my favorite has always been the .22 single shot/bolt that I learned to shoot with at age 6. It was my Dad's; my brother has it & we shoot it when I visit
Shooting that .22 almost makes me feel like I'm 6 years old again but then when I look in a mirror :shock: .......... :lamo ..........
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Lots of interesting ahhhh opinions on suppressors here, I wonder just how many have actually fired rifles with a suppressor attached, much less at game animals like feral hogs....
First the suppressor does nothing for the supersonic crack but that crack depends a lot on velocity as it passes the listener, the distance away from the listener and frankly is rather like the sound of a 30 cal bullet hitting flesh and bone. The hog you hit will never know what happened, and unless the rest of the passel has heard suppressed weapons before they jump and flinch a bit but seem to take it in stride, especially at night (Texas allows night hunting of ferals) Now the bullet slap is pretty intense at ranges under 300 yards with a 308/7.62. With my unsuppressed Mauser I can hear the bullet ravel downrange AND the loud smack of the bullet striking home.
One benefit no one seems to have noticed is recoil is really reduced, more so than many muzzle brakes. Great for follow up shots with semi rifles. They do get pretty damned hot on the practice range and many a 'high speed' cover has charred or melted to the can.
Ummm if you do a little research you can get adapters on both rifles and switch the suppressor back and forth with ease....
The accuracy isn't affected if the installation is true to the bore- issues arise when the suppressor is slanted ever so slightly and the bullet strikes the plates inside the tube. Shop the work around.
Good luck...
Lots of interesting ahhhh opinions on suppressors here, I wonder just how many have actually fired rifles with a suppressor attached, much less at game animals like feral hogs....
First the suppressor does nothing for the supersonic crack but that crack depends a lot on velocity as it passes the listener, the distance away from the listener and frankly is rather like the sound of a 30 cal bullet hitting flesh and bone. The hog you hit will never know what happened, and unless the rest of the passel has heard suppressed weapons before they jump and flinch a bit but seem to take it in stride, especially at night (Texas allows night hunting of ferals) Now the bullet slap is pretty intense at ranges under 300 yards with a 308/7.62. With my unsuppressed Mauser I can hear the bullet ravel downrange AND the loud smack of the bullet striking home.
One benefit no one seems to have noticed is recoil is really reduced, more so than many muzzle brakes. Great for follow up shots with semi rifles. They do get pretty damned hot on the practice range and many a 'high speed' cover has charred or melted to the can.
Ummm if you do a little research you can get adapters on both rifles and switch the suppressor back and forth with ease....
The accuracy isn't affected if the installation is true to the bore- issues arise when the suppressor is slanted ever so slightly and the bullet strikes the plates inside the tube. Shop the work around.
Good luck...
eace
Just outta curiosity why 200 grain and why Lapua? I used an old British sniper rifle barrel with a 1 in 12, it stabilized a 168gr out to 600 yards at 1200' asl. Just as an aside it isn't weight of bullet but length, some lighter VLD bullets are harder to stabilize as they are longer than more traditional shaped bullets...
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Don't overthink this, 18" is a real handy length, more than long enough. I own an LTR 308 with an 18" barrel so I have an idea of what 18" can do. There are plenty of videos online that show a barrel being cut back to 12" and the velocities measured. You're not gaining much in stability by wishing for a longer barrel, throw a can on that length and you are very front heavy and that leads to barrel droop as the barrel heats up during practice. There are videos of that online as well.
(Secret shooter hint- EVERY name brand bullet out there is 'reliable' at lower velocities.)
I use Hornady 168/150, 170 lappy, Sierras, old Nosler J4s , from 150 fmj to 220 VLDs... from 2200fps to 3100 fps. Obviously the heavier bullets don't move at 3,100 fps in my rifles due to pressure issues. Stability issues occur downrange- not at the muzzle. Set-up a series of targets from 50yds to however far you can- I shoot to 1,000 yds, I hunt to 500. I like the 150 to 170 range with the Amax my fav for deer/coyotes and the 170 FMJ lappy for tougher feral hogs. (everyone has a fav for any game- I like FMJ for pigs and anything over 150 with 168/170 being the sweet spot for me.)
Do some practical exercises before deciding what you read online is true. Old Japanese proverb, a man who believes everything he reads shouldn't read...
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Just outta curiosity why 200 grain and why Lapua? I used an old British sniper rifle barrel with a 1 in 12, it stabilized a 168gr out to 600 yards at 1200' asl. Just as an aside it isn't weight of bullet but length, some lighter VLD bullets are harder to stabilize as they are longer than more traditional shaped bullets...
Don't overthink this, 18" is a real handy length, more than long enough. I own an LTR 308 with an 18" barrel so I have an idea of what 18" can do. There are plenty of videos online that show a barrel being cut back to 12" and the velocities measured. You're not gaining much in stability by wishing for a longer barrel, throw a can on that length and you are very front heavy and that leads to barrel droop as the barrel heats up during practice. There are videos of that online as well.
(Secret shooter hint- EVERY name brand bullet out there is 'reliable' at lower velocities.)
I use Hornady 168/150, 170 lappy, Sierras, old Nosler J4s , from 150 fmj to 220 VLDs... from 2200fps to 3100 fps. Obviously the heavier bullets don't move at 3,100 fps in my rifles due to pressure issues. Stability issues occur downrange- not at the muzzle. Set-up a series of targets from 50yds to however far you can- I shoot to 1,000 yds, I hunt to 500. I like the 150 to 170 range with the Amax my fav for deer/coyotes and the 170 FMJ lappy for tougher feral hogs. (everyone has a fav for any game- I like FMJ for pigs and anything over 150 with 168/170 being the sweet spot for me.)
Do some practical exercises before deciding what you read online is true. Old Japanese proverb, a man who believes everything he reads shouldn't read...
Couple of things-
First learn to reload, cuts the cost of shooting dramatically. I COULD use 46 grains of Varget to push my 168gr Amax/170 FMJ Lappys bullets in Rem/Win/Hornady brass. I use 44 grains and deer/coyotes/feral hogs don't seem offended by the reduced load. It reduces recoil and muzzle blast, increases brass life.
Next to increase Length of Pull on the carbine stocked LTR I use a slip on recoil pad and that is a great help all the way round.
Another trick for recoil sensitivity is a piece of foam ground pad cut like a kidney bean, a blast of spray adhesive and then slipping it under your shirt over your collar bone. Works wonders and much cheaper than a specialized shooter's jacket.
Enjoy...
