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    Re: Drunk purchases gone too far!!!!!

    I had way too many beers at the 19th hole at my home golf course with a quite few buddies of the men's golf association.

    One of the guys sold me 3 dozen Titleist Pro-V1's for for $30.00 per dozen. Awsome Deal ....right?! (normal retail was $48.00)

    3 days later I realized that I had left my locker open and he took them to set up the prank.
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    Re: Drunk purchases gone too far!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I had no idea they had become that valuable. My 50-70 is in good condition (not excellent), completely usable and I have 100 rounds new ammo for it (huge cartridges and bullets). I had the weak ejection thin steel strip replaced so it fires as good as new because the bore is good. My 1865 is the "First Allin", with the 1866 50-70 the "Second Allin." Most 50-70s were cut down in length or later just scrapped.

    I bought mine many years ago and was told it is extremely rare in that it appears to have been an experimental transition rifle - stamped 1865 but in 50-70, when the 1865 was in 58-70. He told to "hang onto this as it is rare. The barrel was sleeved down to 50-70 for transitional testing" and why nearly no trapdoor bayonet will fit it. That was his claim anyway. I do know it is 50-70 (not 58-70), but that a 50-70 bayonet has too small a diameter for the barrel, requiring a 58 caliber bayonet found on the 58 caliber musket, but requiring a modest change. So the exterior diameter of the barrel is the same as a 58 caliber, but the bore is 50 caliber.

    Personally, I think the Martini–Henry .577/450 was a vastly superior rifle and I have a Mark 1 first model (what was used in the Zulu wars). However, the original ammo casing for the Martini–Henry was crap. I have the bayonet and ammo for it too - the superior sword bayonet, meaning for mid ranking officers. Regular troops got a shovel bayonet. The ranking officer had a pistol and sword. The theory was that the sword is for giving direction and shows authority, so if the ranking officer was killed, the next ranking officer was to remove his sword bayonet and use it for direction and to show authority. Rank was a huge deal in the British military back then.
    The 50-70 is worth more in good shape than the 45-70, however I have seen many 50-70s go cheap because they were pitted and rusted beyond anything but a collectors item.

    In terms of value in the 1970's they were probably still digging out originals from old stock, the us last issued the 1873/1884 in ww1 to militias, and how long they stayed in stock is a mystery but likely the reason they stayed cheap. I imagine by the 70's the govt was clearing out the last of the stockpiles of them they had, many hit the market and got sporterized. These guns are still common enough you can buy an original but not common enough anymore to be cheap.

    But I noticed price increases on old staturday night specials like h&r and iver johnson, guns that a decade ago even models from the 1880's went for 40-60 bucks at pawn shops, now they want 180-250 for a poor one and much more for one in nice shape, it is just supply and demand, supply dried up and demand exceeded it.
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    Re: Drunk purchases gone too far!!!!!

    Drunk purchase update, got the rifle, pulled out so much rust to find the bore was surprisingly shiny with only a tiny ring of pitting, not bad for a rifle over 100 years old. The barrel has only a tiny amount of bluing left on the barrel but it has a near perfect browning.

    The bad, the firing pin was siezed and broken, had to order on of those, the thumb latch spring was also missing. The gun itself has a reciever from 1886, hammer and trigger from 1873 and stock dated 1884. The door on the trapdoor reciever has 1884 model stamped on it, which the army did not do until 1887 as 1884-86 model 1884's were not marked and the proper 1884 model was not built until late 1885. So it is unknown if this was a bannerman parts gun made of surplus parts the army sold, or arsenal repairs as the army then would often merge broken rifles to make functioning ones, springfield did as well but they stamped a star by the serial number to show if it was factory rebuilt with other rifle parts. Looking at how it does not have the usual bannerman rigging to make it work my guess would be that it was arsenal repaired at some point and possibly went through further repairs after it's army service.

    Either way I love these guns so drunk me probably said go for it, plus 45-70 is a boss round, it has the knockout power to eradicate the american bison, yet does not tear up smaller game up high velocity rounds do. I plan to upload pictures in a little bit.
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    Re: Drunk purchases gone too far!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    If it's a vintage one that's pretty cool. If it's a replica that's still cool but not COOL.

    The Springfield trapdoor lost some of its cachet after Custer's men were carrying them at the Little Bighorn
    It should've been the US army cavalry who should've lost their cachet as a result of that battle, not the trapdoor Springfield. Custer's horrible tactics were the reason they were massacred. Repeating rifles were available by that time, and since the cavalry didn't operate as stationary, long range snipers, they didn't need that particular rifle. What they needed was what the Indians had, repeating rifles! From the closer ranges that cavalry typically engage from, either the .44 rim fire or the .56-56 of the 1860 or 1866 Winchesters or Spencer lever action carbines would've been a much more obvious choice to arm them with.

    The Trapdoor was acceptable in the late 1860s as an infantry rifle for firing at ranges over 100 yards. But they would've been outclassed by any single shot rifle of the period, using them the way they did.
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    Do strippers count?
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    Re: Drunk purchases gone too far!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    Anyone ever done a dumbass drunk purchase over the internet?

    I did one literally yesterday, bought a 1873 trapdoor springfield in armory condition, why because I was drunk. Granted I always wanted such a magnificent piece of american history, and I technically have the money for it, I however like to save my money and stay well above what I need between paychecks. This was a real drunk off my ass oh that looks cool purchase, so question is who else has done this, I know many will deny but have done the same!
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    Re: Drunk purchases gone too far!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Do strippers count?
    is there ever money thrown at strippers you did not regret later?
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    Re: Drunk purchases gone too far!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    is there ever money thrown at strippers you did not regret later?
    Nope!
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