I got the flu shot, what did I get?

ataraxia said:

We don’t even know what exactly is in a Tylenol tablet or an antibiotic pill. We don’t know what preservatives they have used in our morning cereal. We don’t know exactly all the details of how a car, airplane, computer, or cell phone work. At some point, we just use things, with some faith that the experts in all these different fields know what they are doing. And it helps to have some good systems of regulation and oversight as well. The modern world is very complex and technical, and there are not enough hours in the day or days in the year to figure it all out by yourself. That doesn’t make us sheep.

If you really have the time, patience, and disposition, you could try to figure out all those technical details for yourself. The information is out there and not that hard to access. But life is too short. Stop being so paranoid and cynical,and go out and enjoy.

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There are shadowy groups within the myriad of different intelligence agencies and in the military, who have been researching, developing and experimenting with all sorts of extreme technologies that the average citizen has NO IDEA of. We already know that these groups have been trying to develop the ability to control or influence the minds of humans. They've been working on it since the 1950s, and not just on 1 level or 1 technology. They were experimenting with hallucinogenic drugs as far back as the mid 60s as a potential mind control/mind influencing option. But all along they were working on 'other' means of accomplishing it. You hear about the "trillions of dollars of unaccounted for revenue". You can bet your entire family's lives on the fact that some of this 'missing money' was spent on covert technology.


I remember a Star Trek Next Gen episode where Picard was covertly captured by some Cardassians. They had an interogation 'specialist' attach an electronic neck band around Picard's neck, which could remotely cause differing levels of physical pain at the touch of a button. The bulky, gaudy looking 'torture neck band with remote control' was supposed to be 24th century technology.

But it didn't take 300+ years to develop the ability to remotely cause pain, or influence thought and decision making, AND it doesn't require a gaudy neck band or a goofy remote control. They already have the technology to artificially reproduce any type of pain imaginable, in any part of the body they choose, at varying levels of intensity. They can remotely, artificially cause all sorts of other physical symptoms, including extreme tiredness, profuse sweating, even when the subject(victim) is in a cool environment. Also, they can turn on or off your tear, nasal fluid and saliva production for as long as they choose! They can cause you to feel an artificial feeling of tickling in your throat OR nasal passages, which immediately causes minor or moderate or even severe coughing and/or sneezing. They can cause itchiness anywhere on your body. They can cause burning sensations. They can cause bluriness in your vision. They can cause your eyeballs to NEVER stop rolling around in your eye sockets ANYTIME you close your eyes and try to sleep. They can cause your muscles to gently or severely pulse, so that when you rest your body, or just an arm or leg on your bed, soda etc, it feels as if the part of your body that's resting on the bed or chair is continuously moving up and down against that surface. They can cause your physical energy to plummet so low that just walking, or even standing up straight feels like such a chore! There's a LOT more symptoms that I'll list in a separate thread at a later date.

When you've got the richest country in the world, and a near unlimited secret budget of tens, hundreds of billions, or maybe even trillions of dollars AND you've got MANY separate companies/university research labs/govt research labs, AND unlimited numbers of scientists, AND you've got 60+ years of time to do it all, it shouldn't be surprising that they can do these things!!

noonereal said:

What a society of sheep we are. Government tells us to get a flu shot (not the best solution to flu to start with) and we go.

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In other words, you are another anti vaccine nut case. All the information you claim you requested is readily available from medical providers, doctors, pharmacists, clinics, hospitals. You lie. There are only three forms of the vaccine available in the US, one for children under age 12, one for those aged between 12 through 55, one for those aged greater than 55. The differences between them, the carrying agents as such effect each group. Average protection translates as 20-22%. 3% of all vaccinated have negative reactions, usually a mild form of antibody buildup that feels like a strong cold. It is estimated that 60% of those who do not receive the vaccine, may not suffer the symptoms but will carry the disease to others. In other words you are promoting infection of many by one. Sleep well tonight knowing you are like contributing to the suffering of others and likely the deaths of those who are vulnerable.

We can only hope that you suffered the Chicken Pox as a child, and your refusal to accept the value of vaccines contributes to your future experiences with Shingles.

I posted among an elite group of rocket scientists. I had no clue.

Thanks for all the replies!

God bless you all.

noonereal said:

I posted among an elite group of rocket scientists. I had no clue.

Thanks for all the replies!

God bless you all.

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Thanks. Agreed.

You’re welcome.

Thanks! You too. Best of luck in the future.

Rising Sun said:

Sorry, but I doubet facts from the CDC are going to influence someone who has repeatedly declared flu shots don't work.

Like seat belt and motorcycle helmet laws, I disagree on making vaccinations and any other preventive medical procedures mandatory. It's evolution in action. While I wish no harm to someone, if they voluntarily remove themselves from the gene pool, I won't be saddened by their demise....especially before they breed.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/keyfacts.htm

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I am definitely of the mind that there are FAR more humans on the earth than there should be. We need population control in every society. But I don't agree with your logic there. Just because one person 'may' be more likely to come down with the flu than someone else, doesn't necessarily mean they have better genes. Some people are more susceptible to one illness, but less susceptible to others. I have only had a few flu shots in my life, and haven't had one in at least 2-3 years, but regardless of whether I get a flu shot or not, I still don't get the flu. But back in the 80s & 90s, I had strep throat probably 2-3 times. They stopped removing tonsils as a remedy to strep, so I've still got mine, but I haven't had strep again. I don't get colds either. So according to your health = genetics theory, I should be further up the 'valuable gene pool chart'. But I also have moderately freckled skin, and I burn more than tan. I have to wear boots with good ankle support when I hike or walk on rocky terrain, due to weaker than average ankles. I look younger than I am, but I've got skinny legs despite having an extra 10lbs of weight in my mid section. So regardless of my resistance to illness, I still have some physical imperfections. But I've seen people who have more 'ideal' physical proportions than i, who get colds periodically. So who's genes are more worthy of survival?

Oh yeah, I've owned 2 motorcycles, and we don't have helmet laws in this state(they do in neighboring states though). Regardless of the lack of a helmet law, I still wore a helmet pretty much every time I ever rode my bike. I'm on the fence as far as helmet laws go, but if it's ok to mandate safety measures like seat belts, I kinda think it's probably ok to mandate helmet laws as well.