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Weird question about gambling

Superfly

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My grandson is in band. The local hardware store has donated a bbq grill to help with their fundraising. The school will not allow us to have a “raffle,” because we are in the belt buckle of the Bible Belt, and a raffle is considered gambling.

Any ideas on what this could be called, or a different way to present it where “donating money will get you a chance to win a grill,” without people seeing it as gambling?
 
Superfly said:
My grandson is in band. The local hardware store has donated a bbq grill to help with their fundraising. The school will not allow us to have a “raffle,” because we are in the belt buckle of the Bible Belt, and a raffle is considered gambling.

Any ideas on what this could be called, or a different way to present it where “donating money will get you a chance to win a grill,” without people seeing it as gambling?
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Sure. Have the store donate a bible instead of the grill. Easy-peasy.
 
Superfly said:
My grandson is in band. The local hardware store has donated a bbq grill to help with their fundraising. The school will not allow us to have a “raffle,” because we are in the belt buckle of the Bible Belt, and a raffle is considered gambling.

Any ideas on what this could be called, or a different way to present it where “donating money will get you a chance to win a grill,” without people seeing it as gambling?
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I did a quick look online and found this:

If a Fundraiser Event is Considered Gambling, Is It Legal?

Even though the fundraiser satisfies all elements of gambling, it may not necessarily be illegal.

Gambling, subject to various restrictions and regulations, is widely legal in the United States--some states allow more gambling, some allow less, but all states except Utah and Hawaii allow at least some form of gambling. And charitable (i.e, fundraising) gambling is no exception: charitable gambling is allowed in all states except HI, SC, TN, and UT. That means you can engage in charitable gambling in 46 of 50 states.

However, just because charitable gambling is allowed doesn't mean that all charitable gambling will be allowed in a state. Legal gambling (charitable or otherwise) has to comply with state regulations. Every state has its own gambling laws and regulations, and for gambling to be legal, those laws and procedures must be followed.

Is Fundraising with Raffles, Casino Night for Schools or Charity Subject to Gambling Laws?
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There is more about what makes an activity "gambling" in that article, but it seems to boil down to this: If you live in HI, SC, TN, and UT you are out of luck. If you live in other states, you'll probably have some hoops to jump through.
 
Mycroft said:
I did a quick look online and found this:



There is more about what makes an activity "gambling" in that article, but it seems to boil down to this: If you live in HI, SC, TN, and UT you are out of luck. If you live in other states, you'll probably have some hoops to jump through.
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Thanks. I don’t think they care about the legality of it. It’s more of a “Gamblin’s wrong, y’all! We’d rather the kids have crappy uniforms and instruments that are falling apart, than to let them have a harmless little fund raiser.”
 
Superfly said:
My grandson is in band. The local hardware store has donated a bbq grill to help with their fundraising. The school will not allow us to have a “raffle,” because we are in the belt buckle of the Bible Belt, and a raffle is considered gambling.

Any ideas on what this could be called, or a different way to present it where “donating money will get you a chance to win a grill,” without people seeing it as gambling?
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Gambling is where you are putting something of value onto a risk in hopes of seeing more of value later. Technically bank loans and investing is gambling. However, that is not what is happening with the band. People are donating money to the band. This is an act of charity. As a sign of appreciation, a separate entity, the business, is also engaging in an act of charity by donating a grill to kind people, and holding a drawing for it, since they only have one grill to give away.

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Superfly said:
My grandson is in band. The local hardware store has donated a bbq grill to help with their fundraising. The school will not allow us to have a “raffle,” because we are in the belt buckle of the Bible Belt, and a raffle is considered gambling.

Any ideas on what this could be called, or a different way to present it where “donating money will get you a chance to win a grill,” without people seeing it as gambling?
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Call it 'Holy Rollers'.
 
Superfly said:
My grandson is in band. The local hardware store has donated a bbq grill to help with their fundraising. The school will not allow us to have a “raffle,” because we are in the belt buckle of the Bible Belt, and a raffle is considered gambling.

Any ideas on what this could be called, or a different way to present it where “donating money will get you a chance to win a grill,” without people seeing it as gambling?
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Have the band members (and/or their parents) use that grill to prepare and sell hotdogs, hamburgers and/or sausages (also donated?) to raise money by holding a "support your band" picnic. Another alternative is to have the band hold an auction to sell any donated items (including the grill) at the end of that picnic.
 
Superfly said:
My grandson is in band. The local hardware store has donated a bbq grill to help with their fundraising. The school will not allow us to have a “raffle,” because we are in the belt buckle of the Bible Belt, and a raffle is considered gambling.

Any ideas on what this could be called, or a different way to present it where “donating money will get you a chance to win a grill,” without people seeing it as gambling?
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Donations being taken for a cause. You may receive our thank you gift.
 
Superfly said:
My grandson is in band. The local hardware store has donated a bbq grill to help with their fundraising. The school will not allow us to have a “raffle,” because we are in the belt buckle of the Bible Belt, and a raffle is considered gambling.

Any ideas on what this could be called, or a different way to present it where “donating money will get you a chance to win a grill,” without people seeing it as gambling?
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In south Georgia, you are SOL babygirl unless you can find the part in the Bible where Jesus actioned a BBQ grill to raise money for children. It's in there right near the part about not selling wedding cakes to gay couples. OK, that probably won't fly. I doubt you'll find 2 gay people in all of Glynn County anyway. Just ask for a show of hands. ;)

Your only viable option is to have the biggest local church raffle the BBQ grill and donate the money to the band. That's your best option.
 
Superfly said:
My grandson is in band. The local hardware store has donated a bbq grill to help with their fundraising. The school will not allow us to have a “raffle,” because we are in the belt buckle of the Bible Belt, and a raffle is considered gambling.

Any ideas on what this could be called, or a different way to present it where “donating money will get you a chance to win a grill,” without people seeing it as gambling?
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Raffles are often considered to be games of chance and thus gambling. It’s pretty common but usually just requires a permit.
 
I think some of y’all are missing the point.

Actually it’s clear that many of y’all have never lived in the Bible Belt.

It has has nothing to do with the law or permits, and everything to do with, “OMGZ GAMBLING IS THE DEBIL!”

We have to find a way to change how it’s looked at. :lol:
 
What if you "sell" them some little stupid trinket (like a kids party favor) and the trinket has a ticket attached?
 
Superfly said:
My grandson is in band. The local hardware store has donated a bbq grill to help with their fundraising. The school will not allow us to have a “raffle,” because we are in the belt buckle of the Bible Belt, and a raffle is considered gambling.

Any ideas on what this could be called, or a different way to present it where “donating money will get you a chance to win a grill,” without people seeing it as gambling?
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Im afraid a raffle is a raffle, and they are smart enough pick up on flim flam.
Possibly a prize winning ticket thing.
 
Best raffle item we have sold tickets for is for a custom AR 15. In a blue state almost the same reaction by some here as any raffle in the bible belt.

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Superfly said:
My grandson is in band. The local hardware store has donated a bbq grill to help with their fundraising. The school will not allow us to have a “raffle,” because we are in the belt buckle of the Bible Belt, and a raffle is considered gambling.

Any ideas on what this could be called, or a different way to present it where “donating money will get you a chance to win a grill,” without people seeing it as gambling?
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You can auction it off

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Superfly said:
Thanks. I don’t think they care about the legality of it. It’s more of a “Gamblin’s wrong, y’all! We’d rather the kids have crappy uniforms and instruments that are falling apart, than to let them have a harmless little fund raiser.”
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And yet in that part of the country the same people have no problem "gambling" on the shrimp enchiladas at the local all you can eat buffet.
 
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