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    Re: Ask me anything about Marxism and Communism

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle Phoenix View Post
    To the best of my knowledge, I am the only person in this thread who has explicitly identified themselves as supporting communism as an ideology that killed 100 million people and therefore as a threat to the Constitution of the United States and the Bill of rights. So if you have a problem with communism- I suggest you direct it towards me as the responsible and guilty party.

    Do you have anything further you wish to add?
    This is an open forum. You can respond to his comments directly without having to beg for an audience.

    And no, you have not supported communism in any way by linking it to dictatorships that had nothing to do with communist philosophy.

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    Re: Ask me anything about Marxism and Communism

    Why is it cool communism killed 100 million people?

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    Re: Ask me anything about Marxism and Communism

    Quote Originally Posted by Thazgor View Post
    Why is it cool communism killed 100 million people?
    Its not cool really, but it is important.

    In 1997, a group of historians wrote “the black book of communism”. The book covered the full range of atrocities and crimes against humanity committed by communist states over the 20th century. This is how they came up with an estimate for the number of people killed.

    That’s how they came up with the total of 100 million victims. Its debatable on whether it is accurate as it is based on extrapolating data based on population growth that would have been anticipated but did not occur, such as in the event of famines which make up a lot of the total. It is also debatable to what extent an idea, or a group of states and their leaders, can be held directly responsible for those deaths. But it is certainly the most popular estimate of the number of victims, helped by the fact 100 million is an easy number to remember.

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    Re: Ask me anything about Marxism and Communism

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle Phoenix View Post
    Its not cool really, but it is important.

    In 1997, a group of historians wrote “the black book of communism”. The book covered the full range of atrocities and crimes against humanity committed by communist states over the 20th century. This is how they came up with an estimate for the number of people killed.

    That’s how they came up with the total of 100 million victims. Its debatable on whether it is accurate as it is based on extrapolating data based on population growth that would have been anticipated but did not occur, such as in the event of famines which make up a lot of the total. It is also debatable to what extent an idea, or a group of states and their leaders, can be held directly responsible for those deaths. But it is certainly the most popular estimate of the number of victims, helped by the fact 100 million is an easy number to remember.
    You mean debatable because of some lame excuse that the leaders did not personally murder all those people. Or do you actually have something akin to an intelligent observation.

    It certainly cannot be because of an extent of an idea as no idea in communism even comes close to suggesting murder of millions. Perhaps it could be an extent of the idea that a dictator can do as they please regardless of any philosophy they might give lip service to.

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    Re: Ask me anything about Marxism and Communism

    Quote Originally Posted by Thazgor View Post
    Why is it cool communism killed 100 million people?
    Why is it cool that trump killed 150000?

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    Re: Ask me anything about Marxism and Communism

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    The three co-founders of BLM.....

    Alicia Garza - Wikipedia

    Patrisse Cullors - Wikipedia

    Opal Tometi - Wikipedia

    None of the 3 are currently, or have ever been, Marxists.

    Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors described herself and fellow co-founder Alicia Garza as “trained Marxists”....

    “We actually do have an ideological frame[work],” Cullors said of her organization. “We are trained Marxists. We are super-versed on, sort of, ideological theories.”......

    Meanwhile, the national organization’s official platform, published in 2015, contained a specific call to “[disrupt] the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure.”.....

    For example, the official organization Black Lives Matter DC openly dedicates itself to “creating the conditions for Black Liberation through the abolition of systems and institutions of white supremacy, capitalism, patriarchy and colonialism.”

    Is Black Lives Matter Marxist? No and Yes. - Foundation for Economic Education

    Of course they are.

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