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Most Cis People Are Unwilling to Date Trans People According to This New Study | them.

According to this article, only 12% of all people would date a trans person. Of those only about 2%-3% are straight.
When transsexuals go for gender reassignment surgery - what is the expectation for future dating life? Do you expect to date someone who is straight? Or do you expect a homosexual or another trans person?

I remember reading somewhere in the past that gender reassignment is a long and painful process, not something that is truly reversible.
So, what’s the expectation going into it?

PS - I’m not trying to start a political debate. I’m just being curious. No disrespect to anyone.

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thedimon said:
Most Cis People Are Unwilling to Date Trans People According to This New Study | them.

According to this article, only 12% of all people would date a trans person. Of those only about 2%-3% are straight.
When transsexuals go for gender reassignment surgery - what is the expectation for future dating life? Do you expect to date someone who is straight? Or do you expect a homosexual or another trans person?

I remember reading somewhere in the past that gender reassignment is a long and painful process, not something that is truly reversible.
So, what’s the expectation going into it?

PS - I’m not trying to start a political debate. I’m just being curious. No disrespect to anyone.

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Most of these people have never even met a trans person before. It's like asking them if they would date an alien. How would they know until they find one?
 
Irredentist said:
Most of these people have never even met a trans person before. It's like asking them if they would date an alien. How would they know until they find one?
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Dating and romantic relationship is more than just about appearance. Do you think that many straight people would be OK to French kiss someone who used to be their own gender?


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thedimon said:
Dating and romantic relationship is more than just about appearance. Do you think that many straight people would be OK to French kiss someone who used to be their own gender?
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Would you?

Transexual:

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thedimon said:
Dating and romantic relationship is more than just about appearance. Do you think that many straight people would be OK to French kiss someone who used to be their own gender?


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Depends on the person, how they gonna know until they try?
 
dave8383 said:
Would you?

Transexual:

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No amount of cosmetic surgery is going to change basic biology.

Let me preface my remarks with a clear statement of my position.

I have no problem with anyone who wishes to effect physical changes to their bodies, as I believe a person has an absolute right to control their own bodies.

Whether it is piercings, tatoos, radical cosmetic surgery (nee the cat person depicted here below), even sex change operations; what one chooses to do to their own bodies is their business.

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Now as to your unspoken question, phrased as "a challenge," people can often tell there is something "different."

This because of any combination of biological clues including but not limited to bone structure, voice tones, body mass, and pheromones. Now one might not realize right away, depending on how convincing the transsexual is. But even if this temporary misperception occurs, in the final analysis, either the male or female object of desire will eventually find out that they cannot physically have children with the transsexual.

My point is that deception of transition in hopes that someone will fall in love with the image and overcome any reservations in time, is unfair to the non-trans object of desire.

In contrast with gay and lesbian relationships, at least both partners know from the start their limitations when it comes to physical interactions and commitments to marriage and family. They are openly seeking relations with the same sex. If they get serious enough to commit to a relationship, they are well-prepared to discuss options.

This is not always the case in a Transsexual contact, as the Trans honestly believe they ARE the sex they desire to change to, so many don't see why they should let someone they desire know. Naturally they want to be accepted for the sex they prefer.

IMO that is selfish, because it can typically lead to very bad situations involving anger, regret, frustration, and even violence.

So while I support any person's right to do with their own bodies what they will, IMO anyone who goes through such physical transition should be very honest and straightforward when coming to the point of seeking to date someone. Give that person the same option of choice that you, as a trans person, are asking for. At least you will know from the start that the person is willing to see how it could go.
 
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No amount of cosmetic surgery is going to change basic biology.

Let me preface my remarks with a clear statement of my position.

I have no problem with anyone who wishes to effect physical changes to their bodies, as I believe a person has an absolute right to control their own bodies.

Whether it is piercings, tatoos, radical cosmetic surgery (nee the cat person depicted here below), even sex change operations; what one chooses to do to their own bodies is their business.

View attachment 67270971

Now as to your unspoken question, phrased as "a challenge," people can often tell there is something "different."

This because of any combination of biological clues including but not limited to bone structure, voice tones, body mass, and pheromones. Now one might not realize right away, depending on how convincing the transsexual is. But even if this temporary misperception occurs, in the final analysis, either the male or female object of desire will eventually find out that they cannot physically have children with the transsexual.

My point is that deception of transition in hopes that someone will fall in love with the image and overcome any reservations in time, is unfair to the non-trans object of desire.

In contrast with gay and lesbian relationships, at least both partners know from the start their limitations when it comes to physical interactions and commitments to marriage and family. They are openly seeking relations with the same sex. If they get serious enough to commit to a relationship, they are well-prepared to discuss options.

This is not always the case in a Transsexual contact, as the Trans honestly believe they ARE the sex they desire to change to, so many don't see why they should let someone they desire know. Naturally they want to be accepted for the sex they prefer.

IMO that is selfish, because it can typically lead to very bad situations involving anger, regret, frustration, and even violence.

So while I support any person's right to do with their own bodies what they will, IMO anyone who goes through such physical transition should be very honest and straightforward when coming to the point of seeking to date someone. Give that person the same option of choice that you, as a trans person, are asking for. At least you will know from the start that the person is willing to see how it could go.
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I really don't know but I doubt many transexual people walk around looking to permanently fool a potential loved one. As to when they decide to divulge? I suspect most of them pick an appropriate time.
 
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dave8383 said:
I really don't know but I doubt many transexual people walk around looking to permanently fool a potential loved one. As to when they decide to divulge? I suspect most of them pick an appropriate time.
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Are you saying it's okay to "temporarily fool a potential 'loved one'?" This might account for some of the violence targeting Transsexuals complained about and causing concern.

Now it is not my position that anyone in Transition needs to blare it out to the world.

No. My position is that if approached by, or approaching someone seeking a "potential loved one," then IMO upfront honesty is the best policy.

Otherwise such "temporary fooling" might lead the "temporarily fooled" to act out in one of those negative ways I mentioned upon finding out they were being fooled (essentially deceived) all along.
 
Captain Adverse said:
Are you saying it's okay to "temporarily fool a potential 'loved one'?" This might account for some of the violence targeting Transsexuals complained about and causing concern.

Now it is not my position that anyone in Transition needs to blare it out to the world.

No. My position is that if approached by, or approaching someone seeking a "potential loved one," then IMO upfront honesty is the best policy.

Otherwise such "temporary fooling" might lead the "temporarily fooled" to act out in one of those negative ways I mentioned upon finding out they were being fooled (essentially deceived) all along.
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Whatever. I don't have a dog in this fight other than to repeat, I'm sure most divulge at an appropriate time.
 
dave8383 said:
I don't, nor do I care. The point was made. :)
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You take a picture of a random girl from a Russian porn website and claim it’s a tranny. You can’t prove it, but apparently you made some point?
Thanks for contribution.


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thedimon said:
You take a picture of a random girl from a Russian porn website and claim it’s a tranny. You can’t prove it, but apparently you made some point?
Thanks for contribution.


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No, I took the picture from PIN and it had the caption "transexual" above it.

Anytime I can get you so exercised over nothing just let me know.
 
thedimon said:
Most Cis People Are Unwilling to Date Trans People According to This New Study | them.

According to this article, only 12% of all people would date a trans person. Of those only about 2%-3% are straight.
When transsexuals go for gender reassignment surgery - what is the expectation for future dating life? Do you expect to date someone who is straight? Or do you expect a homosexual or another trans person?

I remember reading somewhere in the past that gender reassignment is a long and painful process, not something that is truly reversible.
So, what’s the expectation going into it?

PS - I’m not trying to start a political debate. I’m just being curious. No disrespect to anyone.

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If I were single again, I'd let my potential dates know I'm a Transwoman, and if they choose to moveon, their loss.
 
Renae said:
If I were single again, I'd let my potential dates know I'm a Transwoman, and if they choose to moveon, their loss.
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Before you went through transformation - did you count on having straight partners or other transsexuals?
Is your partner a straight male?

Again, I’m just curious.


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thedimon said:
Before you went through transformation - did you count on having straight partners or other transsexuals?
Is your partner a straight male?

Again, I’m just curious.


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I'm married, and my wife knew when we first started dating this could maybe be the path our life took.
 
thedimon said:
Most Cis People Are Unwilling to Date Trans People According to This New Study | them.

According to this article, only 12% of all people would date a trans person. Of those only about 2%-3% are straight.
When transsexuals go for gender reassignment surgery - what is the expectation for future dating life? Do you expect to date someone who is straight? Or do you expect a homosexual or another trans person?

I remember reading somewhere in the past that gender reassignment is a long and painful process, not something that is truly reversible.
So, what’s the expectation going into it?

PS - I’m not trying to start a political debate. I’m just being curious. No disrespect to anyone.

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Irredentist said:
Most of these people have never even met a trans person before. It's like asking them if they would date an alien. How would they know until they find one?
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@ alien

That reminds me:

When I first came to England, I was an official Alien.
Then I got promoted to EEC citizen, later to EU citizen.

And now after Brexit I will become an Alien once again ....
 
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