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    CBC's chat bot helps you spot 'fake news' and avoid spreading it

    From the CBC (which does NOT stand for Communist Bull**** Conspiracy [no matter what your friends tell you])

    CBC's chat bot helps you spot 'fake news' and avoid spreading it

    If you think you've been fooled by "fake news," you're not alone.

    Ninety per cent of Canadians
    feel they've fallen for it at some point, according to an Ipsos Public Affairs for Canada's Centre for International Governance Innovation (CIGI).

    And it will, more than ever, play a role in this federal election.

    Disinformation frequently spreads on Facebook so that's why we've created a chat bot tool there through Messenger, to help you spot disinformation and decide what news sources you can trust throughout the campaign.

    You can launch the chat bot here.
    You can also start the chat by typing "guide" to CBC News on Messenger.

    If you opt in, the chat bot will guide you through five weeks of learning about deepfakes, altered photos and articles that may look like they're from news sites but aren't. Here's what you will learn:

    ...

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    This doesn't fit ANY category that I can think of except, possibly, "Public Service Announcements" - but I thought that some people might find it interesting and/or useful (even if only as a place to refer other people who DO get taken in by "Fake News" on a routine basis).
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    Re: CBC's chat bot helps you spot 'fake news' and avoid spreading it

    Here's the problem with "fake news" -

    The recent CNN story about the US spy that got pulled out of Russia made it sound like the reasoning was that the IC didn't trust Trump. The said something along the lines of, "sources tell us that Trump's handling of classified material was part of the concern" and then went on to write a piece that, if given a cursory read, would lead the reader to the conclusion that Trump was the PRIMARY reason for the exfiltration.

    There really wasn't anything "fake" about the CNN story. It's just that the whole thing was wrapped up in a giant burrito of bull**** and omissions. Unless one took the time to read the entire article, question one or two of the comments in the article and then do their own check on the totality of the facts and circumstances they would be left with an impression that didn't reflect the reality of the situation.

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    Re: CBC's chat bot helps you spot 'fake news' and avoid spreading it

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Here's the problem with "fake news" -

    The recent CNN story about the US spy that got pulled out of Russia made it sound like the reasoning was that the IC didn't trust Trump. The said something along the lines of, "sources tell us that Trump's handling of classified material was part of the concern" and then went on to write a piece that, if given a cursory read, would lead the reader to the conclusion that Trump was the PRIMARY reason for the exfiltration.

    There really wasn't anything "fake" about the CNN story. It's just that the whole thing was wrapped up in a giant burrito of bull**** and omissions. Unless one took the time to read the entire article, question one or two of the comments in the article and then do their own check on the totality of the facts and circumstances they would be left with an impression that didn't reflect the reality of the situation.
    So the problem is more to do with lazy people unwilling to read things past the first paragraph or so?

    To me the problem is with media tailored for that type of person. Not to pick on the Daily Caller but it is one of the prime examples of companies that produce short sensational articles that have nothing but half truths, with little depth behind it
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    Re: CBC's chat bot helps you spot 'fake news' and avoid spreading it

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    So the problem is more to do with lazy people unwilling to read things past the first paragraph or so?

    To me the problem is with media tailored for that type of person. Not to pick on the Daily Caller but it is one of the prime examples of companies that produce short sensational articles that have nothing but half truths, with little depth behind it
    Not just lazy people. The media is often intentionally misleading in their stories. While playing that game night not exactly be a lie it is pretty damned unethical.

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    Re: CBC's chat bot helps you spot 'fake news' and avoid spreading it

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Not just lazy people. The media is often intentionally misleading in their stories. While playing that game night not exactly be a lie it is pretty damned unethical.

    Yep ... and the most recent intentionally misleading story was published by no other than the NYT: New allegations against Kavanaugh.
    6/13/2016 - Obama advisor David Plouffe:
    "It is not enough to simply beat Trump. He must be destroyed thoroughly. His kind must not rise again."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barnacle View Post
    Yep ... and the most recent intentionally misleading story was published by no other than the NYT: New allegations against Kavanaugh.
    The handling of Kavanaugh from day one has been a prime example of this kind of agenda driven media narrative. Frankly, I'm a little surprised that the bastards haven't learned their lesson on this kind of thing yet.

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    Re: CBC's chat bot helps you spot 'fake news' and avoid spreading it

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Here's the problem with "fake news" -

    The recent CNN story about the US spy that got pulled out of Russia made it sound like the reasoning was that the IC didn't trust Trump. The said something along the lines of, "sources tell us that Trump's handling of classified material was part of the concern" and then went on to write a piece that, if given a cursory read, would lead the reader to the conclusion that Trump was the PRIMARY reason for the exfiltration.

    There really wasn't anything "fake" about the CNN story. It's just that the whole thing was wrapped up in a giant burrito of bull**** and omissions. Unless one took the time to read the entire article, question one or two of the comments in the article and then do their own check on the totality of the facts and circumstances they would be left with an impression that didn't reflect the reality of the situation.
    If I rephrase your post as


    "If you don't bother to put out the effort to actually find out what is actually happening, then you are going to be suckered into believing what someone who has told you you have to believe what they tell you tells you."

    PLEASE NOTE - I did not specify any particular source, political party, or political leaning in the above. I didn't do that because you are going to find someone who tells you that you have to believe what they tell you REGARDLESS of which source, political party, or political leaning you (and that "someone") have.
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    Re: CBC's chat bot helps you spot 'fake news' and avoid spreading it

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Not just lazy people. The media is often intentionally misleading in their stories. While playing that game night not exactly be a lie it is pretty damned unethical.
    News media are NOT in the business of selling "ethics", they are in the business of selling "advertising space".

    If it is not illegal and it turns a profit, then it is "ethical" according to the reason that the news media is in business.

    If it makes MORE of a profit, it is MORE "ethical" and if makes LESS of a profit, it is LESS "ethical".
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    Re: CBC's chat bot helps you spot 'fake news' and avoid spreading it

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post
    If I rephrase your post as


    "If you don't bother to put out the effort to actually find out what is actually happening, then you are going to be suckered into believing what someone who has told you you have to believe what they tell you tells you."

    PLEASE NOTE - I did not specify any particular source, political party, or political leaning in the above. I didn't do that because you are going to find someone who tells you that you have to believe what they tell you REGARDLESS of which source, political party, or political leaning you (and that "someone") have.
    The media shenanigans aren't limited to one political lean or another. Some sources produce a better quality product than others but bias is present in most outlets.

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    Re: CBC's chat bot helps you spot 'fake news' and avoid spreading it

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post
    News media are NOT in the business of selling "ethics", they are in the business of selling "advertising space".

    If it is not illegal and it turns a profit, then it is "ethical" according to the reason that the news media is in business.

    If it makes MORE of a profit, it is MORE "ethical" and if makes LESS of a profit, it is LESS "ethical".
    I totally agree about advertising dollars but one should be able to be ethical AND informative.

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