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"people of color" is OK while "colored people" is found racist

justabubba said:
i bet that school board member would have confidently said the same

until she used an expression she did not realize was found offensive by many
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issue an apology, and let the chips fall where they may. i would be instantly fired for that, for any other reason, or for no reason at all. i live in a fire at will / right to work for less state.
 
justabubba said:
WATCH: School board meeting on racist threats erupts after trustee calls students ‘colored’

my age is probably showing, having lived in eras when common usage expressions referring to african-Americans evolved from "nigger", to "colored", to "negro", to "black", to "african-American", and back to "black" [apologies to AC/DC and Lewis Black]

as indicated in the cite, a non-age-challenged, female caucasian used the term "colored students" and upon learning of its antiquated origins immediately apologized. multiple times. here is what she said:


as can be discerned, the school board member was advocating improvements to the benefit of minority students

that seemed not to be heard

what caused this to become newsworthy was her use of "colored" when referring to students

as the title of this thread indicates, it seems a massive leap of semantics to accept 'persons of color' while rejecting 'colored persons'

as a male having a predominantly european heritage, other than the laughable "cracker", what terms are not to be used in my direction without being mistaken for derision?
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Up to you, innit.
If the old guy across the lane tells you he doesn't like the term 'wop', do you tell him there's nothing offensive about it and call him a wop anyway? It's like the Washington Redskins, nobody who isn't Native American is entitled to an opinion on whether that's offensive or not. Same with 'coloured'. If you're one, you get to decide if it's offensive or not. If you're not one, you don't.
 
justabubba said:
WATCH: School board meeting on racist threats erupts after trustee calls students ‘colored’

my age is probably showing, having lived in eras when common usage expressions referring to african-Americans evolved from "nigger", to "colored", to "negro", to "black", to "african-American", and back to "black" [apologies to AC/DC and Lewis Black]

as indicated in the cite, a non-age-challenged, female caucasian used the term "colored students" and upon learning of its antiquated origins immediately apologized. multiple times. here is what she said:


as can be discerned, the school board member was advocating improvements to the benefit of minority students

that seemed not to be heard

what caused this to become newsworthy was her use of "colored" when referring to students

as the title of this thread indicates, it seems a massive leap of semantics to accept 'persons of color' while rejecting 'colored persons'

as a male having a predominantly european heritage, other than the laughable "cracker", what terms are not to be used in my direction without being mistaken for derision?
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Don't kid yourself...
Posting this isn't going to stop. Tomorrow someone else will say something senseless,maybe another hour.
 
TheParser said:
Immigrants learning English often want to know why "colored person" is offensive, but "person of color" is fine.

It is next to impossible to give them an explanation except: Just memorize the rule.
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I have just read a relevant op-ed in the liberal Los Angeles Times of April 28, 2019. (This computer illiterate cannot link, so just google: "The term 'people of color' erases black people. Let's retire it" by Nadra Widatalla.)
 
People nowadays take themselves way too seriously. Everyone gets offended at the slightest bull****. Grow a vagina and get rid of those tender balls.
 
Blacks want to be called "teens' now.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
First, we shouldn't expect perfect logic and reason when it comes to language. The evolution of language takes a bunch of weird turns. It is ok to call British people "Brits" but it is not ok to call Japanese people "Japs". Person of color is ok but colored person is not. And no, there really are no truly inserting words for white people. Cracker, honkey, gringo...they almost sound like cute nicknames.

Hell, I can just imagine how the new brand of political correctness is going in Spanish speaking countries where nearly EVERYTHING has a "gender". Or how about this: One boy is called a "chico". One girl is called a "chica". A group of 100 girls is referred to as "chicas". But put just one boy in that group of 100 girls and now the group is called "chicos".

If people are trying to force language to be fair and balanced they are setting themselves up for disappointment.
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bongsaway said:
People nowadays take themselves way too seriously. Everyone gets offended at the slightest bull****. Grow a vagina and get rid of those tender balls.
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What more is there to say?
 
Helix said:
at my own job, i could be fired for any reason or for no reason at all.
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Really? You guys don't have wrongful dismissal in the States?
 
Wan said:
Really? You guys don't have wrongful dismissal in the States?
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It's a fire at will / right to work for less red state. I would consider showing it my tail lights, but my family is here.
 
Helix said:
It's a fire at will / right to work for less red state. I would consider showing it my tail lights, but my family is here.
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I see. I still have much to learn about the States. Here in Canada, we have wrongful dismissal and I would say we are mostly "blue".
 
Wan said:
I see. I still have much to learn about the States. Here in Canada, we have wrongful dismissal and I would say we are mostly "blue".
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In the states, a big chunk of the country believes that if we give most of the money to five old white guys, it will somehow magic us all to prosperity. Treating workers well is bad, as it slows down the transfer of wealth to those five guys.
 
Helix said:
In the states, a big chunk of the country believes that if we give most of the money to five old white guys, it will somehow magic us all to prosperity. Treating workers well is bad, as it slows down the transfer of wealth to those five guys.
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Would it be accurate to say that you are fiscally liberal, Helix? I am myself fiscally liberal too, although I am socially conservative.
 
Wan said:
Would it be accurate to say that you are fiscally liberal, Helix? I am myself fiscally liberal too, although I am socially conservative.
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define 'socially conservative'...what does it entail 'specifically'... what are it's values and morals ?,......inclusive? exclusive? Racist ? homophobia ? anti-Jewish ?
 
Wan said:
Would it be accurate to say that you are fiscally liberal, Helix? I am myself fiscally liberal too, although I am socially conservative.
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i consider myself to be basically European center left. i support enacting the social programs and worker protections that they've had in Europe for many decades. i'm also uncomfortable with the way we allocate our revenue and borrow, borrow, borrow so that we can enact unnecessary tax cuts for the rich at regular intervals.
 
PoppyCock said:
What's up with "African American"? If you feel a need to hyphenate your name, should not the country you were born and raised in, be first?
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African American was coined by Jesse Jackson back in the 80s. Doesn't have anything to do with country of birth.
 
Helix said:
then use the former and don't use the latter.

it's time to eat, grandma.

it's time to eat grandma.

there's only a comma of difference, but a vastly different intent.
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Not sure why it's a big deal. If a term is offensive or disparaging to someone, don't ****ing use it.
 
Superfly said:
Not sure why it's a big deal. If a term is offensive or disparaging to someone, don't ****ing use it.
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In a way, this is letting other people dictate to one how to use the language.
 
The same nonsense exists in Australia. 'Aborignals' good, 'Aboriginies' bad. They must now be referred to by the adjective rather than the noun from the same root, which is not only grammatically incorrect, but just plain stupid.
 
Xelor said:
Red/Off-Topic:
What?

Blue:
What the hell is "age-challenged?"
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Non-age-challenged is a description of a person young enough to not be able to claim conditioning via an earlier era. An 80-year-old might be somewhat forgiven for referring to 'colored people.' The student currently caught in the viciousness of modern political correctness has no such cover.
 
Xelor said:
Red:
I understood your OP's theme until I got to the "red" sentence, which strikes me as completely non-sequitur to the rest of the post. What has the "red" question to do with the context and theme of the rest of the OP?
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I took it that the political correctness nazis will attack, berate, and punish a person for using anything but whatever is this week's politically correct designated term for all persons in protected classes or who are not non-Hispanic caucasians of mostly European descent. But there is no such politically correct designation for non-Hispanic caucasians of mostly European descent and such people can be described however anybody wants to describe them with impunity even though they are less than 16% of the global population.
 
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Superfly said:
African American was coined by Jesse Jackson back in the 80s. Doesn't have anything to do with country of birth.
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Nice etymology there. Why in the hell do we have to obey Jesse Jackson? I bet you can guess which word my parents used. Well, my old man mellowed out in his later years and used the term "colored". I guess he figured if it was good enough to describe drinking fountains and bus station waiting rooms that it was good enough for him.
 
AlbqOwl said:
Non-age-challenged is a description of a person young enough to not be able to claim conditioning via an earlier era. An 80-year-old might be somewhat forgiven for referring to 'colored people.' The student currently caught in the viciousness of modern political correctness has no such cover.
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If you're retired, there's no job to get you fired from, that's why. If you're over 70, just say the full monty. Screw the language NAZIs.
 
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