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Is pornography THAT bad???

Atheist 2020 said:
1.)It was not unto the 1990's that Saint John Paul II accepted the science fact, that earth goes around the sun as being true to the Catholic faith. And the actions of the Catholic faith attacking the earth going around the sun was a error of the church. Like you, it will take centuries to convinced of a science fact.

2.) My argument is going to be with the lesbian community within the LGBT community. The American and Canadian lesbian community is making strong inroads with being accepted into mainstream media and mainstream community. They are not selling lesbian porn movies at 2 for $10 of a DVD movie to be accepted into the mainstream of the Christian community or the mainstream of non gay and non lesbian people. If it was logical that lesbian porn movies are a positive to be accepted into the mainstream, it would have been done decades ago. In the lesbian community that has moved into the mainstream of social and cultural, are not pushing to have non gay and non lesbian to watch porn lesbian movies. In fact, it would drive them out of the mainstream and push them back years if they did so.
3.)There is a sex market with topless bars and adult bookstores with porn movies and books. That community is not in the socially accepted culture we have today. In fact, a lesbian working in the workforce today is more accepted, then a man that talks about his collection of lesbian porn movies. In fact, to be logical to find a troubled employee, a married lesbian that gets along with other women and does not talk about her personal sex life in detail is more accepted then a man watching porn. A unmarried male that talks about his collection of lesbian porn movies, would trouble the women workforce, as a man thinking of two women being compared to have sex with each other. Logic, who is the more troubled worker, the lesbian or the man watching lesbian porn movies. Clearly, the man.
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1.) nope im a science guy im an engineer. So far you provided ZERO facts, science or basic common sense and logic to support your claim. we are waiting.
2.) LMAO nothing you said there supports your statement and makes it true . . . nothing
3.) Wow . . just wow . . again NOTHING in that statment supports your claim and make it rational . . ill ask you AGAIN

this was your statement:
"if another 52 year old male is watching porn: I would say he does not have a healthy relationship with women. If you are a male watching lesbian porn, your really have a poor relationships with women."

Im asking you what logic or facts do you base that on because i dont see any supportable ones at all
 
AGENT J said:
1.) nope im a science guy im an engineer. So far you provided ZERO facts, science or basic common sense and logic to support your claim. we are waiting.
2.) LMAO nothing you said there supports your statement and makes it true . . . nothing
3.) Wow . . just wow . . again NOTHING in that statment supports your claim and make it rational . . ill ask you AGAIN

this was your statement:
"if another 52 year old male is watching porn: I would say he does not have a healthy relationship with women. If you are a male watching lesbian porn, your really have a poor relationships with women."

Im asking you what logic or facts do you base that on because i dont see any supportable ones at all
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I have to ask, do you have a vast amount of lesbian porn movies? Your really over protesting that porn is good for society. With your over protesting that porn is good, your really the type that does not adopt well when confronted with hard counter facts. More people died on the HMS Titanic because the first life boats were half full because they were told that the ship was unsinkable.

William F Buckley Jr. "Never debate with a amateur" You sir is just a amateur and I will treat you like so. So, go along and enjoy your lesbian porn movies.
 
Juniper said:
I know of which I speak and do not back down one iota. If I had the power, I'd personally destroy every bit of pornography in existence. And since we both acknowledge our freedom to feel as we do, I will stop here.
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*whew*

Porn is safe from you destroying it, then? :lol:
 
Atheist 2020 said:
1.)I have to ask, do you have a vast amount of lesbian porn movies?
2.) Your really over protesting that porn is good for society.
3.) With your over protesting that porn is good, your really the type that does not adopt well when confronted with hard counter facts.
4.) More people died on the HMS Titanic because the first life boats were half full because they were told that the ship was unsinkable.
5.)William F Buckley Jr. "Never debate with a amateur" You sir is just a amateur and I will treat you like so. So, go along and enjoy your lesbian porn movies.
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1.) I have no lesbian movies
2.) actually i havent done that ONCE, seems you have a habit of making stuff up. i simply asked you to support YOUR STATEMENT with anything logical and rational and so far you cant do it
3.) what hard facts? you haven't provided any that support your statement . . .please do so now, i keep asking and you keep dodging and running for all to see
4.) meaningless deflection that STILL doesnt provided support for your claim
5.) translation: your claim got its ass handed to itself so you continue to deflect dodge and run away because you got nothing LMAO

heres YOUR STASTMENT
"if another 52 year old male is watching porn: I would say he does not have a healthy relationship with women. If you are a male watching lesbian porn, your really have a poor relationships with women."
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now heres your choices

A.) post with integrity and honesty and admit to the fact you have nothing reasonable, logical or rational to support that claim and make it true (hint: this is your best option)
B.) provide something honest, logical, rational and with intellectual merit that supports your claims (hint: we all ready know this cant be done so avoid this one)
c.) Continue to dodge and deny the fact your claim is unsupportable and double down your retarded claim and continue to have it exposed for the nonsensical drivel it was (Hint: this is the one i hope you do but for your sake of integrity its not recommend)

We'll be waiting, please pick one and let us know, thanks!
 
Juniper said:
Porn is highly addictive, so it's unlikely he will tire of it. Most people need outside help to rid themselves of the addiction. Plus it is demeaning and to many people it is disgusting and lewd, and is known to (in many cases) lead to more extreme behavior. It's an insidious industry that tries to sneak around the filters so to ensnare more customers, including children. It's one thing to be in a marriage that you believed was based on mutual values and another thing to be aware of each other's behavior and habits beforehand. I don't blame her a bit.
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Porn is addictive? No more than music videos or hanging on your smart phone. There is no real evidence that watching a couple hours of porn makes one jump up and rush out to rape, murder, and rob.

In short, there is little evidence in what you assert that can be shown to be true. Obsession can be a problem, but that is all obsession, not a single facet.
 
jimbo said:
Porn is addictive? No more than music videos or hanging on your smart phone. There is no real evidence that watching a couple hours of porn makes one jump up and rush out to rape, murder, and rob.

In short, there is little evidence in what you assert that can be shown to be true. Obsession can be a problem, but that is all obsession, not a single facet.
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Porn is not going to make you a rapist, more or less with watching porn. In my view and the view of the mainstream community, being a male and watching countless hours of lesbian porn you have a backward and negative view of the mainstream lesbian community. And if you also watch gay porn, you have a backwards and negative views of gay men. The mainstream gay and lesbian community is not and have not pushed people to watch porn movies.
 
AGENT J said:
1.) I have no lesbian movies
2.) actually i havent done that ONCE, seems you have a habit of making stuff up. i simply asked you to support YOUR STATEMENT with anything logical and rational and so far you cant do it
3.) what hard facts? you haven't provided any that support your statement . . .please do so now, i keep asking and you keep dodging and running for all to see
4.) meaningless deflection that STILL doesnt provided support for your claim
5.) translation: your claim got its ass handed to itself so you continue to deflect dodge and run away because you got nothing LMAO

heres YOUR STASTMENT


now heres your choices

A.) post with integrity and honesty and admit to the fact you have nothing reasonable, logical or rational to support that claim and make it true (hint: this is your best option)
B.) provide something honest, logical, rational and with intellectual merit that supports your claims (hint: we all ready know this cant be done so avoid this one)
c.) Continue to dodge and deny the fact your claim is unsupportable and double down your retarded claim and continue to have it exposed for the nonsensical drivel it was (Hint: this is the one i hope you do but for your sake of integrity its not recommend)

We'll be waiting, please pick one and let us know, thanks!
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You are making a counter argument that you yourself have thousands of dollars of porn movies. Since I made my argument and you have rejected it, makes it more clear and president your covering up with your vast collection of porn movies, lesbian and gay porn movies as well. Reason you have rejected my argument, because it looks to be more clear you have a large abnormal amount of porn movies. You are making yourself look to be a closed door pervert with a number of underage child porn movies. The more you protest, the more rational it is to say your into child porn.
 
Atheist 2020 said:
You are making a counter argument that you yourself have thousands of dollars of porn movies.
Since I made my argument and you have rejected it, makes it more clear and president your covering up with your vast collection of porn movies, lesbian and gay porn movies as well. Reason you have rejected my argument, because it looks to be more clear you have a large abnormal amount of porn movies. You are making yourself look to be a closed door pervert with a number of underage child porn movies. The more you protest, the more rational it is to say your into child porn.
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LAMO and you choose C, "Continue to dodge and deny the fact your claim is unsupportable, double down your retarded claim and continue to have it exposed for the nonsensical drivel it was" Awesome just what I wanted . .
Ill ask you AGAIN :)

heres YOUR STATEMENT
"if another 52 year old male is watching porn: I would say he does not have a healthy relationship with women. If you are a male watching lesbian porn, your really have a poor relationships with women."
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now heres your choices

Please let us know when you can use rational logic and reason to support your claim and post that evidence, thanks
 
AGENT J said:
LAMO and you choose C, "Continue to dodge and deny the fact your claim is unsupportable, double down your retarded claim and continue to have it exposed for the nonsensical drivel it was" Awesome just what I wanted . .
Ill ask you AGAIN :)

heres YOUR STATEMENT

now heres your choices

Please let us know when you can use rational logic and reason to support your claim and post that evidence, thanks
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If your the same age as myself, and you are watching porn movies, your really do not have a healthy relationship with women. I am a married man, and have a great and productive relationship with my wife and with my three daughters. I do not see the need or wish to be watching porn, or the need or wish to be visiting topless bars. If my relationship was so poor with my wife, that I need to be watching porn or visiting topless bars. I would say she has good reason to file for divorce. Now, there are a number of men that watch porn with their wife and take their wife to a topless bar. Really, is that really a healthy relationship or really a move to control the wife to be passive to the wishes of the man.

Back to you. Why are you so protesting about the positive viewpoints of watching porn as a adult. Is it because you have thousands of dollars tied up in porn movies? Is it the fact that you as a adult does not have a wife? Or is it the fact your tied up with have thousands of dollars tied up in child porn? You have been protesting very much and have not answer this basic fact. Why do you support adults watching porn so much. I believe there is a problem with you, could be a illegal activity your engaged in. You have become a creepy human being. In fact, have become a negative acting male without any practical grounding.
 
Atheist 2020 said:
1.)If your the same age as myself, and you are watching porn movies, your really do not have a healthy relationship with women.
2.) I am a married man, and have a great and productive relationship with my wife and with my three daughters. I do not see the need or wish to be watching porn, or the need or wish to be visiting topless bars. If my relationship was so poor with my wife, that I need to be watching porn or visiting topless bars. I would say she has good reason to file for divorce. Now, there are a number of men that watch porn with their wife and take their wife to a topless bar. Really, is that really a healthy relationship or really a move to control the wife to be passive to the wishes of the man.
3.)Back to you. Why are you so protesting about the positive viewpoints of watching porn as a adult. Is it because you have thousands of dollars tied up in porn movies? Is it the fact that you as a adult does not have a wife? Or is it the fact your tied up with have thousands of dollars tied up in child porn? You have been protesting very much and have not answer this basic fact. Why do you support adults watching porn so much. I believe there is a problem with you, could be a illegal activity your engaged in. You have become a creepy human being. In fact, have become a negative acting male without any practical grounding.
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1.) yes you stated that opinion before im asking you to rationally support that claim with something intellectually sound.
2.) what do those subjective feelings have to do with your unsupportable claim? oh thats right . . nothing... instead of deflecting it would be great if you just answered the question
3.) this lie failed the first time you tried it and it will fail again LMAO . .i simply asked YOU to support YOUR claim and so far you got nothing, zero, zilch :)

now ill ask you AGAIN, please support your statement below with something logic, rational and based on intellectual merit, thanks!
"if another 52 year old male is watching porn: I would say he does not have a healthy relationship with women. If you are a male watching lesbian porn, your really have a poor relationships with women."
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AGENT J said:
1.) yes you stated that opinion before im asking you to rationally support that claim with something intellectually sound.
2.) what do those subjective feelings have to do with your unsupportable claim? oh thats right . . nothing... instead of deflecting it would be great if you just answered the question
3.) this lie failed the first time you tried it and it will fail again LMAO . .i simply asked YOU to support YOUR claim and so far you got nothing, zero, zilch :)

now ill ask you AGAIN, please support your statement below with something logic, rational and based on intellectual merit, thanks!
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Have you not forgotten, your the only rational and intellectual person ever to be alive. Sorry, your not. You have become a troll and I am tired of feeding a troll.
 
Atheist 2020 said:
1.)Have you not forgotten, your the only rational and intellectual person ever to be alive. Sorry, your not.
2.) You have become a troll and I am tired of feeding a troll.
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1.) i didnt say that either, seems you keep making stuff up to try and deflect from the fact you cant support your claim, it wont work :shrug:
2.) translation: you cant support your failed claim so you resort to personal attacks, deflections and runway way, LMAO thats what I thought!

When that fact changes please let us know when you can support your your statement below with something logic, rational and based on intellectual merit, thanks!
 
AGENT J said:
1.) i didnt say that either, seems you keep making stuff up to try and deflect from the fact you cant support your claim, it wont work :shrug:
2.) translation: you cant support your failed claim so you resort to personal attacks, deflections and runway way, LMAO thats what I thought!

When that fact changes please let us know when you can support your your statement below with something logic, rational and based on intellectual merit, thanks!
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Since you made yourself the judge of the matter, nobody and not me can convince you otherwise. You keep judging me, and you find it unfair that I cannot judge you back. Proves to me you have a bias and acting like a troll. Your judgement, I cannot make a rational argument, so why do you keep asking. Why make a statement when you already decided the outcome?
 
Atheist 2020 said:
Since you made yourself the judge of the matter, nobody and not me can convince you otherwise. You keep judging me, and you find it unfair that I cannot judge you back. Proves to me you have a bias and acting like a troll. Your judgement, I cannot make a rational argument, so why do you keep asking. Why make a statement when you already decided the outcome?
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aaaaaand ANOTHER failed dodge and deflection but still NOTHING to support your claim LMAO
We are still waiting, please let us know when you can support your your statement below with something logic, rational and based on intellectual merit, thanks!
 
Atheist 2020 said:
I have to ask, do you have a vast amount of lesbian porn movies?
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You're asking if he has "a big box of porn?"

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