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I need to quit drinking

Novalis said:
If you have severe pain in the future, take Tapentadol, which is not very addictive.
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Thanks, ive never heard of that particular pain killer. I completely avoid opioid narcotic pain killers. Quite frankly, during the 4 wisdom tooth removal + complications that i went through, the 500mg Motrin pills were responsible for removing 80-90% of the physical pain, while the percodan was mostly just "bringing up my spirits". I kinda got the impression that the opioid euphoria was maybe considered part of the treatment for major pain. The percodan didnt work on its own in removing pain, but Motrin DID work on its on. Is Tepentadol an anti inflammatory, or just a pure pain killer?
 
beerftw said:
Well not really quit but scale it down to a few drinks a week.

Long story short for a while I have been scaling it back, I am not 21 no more, I can no longer pound down those beers without thinking about problems. My best buddy gets mad because everytime I visit it is nearly no beer or just na beer, because he acts like a man child when drinking and I decided not to feed his habit when he is nearing 40 years old with a family to feed and already lost one job from drinking(not m fault he was across the state on a job)

But long sory short i can dig na beer, I have grown used to the taste of beer to where I love it no matter the content. However there is a girl I met , her family was severe drunks, her daughters bioloical father is still a drunk, her father had to quit drinking from liver failure, you get the point. In the past I would have said whatever but lately I have been scaling it back due to what the doctors have been telling me, in the last week I have been having a beer or two tops per night, except tonight where I went hogwild.

Yes you can say I like her and care about her and her daughter, but I can say I also care about my health, and have been in the past fully able to remain sober if I needed to be responsible, but I feel I should not just stay sober just because needed, nor should I reduce it enough to save my liver(I have quite a while before my liver fails but he doctors keep reminding me where it is heading)



I would appreciate the support, help me be responsible, even with the tag beerftw I do need encouragement. Also do not think missing letters means I am drunk, my keyboard sucks I need to slam the G key for it to register, T is also crappy.
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If you're dealing directly with alcoholism, brother, I can understand that. I have immediate family members who have died from it and/or are crippled by it.

If you're just drinking less? OK, that's cool, too.

Brother, if you're publicly stating to us all that doctors have advised you on this issue?

You have a problem with alcohol. Period.

Do not be ashamed. If you need help, I'll mail you a better keyboard. I have seen this, for most of my life, given my family's genetics, and there's no replacement for giving up alcohol, period, and forever.

Take that first step.
 
ModerationNow! said:
I'd recommend being careful with standard, full-trip doses of LSD at ages over 40 or 50. Your mindset is different by then, and it may not end up being a fun experience. I dont know how micro-dosing would effect you. It depends on the person i guess.
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That's a tricky situation, and has to do with how well someone has come to grips with whatever (if any) childhood trauma they may have encountered.

LSD shouldn't be 'fun', per se.

It should be of the widest possible latitude. You don't get high. You see things more broadly.
 
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Novalis said:
The latest trend among cultured people is LSD micro-dosage. Albert Hoffmann and Ernst Jünger have held countless LSD sessions in the past, they have both lived to be over 100 years old. Micro-dosage will not be very harmful.

Alcohol is only for monkeys.
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OK, with LSD, there is no 'micro-dosage'. Period.

One either trips or one does not. There is the full effect, or there is nothing. Period. And that full effect can be a billion different things to a billion different people.

That usually kicks in at a standard dosage of 100 MCG/d. Going more high-test can amplify results.

If you've ever taken it, you'll know exactly what I'm referencing.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
If you're dealing directly with alcoholism, brother, I can understand that. I have immediate family members who have died from it and/or are crippled by it.

If you're just drinking less? OK, that's cool, too.

Brother, if you're publicly stating to us all that doctors have advised you on this issue?

You have a problem with alcohol. Period.

Do not be ashamed. If you need help, I'll mail you a better keyboard. I have seen this, for most of my life, given my family's genetics, and there's no replacement for giving up alcohol, period, and forever.

Take that first step.
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I Do not always trust the doctors on the issue, the va considers everything extreme, they said my triglycerides were too high, but everything else in my liver checked normal, of course they schedule every lab test within a day or two after major drinking holiday, like new years, 4th of july etc, I almost think they do it on purpose to get kickacks to dish out more pills.

I figured out already drinking throws off triglycerides even if fasting the night before, andit often takes days or up to a week of no drinking beforehand for it to not throw off a blood test, yet they va here likes to intentionally schedule blood tests a day or two after the biggest drinking holidays
 
I've avoided alcohol for some time now.


It was too expensive. That was the biggest factor.

Was making beer on my own for a while, but it's a lot of effort. I was making it by the gallon, a small batch. I gave that up too.


I don't miss it.
 
beerftw said:
I do not think I will quit completely but I do not wish to just get drunk all the time either, I want it to be a treat rather than a necessity. Lower content beers might help but really I just need to be sober 5-6 days a week and make drinking a treat more than anything.
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I know someone who swore by ice cream as a substitute when she first quit drinking. She craved sweets.
 
Fledermaus said:
I sabotaged Poker night long ago.

A bunch of Marines drinking beer. I would drink from a glass. Every other "beer" was ginger ale. The more the night went on the better it got for me. By morning I had cleaned up and was literally the last man standing.

;)
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A coworker of mine does half tomato juice, half beer when it's going to be a long night. It works, too, if you like tomato juice.
 
beerftw said:
I Do not always trust the doctors on the issue, the va considers everything extreme, they said my triglycerides were too high, but everything else in my liver checked normal, of course they schedule every lab test within a day or two after major drinking holiday, like new years, 4th of july etc, I almost think they do it on purpose to get kickacks to dish out more pills.

I figured out already drinking throws off triglycerides even if fasting the night before, andit often takes days or up to a week of no drinking beforehand for it to not throw off a blood test, yet they va here likes to intentionally schedule blood tests a day or two after the biggest drinking holidays
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There is no way to make this more clear: If you bring up drinking as a problem, it's a problem. No issues of proteins or enzymes.

No fasting need apply. The very idea that you'd mention not drinking for a week? That there are 'drinking holidays'?

Being sober is its own reward, brother. I can't lead you there, but I can show you about the place once you finally make that choice.

Until then?

Peace.
 
ModerationNow! said:
Thanks, ive never heard of that particular pain killer. I completely avoid opioid narcotic pain killers. Quite frankly, during the 4 wisdom tooth removal + complications that i went through, the 500mg Motrin pills were responsible for removing 80-90% of the physical pain, while the percodan was mostly just "bringing up my spirits". I kinda got the impression that the opioid euphoria was maybe considered part of the treatment for major pain. The percodan didnt work on its own in removing pain, but Motrin DID work on its on. Is Tepentadol an anti inflammatory, or just a pure pain killer?
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Controlled substance
High risk for addiction and dependence. Can cause respiratory distress and death when taken in high doses or when combined with other substances, especially alcohol.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
There is no way to make this more clear: If you bring up drinking as a problem, it's a problem. No issues of proteins or enzymes.

No fasting need apply. The very idea that you'd mention not drinking for a week? That there are 'drinking holidays'?

Being sober is its own reward, brother. I can't lead you there, but I can show you about the place once you finally make that choice.

Until then?

Peace.
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I agree being sober is it's own reward, my point there though was the va and their terrible tests, a nurse in the va had to point it how to me, how triglycerides are heavily affected by liquor more than just one day, and how if they thought there was an issue they should have said stop drinking a week prior to get an accurate result, the va does not even like mentioning such, which makes me wonder how many people got prescribed insulin who were not diabetic just due to high triglycerides and how poorly they coordinate their blood tests.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
There is no way to make this more clear: If you bring up drinking as a problem, it's a problem. No issues of proteins or enzymes..................~
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Can't say it any clearer than this.
 
beerftw said:
I agree being sober is it's own reward, my point there though was the va and their terrible tests, a nurse in the va had to point it how to me, how triglycerides are heavily affected by liquor more than just one day, and how if they thought there was an issue they should have said stop drinking a week prior to get an accurate result, the va does not even like mentioning such, which makes me wonder how many people got prescribed insulin who were not diabetic just due to high triglycerides and how poorly they coordinate their blood tests.
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Digressing is just another manifestation of denial.

I can say this less harshly so as not to offend, yet that fact will remain standing.
 
beerftw said:
I do not think I will quit completely but I do not wish to just get drunk all the time either, I want it to be a treat rather than a necessity. Lower content beers might help but eally I just need to be sober 5-6 days a week and make drinking a treat more than anything.
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If you have an addictive personality and are drinking enough to concern you, Cutting back might be an option. For some it's all or nothing.
 
beerftw said:
Well not really quit but scale it down to a few drinks a week.

Long story short for a while I have been scaling it back, I am not 21 no more, I can no longer pound down those beers without thinking about problems. My best buddy gets mad because everytime I visit it is nearly no beer or just na beer, because he acts like a man child when drinking and I decided not to feed his habit when he is nearing 40 years old with a family to feed and already lost one job from drinking(not m fault he was across the state on a job)

But long sory short i can dig na beer, I have grown used to the taste of beer to where I love it no matter the content. However there is a girl I met , her family was severe drunks, her daughters bioloical father is still a drunk, her father had to quit drinking from liver failure, you get the point. In the past I would have said whatever but lately I have been scaling it back due to what the doctors have been telling me, in the last week I have been having a beer or two tops per night, except tonight where I went hogwild.

Yes you can say I like her and care about her and her daughter, but I can say I also care about my health, and have been in the past fully able to remain sober if I needed to be responsible, but I feel I should not just stay sober just because needed, nor should I reduce it enough to save my liver(I have quite a while before my liver fails but he doctors keep reminding me where it is heading)



I would appreciate the support, help me be responsible, even with the tag beerftw I do need encouragement. Also do not think missing letters means I am drunk, my keyboard sucks I need to slam the G key for it to register, T is also crappy.
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I just kind of grew out of drinking. It came about gradually. First I stopped going out for drinks with friends after work. Then, I stopped drinking at home or even when out for dinner with the wife. After that, all that was left were the drinks consumed and drunks I'd put on while on business and staying in hotels. Eventually I tired of that too.

So, I guess what I am saying is that there is always the likelihood that this is what you are experiencing. You're just past that stage in life where getting drunk is fun.
 
W,C. Fields summed it up well
"A woman drove me to drink and I didn't even have the decency to thank her.
 
mike2810 said:
W,C. Fields summed it up well
"A woman drove me to drink and I didn't even have the decency to thank her.
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Fields used to travel with a steamer trunk full of his favorites...
 
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