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    Re: Watch your language in Berkeley, California

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    Men will just continue to be men and they can be gender neutral. "It" should suffice. But substituting "human effort" for "manpower" is just stupid. It's derived from the same root.
    So what's the big deal then? You're as bent and twisted over it as they are...what does that make you?
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    Re: Watch your language in Berkeley, California

    Quote Originally Posted by OlNate View Post
    So what's the big deal then? You're as bent and twisted over it as they are...what does that make you?
    I'm not bent over it. On the contrary, showing how dumb these people are is like Christmas in July.
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    Re: Watch your language in Berkeley, California

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Oh, yes, people have been using the plural "their" for "everyone," "everybody" (which means "every one body"), "anyone," "anybody," "someone," and "somebody" for decades. (It's "each" that sends me over the moon--it means "one"!) Grammarians began to argue in the late '60's/early '70's that the old-school rule of using "he" was paying undue deference to males. I remember when Dr. Spock laboriously edited his famed baby "bible" to more carefully balance little boy with little girl examples.

    Anyway, "Everyone has their ticket" remains wrong but is easily fixed by simply saying "We all have our tickets."

    Sigh, not that anybody cares.

    You may enjoy this piece by Kevin Williamson (Teaser: He quotes Orwell and Shakespeare): A Herd Has No Mind | National Review
    When you think about it, it’s very odd that in the English language there is a gender neutral word to refer to third person plural “them”, but you have to choose one referring to third person singular. What if you don’t know or just don’t want to specify whether that person is male or female?

    I don’t think any other language is like that. Either they make their distinctions for both singular and plural, or for neither.

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    Re: Watch your language in Berkeley, California

    Quote Originally Posted by ataraxia View Post
    When you think about it, it’s very odd that in the English language there is a gender neutral word to refer to third person plural “them”, but you have to choose one referring to third person singular. What if you don’t know or just don’t want to specify whether that person is male or female?

    I don’t think any other language is like that. Either they make their distinctions for both singular and plural, or for neither.
    I wonder what the Germans are doing about this sexism problem. Every noun has a masculine, feminine, or neuter article. They're going to have to rewrite their entire language, e.g. "Das Fräulein."
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    Re: Watch your language in Berkeley, California

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    I'm not bent over it. On the contrary, showing how dumb these people are is like Christmas in July.
    Huh...well, whatever gets you off, friend... hehe... It takes all kinds, apparently.
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    Re: Watch your language in Berkeley, California

    Quote Originally Posted by TheParser View Post
    If you ever visit that university town, do be careful with gender-neutral words.

    According to an article posted at my favorite website (the Drudge Report), that city wants you to say "maintenance hole" for "manhole" and "human effort" for "manpower."

    It also reminds you to use "their" instead of "his," as in "Everyone should bring their book tomorrow." To be fair, I have noticed that most Americans already do that. In fact, some really "woke" speakers will say (even when speaking to an audience of both men and women): "I would appreciate it if everyone would bring her book tomorrow to class." (In other words, it is considered terrible to continue to use "his" as the gender-neutral pronoun, but some people feel it is fine to use "her" as a gender-neutral pronoun.)

    No wonder some of our foreign friends find the English language so difficult to master.
    That is just so ridiculous, and totally pointless

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    Re: Watch your language in Berkeley, California

    Quote Originally Posted by OlNate View Post
    Huh...well, whatever gets you off, friend... hehe... It takes all kinds, apparently.
    I thought these word police were done forty years ago: postal carrier (mailman), flight attendant (steward, stewardess), server (waiter, waitress) crewmember (crewman), fascist (policeman)....
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    Re: Watch your language in Berkeley, California

    Quote Originally Posted by TheParser View Post
    If you ever visit that university town, do be careful with gender-neutral words.

    According to an article posted at my favorite website (the Drudge Report), that city wants you to say "maintenance hole" for "manhole" and "human effort" for "manpower."

    It also reminds you to use "their" instead of "his," as in "Everyone should bring their book tomorrow." To be fair, I have noticed that most Americans already do that. In fact, some really "woke" speakers will say (even when speaking to an audience of both men and women): "I would appreciate it if everyone would bring her book tomorrow to class." (In other words, it is considered terrible to continue to use "his" as the gender-neutral pronoun, but some people feel it is fine to use "her" as a gender-neutral pronoun.)

    No wonder some of our foreign friends find the English language so difficult to master.
    That city wants us to... wait a minute. Somebody just made all this up, didn't he.
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    Re: Watch your language in Berkeley, California

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    If it doesn't cost anything, then why change them? Why do leftist feel the need to neuter humans, humanity, humankind? Are these morons still going to call the female version of themselves woman (of man)? When are they going to chuck the, um, mother (is that a safe word?) of all sexists English words?
    You are really upset by pronoun usage.
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    Re: Watch your language in Berkeley, California

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You are really upset by pronoun usage.
    Like I said, not at all. It's hilarious.
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