would rather listen to people I know for a long time and trust. I don't trust anyone I don't know well. It doesn't matter what religion they are or who or what they fear unless its me. And I'm not a particularly scary individual so if someone fears me off the get-go, I distrust them completely.

People are usually stupid and full of crap regardless of religion or lack of religion. So trusting one side right off the get go seems stupid and I'm not.
 
Matthew 6:5 got it right:
"When you pray, don't be like the hypocrites who love to pray publicly on street corners and in the synagogues where everyone can see them. I tell you the truth, that is all the reward they will ever get.
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Cyrylek said:
The Godless (like your humble servant) have to do much more work, to stay moral and trustworthy.
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Please explain.

Why is it "more work" to be moral and trustworthy if you don't follow a religion and/or don't believe in a specific god?
 
MMC said:
Who would people rather listen to, Those that fear God and are God-fearing People.....Or those that fear none and are the God-less? Freestyle Debate.....anything associated with the God-Fearing and or God-less can be used when it concerns those that listen or would or wouldn't.
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Since my daily routine and interactions with other people have nothing to do with God or god or godlike entities, whether or not a person fears or doesn't fear such is irrelevant to me. I do not, however, abide preachy people whether they be religious or otherwise.
 
Dragonfly said:
Please explain.

Why is it "more work" to be moral and trustworthy if you don't follow a religion and/or don't believe in a specific god?
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I can't speak for Cyrylek, but I believe the sentiment relates to those who believe in God/god have it easier because in most religions sin is forgiven. Being a non-practicing Catholic, I can assure you that some of the most deceitful, dishonest, evil, etc. people on the planet are Catholics because they feel they can do anything they want and walk into the confessional and receive absolution for their sins.
 
CanadaJohn said:
I can't speak for Cyrylek, but I believe the sentiment relates to those who believe in God/god have it easier because in most religions sin is forgiven. Being a non-practicing Catholic, I can assure you that some of the most deceitful, dishonest, evil, etc. people on the planet are Catholics because they feel they can do anything they want and walk into the confessional and receive absolution for their sins.
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So a religious person might feel as though they have a "get out of jail free card"?
 
Okay think about this in a way as to if one was taken prisoner for something. Kidnappers etc etc. Would you rather have a person to interact with that is God fearing or one that is god-less?
 
Dragonfly said:
Please explain.

Why is it "more work" to be moral and trustworthy if you don't follow a religion and/or don't believe in a specific god?
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Because you don't have ready answers for all situations anymore. You don't just "do what He says". You actually have to THINK: If I do this - do I hurt other people? If I do NOT do that - do I deprive other people of some vital opportunities? Etc, etc.
 
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Cyrylek said:
Because you don't have ready answers for all situations anymore. You don't just "do what He says". You actually have to THINK: If I do this - do I hurt other people? If I do NOT do that - do I deprive other people of some vital opportunities? Etc, etc.
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Right and wrong isn't so hard to figure out, and one certainly does not need religion to figure that out.

Religion does not equal moral & trustworthy.

Just look at the Catholic Church for that lesson... :lamo:2wave::mrgreen:
 
MMC said:
Those that fear God ...
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People fearing a non existent imaginary object are neurotics and may even be paranoid.

In any case, they need mental health help for the mental sickness they live with.
 
MMC said:
Okay think about this in a way as to if one was taken prisoner for something. Kidnappers etc etc. Would you rather have a person to interact with that is God fearing or one that is god-less?
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God fearing, because I hate echo chambers.
 
Dragonfly said:
Should anyone be praying to, worshiping, promoting, and supporting a "god" they fear?

Generally speaking, those who are reacting, acting, and making choices based on fear are the ones who I'd probably not want to be listening to.
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I'm not sure you quite understand "fear" in its Biblical connotation. :shrug:
 
Paralogic said:
People fearing a non existent imaginary object are neurotics and may even be paranoid.

In any case, they need mental health help for the mental sickness they live with.
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So, the majority of people on planet Earth are just simply.....mentally deranged.......and "in need of mental health"? :lol:
 
FluffyNinja said:
So, the majority of people on planet Earth are just simply.....mentally deranged.......and "in need of mental health"? :lol:
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Yes.

In our times, belief in supernatural or imaginary objects shows either the lack of education or the preponderance of mental dysfunction.
 
Paralogic said:
Yes.

In our times, belief in supernatural or imaginary objects shows either the lack of education or the preponderance of mental dysfunction.
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Wow! okay then. :roll:

So, let me get this straight.....you're actually saying (believing) that your average, moderate, church-going, Christian here in America.......if evaluated objectively by clinical psychologists......would be diagnosed with a mental disorder?
You funny guy, you. :lol:
 
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