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    Re: He many not be pretty, but he identifies as a she...

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    Only a knave who does not know who I am would think I have masters.
    I'm sure thst Trump with his unmatched wisdom would like to know.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Re: He many not be pretty, but he identifies as a she...

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    ROTFLOL...

    The individual has self identified as a transgender woman in multiple videos. That isn’t enough?

    AProudLefty mocks this individual, and because “she” looks like a man dressed as a woman... as most trans women do... instead of feminine as his examples of trans women... she isn’t a trans woman in his book.

    The Gender Polizei will not be pleased with you nor AProudLefty for ****ting on transgender people.

    You’re setting their movement backwards... and I surmise, had someone on the right done what you two have done... we’d be considered troglodytes.
    It would be a victory for freedom if anyone on the right acknowledged a person's gender identification. I said it's likely she does.

    You still haven't answered why you're obseessed with trans people.


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    Re: He many not be pretty, but he identifies as a she...

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post


    Leftist political movement[/B]
    Gender identity is not a leftist political movement.

    Zimmer, please elevate your discourse. You seem obsessed with this topic but only to weaponize it against who you deem are "leftists". In my opinion this is an important topic and you do a service to no-one (least of all your "conservative values") by behaving this way. What is your real point?

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    Re: He many not be pretty, but he identifies as a she...

    Quote Originally Posted by dairyair View Post
    Who really cares, here.
    Does anyone know this person, here.

    People who interact with this person may care, have a say. But in reality, the person making the claims should know.
    Yes. If a man wants to pretend to be a woman that's fine. But there is no requirement for those who don't know him to go along with the charade.

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    Re: He many not be pretty, but he identifies as a she...

    Quote Originally Posted by ProgressPlease View Post
    Gender identity is not a leftist political movement.

    Zimmer, please elevate your discourse. You seem obsessed with this topic but only to weaponize it against who you deem are "leftists". In my opinion this is an important topic and you do a service to no-one (least of all your "conservative values") by behaving this way. What is your real point?
    I’m not the one claiming a self identified trans woman is not a trans woman. Leftists here are... aggressively so. Y’know, those supposedly of the “woke” culture. Seems they forgot to set their alarms!!!

    I’m not the one here misinforming people as to what is demanded to become “X” gender. Again, that is Leftists. They deny all you have to do is wake up one morning and declare yourself so.

    I’m not the one who was mocking the trans woman in this thread. That’s been from the Left.

    I’m not the one in this thread implying the trans women cannot be one because she is masculine and ugly. That’s from the Left.

    I’m not the one In this thread who misinformed a poster here about “counseling”... which is deemed by “professionals” as being “extremely harmful”... That was a Leftist pushing the false information.

    So, don’t tell me to elevate my discourse when I’m not the one:

    1. Providing “extremely harmful” false information.

    2. Mocking trans women in this thread.

    3. Claiming a self identified trans woman is not one because “she” is not feminine.

    4. Claiming you trans “X” people cannot wake up one morning and identify as “X” gender.

    You have pointed your gun in the wrong direction... perhaps you should point it to those on the Left who have these beliefs.

    And tell me... why haven’t you taken on these troglodyte Leftists?

    As for it being political... let’s not bull**** the audience... it is political, just as the gay movement was political.
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    Re: He many not be pretty, but he identifies as a she...

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Leftists here are... “woke” culture

    That’s been from the Left.

    That’s from the Left.

    That was a Leftist pushing the false information.

    So, don’t tell me to elevate my discourse

    You have pointed you gun in the wrong direction... perhaps you should point it to those on the Left who have these beliefs.
    I'm not exactly sure what you mean by leftist but people on this thread do not represent a group, only their own views. There is much disagreement on this topic in all groups, including in the trans community.

    I am *asking* you to elevate your discourse. Unless you actually don't care about the topic but are simply looking to ridicule and fight. I'm new here but it seems there is a lot of that going on. It's unfortunate because this topic deserves good faith and nuanced discussion since it actually does effect society as a whole.

    I don't point guns in any direction and am willing to disagree with anyone, no matter what club they belong to.

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    Re: He many not be pretty, but he identifies as a she...

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It would be a victory for freedom if anyone on the right acknowledged a person's gender identification. I said it's likely she does.

    You still haven't answered why you're obseessed with trans people.
    You think you’re being clever, but your primary school ploy is transparent. Your using the word “obsessed” is an attempt to shut down discussion.

    Why are you so fearful of discussing trans people?

    I have no fear of discussing what transpires in our society... why are you so cowardly?

    Those on the right do acknowledge gender... every day.

    It has been interesting to watch you and AProudLefty deny an admitted trans woman as being one.

    I thought you people were “woke”.

    It’s also been interesting to watch the mocking of a trans woman from Leftists. I thought you people were the epitome of tolerance and openness.

    It’s been interesting to see a Leftist who denied a trans woman her identification, mocked her... then go on to falsely claim you cannot simply wake up one day and declare yourself so. And then provide “extremely harmful” information about counseling.

    This from the “enlightened” ones!!!

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    Re: He many not be pretty, but he identifies as a she...

    Quote Originally Posted by ProgressPlease View Post
    I'm not exactly sure what you mean by leftist but people on this thread do not represent a group, only their own views. There is much disagreement on this topic in all groups, including in the trans community.

    I am *asking* you to elevate your discourse. Unless you actually don't care about the topic but are simply looking to ridicule and fight. I'm new here but it seems there is a lot of that going on. It's unfortunate because this topic deserves good faith and nuanced discussion since it actually does effect society as a whole.

    I don't point guns in any direction and am willing to disagree with anyone, no matter what club they belong to.
    People here represent ideas, and the Left has been masterful in Balkanizing society. Group Identity is foundational to Leftism. It’s the Left’s thing, so spare me the bull****.

    My discourse is elevated.

    Why don’t you address those who have:

    1. mocked a trans woman repeatedly

    2. denied the realities of what it takes to become “X” gender

    3. denied the trans woman her identity because she looks masculine

    4. provided “extremely harmful” information


    As noted previously... YOU are barking up the wrong tree.

    Why is that, when the transgressions (no pun intended) have been with Leftists in this thread????

    Why have you failed to address these misinformed, mocking Leftists????

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    Re: He many not be pretty, but he identifies as a she...

    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Why do we call tomboys "tomboys"?
    aproudlefty, you have not answered my question "what is a woman supposed to look or act like?". This is part of the issue for women. Gender identity is supposedly a feeling and it is based on some sort of stereotype of how a woman is supposed to look and behave. There is no one way women look, behave, or dress but they all do have something in common - their biological reality. This cannot be identified away.
    It is regressive to claim that women need to look or act a certain way. The trans-identified people in this thread are biologically male but do identify as women and are accepted as women by those who believe woman is simply a feeling and that anyone can identify as one. This is part of the pronblem. It is a misguided attempt at acceptance. I do think people who struggle with how to present themselves (masculine, feminine, in between) deserve dignity but I also think we have to recognize what is at stake by replacing sex with gender identity.
    I think the way this conversation has gone is simply pitting you against zimmer, giving no chance of a good-faith discussion on an important topic. You have each gone to opposite corners, trying to prove something. It's more complicated than that.

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    Re: He many not be pretty, but he identifies as a she...

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Group Identity is foundational to Leftism. It’s the Left’s thing, so spare me the bull****.


    Why don’t you address those who have:

    2. denied the realities of what it takes to become “X” gender

    3. denied the trans woman her identity because she looks masculine

    Zimmer, group identity focus is as common on the right as it is on the left. Whether it is gun rights activists, christian fundamentalists, anti-abortion activists, or it is LGBT activists, pro-choice activists, etc. These are all voting blocks who politicians pander to whether they believe in their cause or not. Identity has been a hyper focus in the US since the founding. I agree that it's a problem.

    I have addressed any posts on this thread that in my opinion perpetuate misinformation or that I disagree with or think is harmful. I don't care which political side anyone is on. I agree or disagree based on content. You can check my responses to people on this thread to verify.

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