Please explain to me why Trump is horrible....

Rising Sun said:

No “news shows” are unbiased, but there are news services that are unbiased as previously posted at this link: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/center/

The media is a business that competes for customers which, in turn, allow them to demand more money for advertising. A fun thing to do is to watch a show for half an hour or more and judge what demographic they are trying to sell to. Fox has selling gold and Wound Warriors, CNN has animal shelters and reverse mortgages. Go figure, eh?

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I don't watch a of of FOX outside of "The 5". FOX Business has some news also, but covers the market moves. That's far more interesting to me.

Advertisements on FOX Business at the time of the Markets' Close each day include upscale cars, investment options and other things like that. They also run those commercials with the beleaguered dogs that make you want to cry.

The posted link seems to reflect the way I feel about the media sources "leans" with which I am familiar. This is an impressively long listing. This listing at least seems to be fair and balanced.

Anyway, watching the FBN, there is a definite correlation between the rises and falls of the stock market and the rises and falls of Trump's political fortunes. When things look bad for Trump, it's likely the DJIA is going to drop. Conversely, when Trump is doing well, it seems like the markets are, too.

I don't know if there is a causation either way there, but there does seem to be a correlation.

Gg

code1211 said:

....Anyway, watching the FBN, there is a definite correlation between the rises and falls of the stock market and the rises and falls of Trump's political fortunes. When things look bad for Trump, it's likely the DJIA is going to drop. Conversely, when Trump is doing well, it seems like the markets are, too.

I don't know if there is a causation either way there, but there does seem to be a correlation.

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Of course there’s a correlation. If the Iranians sank a ship in the Straits of Hormuz, there’d be a stock market reaction just like there was when Trump Tweeted “I’m the TARIFF MAN!”

<alt>doxygen said:

I actually experienced a party line as a kid in my dad's rural hometown. Weird...

Einstein types with today's processing power at their fingertips is really an intriguing thought, although there are extremely smart folks out there now as well.

I started work in the 1980's, just as PC's were starting to become something of a consumer product. One of my first jobs included working on (fixing) huge mainframes like the IBM 370. Then I got into telecom. Every tech front has seen incredible advancement since those days.

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That's an interesting observation. I wonder if Einstein would have been so monumentally noticeable if there was an internet and high speed communication at that time.

If ideas grow and evolve in a discussion on line, will a single genius level intellect gain the notoriety of an Einstein?

I watched a show on Einstein and his E=MC2 thingy and it was interesting how it was communicated, debated and tested over years. Years!

Emails and satellites would have shortened that review to about one afternoon of hot debate. May have left time for a stop at the hair stylist...

Rising Sun said:

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Of course there’s a correlation. If the Iranians sank a ship in the Straits of Hormuz, there’d be a stock market reaction just like there was when Trump Tweeted “I’m the TARIFF MAN!”

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There is that...

What I was referring to, though, was a correlation to Trump looking to be in trouble as a result of any rumor de jour over the last couple years.

Recently the markets seems to be swinging wildly on the machine trading and odd "algo's". Through 2017 and about half of 2018, it seemed like the markets were twitching based on Stormy or Mueller or Comey or Anenatti inspired media attacks.

I think it's funny that the revered Special Counsel and the Porn Star are team mates in this. When you lay down with dogs, you stand up with fleas.

Sampson Simpson said:

A thread about Trump, deflecting to Hillary and Clintons, and telling others to take of their blinders.

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For those who think that having a President who is corrupt is somehow new, or that Trump being in hoc to foreign financial interests is somehow unique, yes, it's important to remember that we've been here before. Certainly it's not right for either of them, but it's also nothing new.

Forking hysterical!

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Nah. Just human to forget the abuses of your own side, while focusing on the other's.

Sampson Simpson said:

Why do trolls even bother? This post is just so forking dumb that nobody would even take a bite out of your flamebait, that's how dumb and obvious it is

More conservatives hypocrites with their faux outrage and pretending they have any morals and standards.

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At least most Christians, even if not necessarily conservatives, oppose homosexual sexual assaults and perversion. That makes them more moral on that than most democrats and leftist liberals.

TheGoverness said:

You think liberals can't back up their positions? Plenty of liberal-minded people on here do, including myself. Hell, a lot of people, both let and right, can defend their positions here for the most part. Besides the usual suspects who aren't here to do that.

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I understand that. I was referring to the fact that he made it sound like that ONLY liberals back up their positions. Which is bull****. Conservatives back up their positions too.

Rising Sun said:

"suspicious activities" under the Patriot Act.

What fear mongering?

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A standard would be needed for such an arrest at this point.

"shot at a whim" ring any bells.

marke said:

At least most Christians, even if not necessarily conservatives, oppose homosexual sexual assaults and perversion. That makes them more moral on that than most democrats and leftist liberals.

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Basically what you just said by omission and/or inversion is that you are all for heterosexual sexual assault and that because you like such crimes, this makes you more moral than others.

I haven't had a chance to read the whole thread yet, but I thought of starting one that read:

TRUMP IS JUST ANOTHER REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT

Or, to put it another way, all the fiery rhetoric about his racism and his vulgarity overlooks the fact that most of his policies are what you would expect of any contemporary Republican president.

enderpotato00 said:

I get it all the time that Trump is horrible and will ruin America. Can you please explain why? Actual answers, not talking points please.

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I don't understand how people can honestly be asking this.

We've had numerous reports of his own staff questioning his mental stability. Numerous reports that they ignore his orders because they are clearly unlawful or down right dangerous. Numerous reports that they don't show him certain proposals that he requests because he won't read the associated binder of material that tells us why we should do that proposal. A senior official in his own administration wrote an op-ed to let the american people know that they are working hard to make sure that they "preserve our democratic institutions". He has trashed our intelligence communities and brought in to question the entirety of our justice system as no one has before him. The fbi, the cia, judges, prosecutors all of them are now just a part of a deep state conspiracy theory. He doesn't read his briefings, he bases decisions more off of opinion tv shows than intelligence briefings and advisors etc. etc. etc. I could literally go on til my fingers bleed.

You are asking americans why we are worried about Trump when the very people that he hand picked to be in his cabinet are trying to assure us that they are doing what they can to protect us from his immoral whims.