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The end of the road for cows

I just did a seven pound Bone on prime rib in an oven that fits on top of my wood burning stove the other night. My daughter is out of town so it was just for me.

Nothing Invented In a lab will ever replace that perfect piece of meat...

Added: I aged it for about six weeks...
 
GDViking said:
I just did a seven pound Bone on prime rib in an oven that fits on top of my wood burning stove the other night. My daughter is out of town so it was just for me.

Nothing Invented In a lab will ever replace that perfect piece of meat...
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I'm coming to your house! DAMN that sounds tasty!
 
GDViking said:
Nothing Invented In a lab will ever replace that perfect piece of meat...
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I mean....it probably can. I'm all for beef and pork and chicken as well, I cook them a lot. But nothing in nature is outside the possibility of being perfected by science. I'm sure that if we wanted to, we could engineer something better in the lab.
 
GDViking said:
The top comes off my stove and I also use the oven as a smoker, so it was partially smoked, it was tasty...
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I ... have to end this conversation... I already spent my food budget this week ...
 
GDViking said:
Leftovers made unbelievable French dips!!!

Okay, I'll stop��
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Helix said:
I switched to plant based meat first partially and then completely. I'm looking forward to seeing it proliferate more. I've been to a lot of restaurants with friends and family only to find that my best option for an entree was a grilled cheese sandwich. I hope that changes.
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I like OPTIONS. No one should dictate what we can or should eat.
 
GDViking said:
Just the term " synthetic meat" sends shivers up and down my spine.

One of my many part time sporadic jobs is butcher.

I would rather do an on farm kill and gut a cow and have fresh heart for supper (most clients don't want to keep those) than put " synthetic meat" in my body...
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Industrially produced animals are pretty much synthetic. They're not really animals, they're meat in a petri dish. They never see the sun. They are full of antibiotics to withstand the conditions, and pulsing with hormones to accelerate growth. They're fed by tubes. The end product has feces in it.

There's nothing natural about industrial meat production.
 
Helix said:
No one told me what to eat today. You?
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I was referring to options in restaurants, but I am a bit puzzled when I read
Bad news: you might think you decide what you eat but you don't. That decision is made by marketers, food scientists and producers. Oh you can still have a steak from a real live cow in the future, just be ready to pay astronomical sums for the privilege.
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Telling us what to eat, making certain foods unaffordable...
 
Lovebug said:
Telling us what to eat, making certain foods unaffordable...
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That's why meat exists. Propaganda like renaming it (pigs are "pork", cows are "beef") to disassociate, and massive government subsidy, are what make it an industry. The industry is a pile of BS and subsidy.
 
ecofarm said:
Industrially produced animals are pretty much synthetic. They're not really animals, they're meat in a petri dish. They never see the sun. They are full of antibiotics to withstand the conditions, and pulsing with hormones to accelerate growth. They're fed by tubes. The end product has feces in it.

There's nothing natural about industrial meat production.
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Spend much time on a farm? It does not sound like.
P.S. it would be difficult to make a profit on beef, it the cows spent all their lives in a barn being fed from tubes.
 
Thorgasm said:
Have you seen the price of these plant based proteins?

They are way too expensive to take over the market.
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Read the article - price will substantially reduce.
 
GDViking said:
Nope not for me, cows have four stomachs for a reason.

Cows are vegetarians so I don't have to be!!!
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Vegetables are what food eats.
 
longview said:
Spend much time on a farm? It does not sound like.
P.S. it would be difficult to make a profit on beef, it the cows spent all their lives in a barn being fed from tubes.
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I've spent years on farms researching agriculture for my Masters and PhD(c). I'm kind of an expert in low input small farm production. I've lived and Europe and Africa studying farms. I've modeled countless farms in the process of a longitudinal study of a farming village. Your BS post is as stupid as the denier crap you post in climate.

Barn? What's that idiotic crap. Do you know what "industrial" means?
 
Lovebug said:
I was referring to options in restaurants, but I am a bit puzzled when I read
Telling us what to eat, making certain foods unaffordable...
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At the rate our population is growing, tech is going to have to be a big percentage of the increase. There may come a time when it's too inefficient to raise herds large enough to feed everyone meat at current levels. We're a ways off from that, though.

My guess is that lab grown meat technology will improve a lot. Plant based meat already has. I worked in tissue culture for more than a decade and sometimes wondered about growing meat that way.
 
Helix said:
At the rate our population is growing, tech is going to have to be a big percentage of the increase. There may come a time when it's too inefficient to raise herds large enough to feed everyone meat at current levels. We're a ways off from that, though.

My guess is that lab grown meat technology will improve a lot. Plant based meat already has. I worked in tissue culture for more than a decade and sometimes wondered about growing meat that way.
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Entire cultures exist on plant based diets. We have a lot to learn from them.
 
ecofarm said:
I've spent years on farms researching agriculture for my masters and PhD. I'm kind of an expert in low input small farm production. I've lived and Europe and Africa studying farms. I've modeled countless farms in the process of a longitudinal study of a farming village. Your BS post is as stupid as the denier crap you post in climate.

Barn? What's that idiotic crap. Do you know what "industrial" means?
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For all your claimed expertise, it does not sound like you have seen many actual cattle operations.
Most cows are allowed to graze, they have to, the cost of doing otherwise would bake the beef prohibitively expensive.
Grass, hay, and salt licks, and some feed.
I think feed is nearly twice the cost of hay, and self produced hay is even less expensive.
At the end of the day, the object is to sell the cows, for more than the cost to raise them.
 
Lovebug said:
I like OPTIONS. No one should dictate what we can or should eat.
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It's dictated now. You eat what companies are willing to sell you.
 
longview said:
At the end of the day, the object is to sell the cows, for more than the cost to raise them.
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There are other considerations. What a stupid platitude.

Beside, it's only profitable via subsidy and externalities. You have no idea what you're talking about.
 
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