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Billboard's country music: out of touch

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Do Billboard's country music charts have a race problem?

That's what some people are alleging after the Billboard charts disqualified Lil Nas X's song "Old Town Road" from the country charts for "not embracing enough elements of today’s country music." And in 2019, when the industry is supposed to be rewarding forward-thinking artists pushing their genres forward, the charts body's choice to police an arbitrary definition of country music at the expense of the rising artist is woefully misguided.

Lil Nas X's viral hit 'Old Town Road' exposes country music's race problem

What a complete joke. Country Music is out of touch and outdated. If they want a bigger fanbase they need to embrace artists that did not start out as country artists and crossed over. The genre is stuck in the mud.
 
Lil Nas X's viral hit 'Old Town Road' exposes country music's race problem

What a complete joke. Country Music is out of touch and outdated. If they want a bigger fanbase they need to embrace artists that did not start out as country artists and crossed over. The genre is stuck in the mud.

I don’t think country music has any problems with the size of the fan base. Now I’m listening to the song and I think the artist is talented, but it’s not a country song.

I also don’t see how this points to a “race problem” Darius Rucker had a successful solo career and Charlie Pride was really popular in the south decades ago when the area was really racist.

Here’s an example, anyone would call THIS country

 
The vast majority of today's "country" music is tuneless, genreless dreck. If it weren't for Outlaw Country on sirius XM, I really don't know what I would listen to.

Willie, Hank, Waylon, Merle, George, and Emmylou.
 
Lil Nas X's viral hit 'Old Town Road' exposes country music's race problem

What a complete joke. Country Music is out of touch and outdated. If they want a bigger fanbase they need to embrace artists that did not start out as country artists and crossed over. The genre is stuck in the mud.

I agree with other posts that country has degraded to this terrible 'tractor rap' nonsense. It's cheap, corporate pablum spewed out by Nashville to make a quick buck. Real country music had some kind of message, or was a celebration of specific local customs, or just told a good story. Stuff like this:





I like some hip hop and soul too (Erykah Badu, Asheru, The Unspoken Heard, etc.), but they're really distinct music genres. Turning country into hiphop won't make either genre better, it will just destroy one of the genres. Same thing would be true in reverse. If I have to hear one more retarded country song set to a stupid snap track that mentions painted on jeans, dirt roads, and pickup trucks I'm going to shoot myself. It's kind of telling that they drew the line at a black guy though lmfao. I guess it's fine when hunky blue eyed good ole boys **** on a great musical tradition for a quick buck.
 
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I’m not buying it. Darius Rucker is an awesome country singer and has had tremendous success. This is one of my favorite “current” country songs and it won a Grammy.



And the comments have some of the fewest racist posts I have ever seen on YouTube, which should be surprising given the content. Country fans feel Darius is genuine to the genre.

I personally like pushing genra boundaries, but I don’t think the lack of acceptance so far for this artist is racist.
 
I’m not buying it. Darius Rucker is an awesome country singer and has had tremendous success. This is one of my favorite “current” country songs and it won a Grammy.



And the comments have some of the fewest racist posts I have ever seen on YouTube, which should be surprising given the content. Country fans feel Darius is genuine to the genre.

I personally like pushing genra boundaries, but I don’t think the lack of acceptance so far for this artist is racist.



Great track :applaud
 
Music, like so much else, is one of the things we need to stop judging based on "tidy lil boxes" and instead simply put it all in one box, call it music and be done.

Some of why music is categorized -- rock, pop, jazz, R&B, blues, country, classical, etc. -- makes sense to me, and some of it doesn't. It makes sense from a marketing POV to classify music because doing so is essential to developing a marketing strategy. It also makes sense that the music industry gives more than simply a single superlative award, say, "best song," because doing so makes it easier to promote more rather than fewer songs/artists. Additionally, it's very hard to compare music across styles. Then there is the "democratization" dilemma:
  • Should evaluators judge music as we judge, say, Olympic gymnasts and skaters where quality of execution and artistry, along with the difficulty of the routine as a whole all factor into the overall score?
  • Should evaluators judge music based on market outcomes?
The same conflict exists among films. There are the theater blockbusters the general public really enjoys, as well they should for such films are quite entertaining, however, as manifestations of art of filmmaking, they're "not all that." There are also the films that may not have tons of popular appeal; however, they embody the artistic qualities filmmakers prize. And, once in a while, there's the film that is a knockout in both regards.


On the other hand, Lil Naz thinks his song is a country song. To me it sounds like a merger of country and hip-hop/rap: the lyrical themes are straight-up country; however, the musical flavor is rap/hip-hop. I'd say, therefore, that the song belongs on both charts.

Of course, if I had my way, there'd just be one chart: top songs. I'd have it that way because, for myself, there is no genre of music that has nothing I like and though I can say I like "this" song better than "that" one, but I want to hear them both, and it really doesn't matter to me in what category either song falls.
 
Does the country music industry have a race "issue?" I don't know. How many minorities make country music? I also don't know the answer to that question. Not knowing, it's all but impossible to say whether country music has a race "issue."
 
Kids these days and their music! *shakes old man fist*
 
I’m not buying it. Darius Rucker is an awesome country singer and has had tremendous success. This is one of my favorite “current” country songs and it won a Grammy.



And the comments have some of the fewest racist posts I have ever seen on YouTube, which should be surprising given the content. Country fans feel Darius is genuine to the genre.

I personally like pushing genra boundaries, but I don’t think the lack of acceptance so far for this artist is racist.


Darius Rucker? LOL

You do realize Rucker was in a popular band called Hootie & the Blowfish and then tried to become a solo R&B artist and failed. He was already established before charting as a country music artist.

It is like a contestant on American Idol or the Voice that already had a record deal previously.
 
Darius Rucker? LOL

You do realize Rucker was in a popular band called Hootie & the Blowfish and then tried to become a solo R&B artist and failed. He was already established before charting as a country music artist.

It is like a contestant on American Idol or the Voice that already had a record deal previously.

I have followed him his whole career. But we are talking about being accepted by country fans and all those things you listed would work against him. He would be less likely to be taken seriously as a country artist coming from the other genres. But he sounds country enough that he was accepted. People like me listen to all genres, but you don’t rise to the top of country charts without impressing a bunch of people who ONLY listen to country.
 
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