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I hate druggies

PleasantValley said:
...or he has an unwritten deal with the cops, and so felt emboldened knowing nothing would happen to him.
Which, of course, nothing did.
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unwritten deal? No. This guy was a dirtbag who tossed racial slurs at one of the cops, threatened her and refused to comply. Only talked to the white male cops.

Just another racist dirtbag.
 
<alt>doxygen said:
I actually stayed away from everything but pot and beer when I was young, though I did eventually end up taking acid about 20 times over a 2-3 year period. I stopped weed for about 15-20 years without even realizing I was doing it until I was 4 years in.

At this point I have a need for opioids. I've been taking them since 1998 following a cervical laminectomy (5 levels). I take as little as I can and I've never been close to addicted. Most days I have a problem I can keep it to 5mg or so. Now that medical weed is legal here I've been using some strong indicas in place of the narcs. In truth, the cannabis causes me as many side effects as the narcs, so I go back and forth between them.

I have also seen people who did drugs and couldn't stop, and I have a couple of acquaintances that have serious gambling issues. I could see the predisposition in all of them. If a dude does a line of coke and then goes Scarface until the ATM says no more, there's a problem. Same with someone who goes to Atlantic City to gamble for the afternoon and next thing he knows it's 4am.

I also have to say that the number one killers of people in my life have been alcohol and tobacco.
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Wow - we're like mirror images, almost.
All through my youth and even today, I've never been able to do much more than lightly dabble with booze and pot.
Both are just too strong for me, I turn into a blithering idiot on a single glass of wine, and a single bong hit can either put me to sleep or make me too paranoid, or I wind up staring into space for five hours.
For me, opioids are particularly unpleasant, too.

On the other hand, the moment I discovered cocaine, it was like I'd discovered Mother's milk.
At first, back in the 70's, I just dabbled. It was too expensive and I just never was very interested anyway, but it was pleasant.
Then I married a Hollywood starlet who was a raging addict, I went full blast, eventually "graduating" from coke to crack in a ten year nightmare journey to Hell. It was the 1994 Northridge Quake, which wiped out everything for me, that served as a signal to stop, or die.
By 1995, after falling off the wagon a couple of times, I was clean.
Still a lightweight on the booze and pot thing, I just am not cut out to be a pothead, LOL.
I occasionally have a tiny nibble on an edible to help insomnia.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Wow - we're like mirror images, almost.
All through my youth and even today, I've never been able to do much more than lightly dabble with booze and pot.
Both are just too strong for me, I turn into a blithering idiot on a single glass of wine, and a single bong hit can either put me to sleep or make me too paranoid, or I wind up staring into space for five hours.
For me, opioids are particularly unpleasant, too.

On the other hand, the moment I discovered cocaine, it was like I'd discovered Mother's milk.
At first, back in the 70's, I just dabbled. It was too expensive and I just never was very interested anyway, but it was pleasant.
Then I married a Hollywood starlet who was a raging addict, I went full blast, eventually "graduating" from coke to crack in a ten year nightmare journey to Hell. It was the 1994 Northridge Quake, which wiped out everything for me, that served as a signal to stop, or die.
By 1995, after falling off the wagon a couple of times, I was clean.
Still a lightweight on the booze and pot thing, I just am not cut out to be a pothead, LOL.
I occasionally have a tiny nibble on an edible to help insomnia.
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That's an interesting genetic formulation you got going on there. Alcohol and weed seem to be the two most common drugs that do it for people (not going to get all straight-edge here and say coffee is a drug). Cocaine makes your heart leap out of your chest, which was your jam, yet milder substances like alcohol were too stimulating.

I've never found opiates to be fun when I actually had a legitimate reason to take them. Like after surgery, I was such a wreck for 3 weeks, that taking the prescribed 10mg Vicodin just made me feel worse. Even though I literally bleeding for a week while my wound healed, the opiates just made me nauseous. Now when I'm in a perfect state of health, that's a different story. A couple of Norcos, some loud rock n roll, and I'm feeling like I'm Jimi Hendrix circa '68 kissin' the sky in that purple haze.

But addiction runs in my family, so I keep that **** on lock down. Haven't done opiates in a year, still have a big stash that I'll probably never touch, or just save for a rainy day. Or many rainy days.
 
<alt>doxygen said:
I actually stayed away from everything but pot and beer when I was young, though I did eventually end up taking acid about 20 times over a 2-3 year period. I stopped weed for about 15-20 years without even realizing I was doing it until I was 4 years in.

At this point I have a need for opioids. I've been taking them since 1998 following a cervical laminectomy (5 levels). I take as little as I can and I've never been close to addicted. Most days I have a problem I can keep it to 5mg or so. Now that medical weed is legal here I've been using some strong indicas in place of the narcs. In truth, the cannabis causes me as many side effects as the narcs, so I go back and forth between them.

I have also seen people who did drugs and couldn't stop, and I have a couple of acquaintances that have serious gambling issues. I could see the predisposition in all of them. If a dude does a line of coke and then goes Scarface until the ATM says no more, there's a problem. Same with someone who goes to Atlantic City to gamble for the afternoon and next thing he knows it's 4am.

I also have to say that the number one killers of people in my life have been alcohol and tobacco.
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I'm curious if you've noticed any changes in how your doctor deals with prescribing you opiates? I've heard that some people with legit reasons to need them have been cut off, or made to jump through hoops like monthly drug tests. This sucks because there's people gobbling 1000 pills a week and knocking over their grannies trailer to get money for drugs, and then there's people like you who use moderation to treat an actual medical issue. Some doctors tend to view everyone as an addict now.
 
I don't hate them, I just feel incredibly sad knowing how much of a terrible impact the use some drugs can have, not only on users, but on families, Paramedics, Police Departments, Welfare agencies, Health practitioners and the wider Community in general.

I've seen a big increase in the last few years with incidents related to violence associated with addicts. Awful.
 
Dittohead not! said:
I'll try to remember that if I'm ever attacked. It makes a lot of sense. I remember once stepping up on a round rock that rolled just enough that my foot went out from under me and I fell on my shin on the rock. Not a life threatening injury, but I was definitely out of commission for a while.
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Right. They may not be life threatening, but you remember them for a very long time because they hurt so much.
Takes the fight right out of them, no matter how big or how muscle bound they are.
There is nothing protecting the shins at all but a thin layer of skin.

There was a reason warriors of old wore padded grieves.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Why does this make you want to insult people who enjoy drugs? It's a bit like watching a white person commit a crime then saying "I hate white people". Let's not paint with too big a brush here, he's just a crazy asshole.
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To be fair, people who want to tell you all about their acid trips are super annoying.
 
truthatallcost said:
I'm curious if you've noticed any changes in how your doctor deals with prescribing you opiates? I've heard that some people with legit reasons to need them have been cut off, or made to jump through hoops like monthly drug tests. This sucks because there's people gobbling 1000 pills a week and knocking over their grannies trailer to get money for drugs, and then there's people like you who use moderation to treat an actual medical issue. Some doctors tend to view everyone as an addict now.
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There have been very significant changes in the way opioid prescriptions are dealt with over the years. I used to be able to call my neurologist and get a refill when I needed one. No drug tests, ever. I always took them "as needed", which could be as little as once a week. The rate of consumption was all the doc needed to be comfortable with the idea of prescribing them. He knew the need was genuine based on my MRI's, nerve conduction tests, etc. That was circa late 90's.

Fast forward to now (this evolution happened over time). Note that Limbaugh was busted in 2003, in FL, with cigar boxes full of pills.

I am required to go a "pain management" doc once a month. Out of pocket cost without insurance would be $200.00 - for a 5 minute consult. They give me a prescription for a 30 day supply. The insurance company won't refill it until 30 days have elapsed since the previous refill. On random occasions I have to take a pee test. Most doctors offices will not deal with "pain management" or prescribe narcos more than once. I very much doubt that doctors are the source of what's on the street in this state.
 
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truthatallcost said:
That's an interesting genetic formulation you got going on there. Alcohol and weed seem to be the two most common drugs that do it for people (not going to get all straight-edge here and say coffee is a drug). Cocaine makes your heart leap out of your chest, which was your jam, yet milder substances like alcohol were too stimulating.
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Not too stimulating, too debilitating.
When I was working for American-Russian Television in WeHo, they got me used to vodka...a little bit.
But as I was married to an alcoholic, (first wife - the Starlet) I still didn't want to get into the habit, as she was already a piece of work. Plus I just didn't like it all that much.
 
Cardinal said:
To be fair, people who want to tell you all about their acid trips are super annoying.
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My handful of acid trips spelled my breakthrough from Asperger's, The End :)
See? I spared you the details! (LOL)
 
Cardinal said:
To be fair, people who want to tell you all about their acid trips are super annoying.
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i did not share my experience until Steve Jobs publicly acknowledged his experience had been life changing

yea, mine was, also
 
doxygen said:
There have been very significant changes in the way opioid prescriptions are dealt with over the years. I used to be able to call my neurologist and get a refill when I needed one. No drug tests, ever. I always took them "as needed", which could be as little as once a week. The rate of consumption was all the doc needed to be comfortable with the idea of prescribing them. He knew the need was genuine based on my MRI's, nerve conduction tests, etc. That was circa late 90's.

Fast forward to now (this evolution happened over time). Note that Limbaugh was busted in 2003, in FL, with cigar boxes full of pills.

I am required to go a "pain management" doc once a month. Out of pocket cost without insurance would be $200.00 - for a 5 minute consult. They give me a prescription for a 30 day supply. The insurance company won't refill it until 30 days have elapsed since the previous refill. On random occasions I have to take a pee test. Most doctors offices will not deal with "pain management" or prescribe narcos more than once. I very much doubt that doctors are the source of what's on the street in this state.
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That’s why people have changed over to heroin.
 
Here we ****ing go....


Massachusetts Sues Opioid Maker, Executives for Role in Drug Crisis

Massachusetts has sued the maker of OxyContin (Purdue Pharma) over the deadly opioid crisis and has become the first state to also target the company's executives.

Attorney General Maura Healey on Tuesday announced the lawsuit against Purdue Pharma and 16 current and former executives and board members, including CEO Craig Landau and members of the Sackler family, which owns the company.

The suit alleges Purdue misled doctors and patients about the risks of opioids and "peddled falsehoods" to sell more drugs and boost profits.

"I promised to find out what these companies knew and when they knew it and the extent to which they misled patients into think their drugs were actually safe," Healey said. "We found that Purdue misled doctors, patients and the public about their dangerous opioids, including OxyContin."​
 
truthatallcost said:
Soooooooo true man (bolded part). Plus, the DARE program made me want to try drugs as a kid. If those dorks doing the DARE presentation weren't on drugs, then I was certainly going to have to choose an alternative direction in life.
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There aren't many things that make my blood boil, but I have a very deep-seated hatred of America's drug war and prison industry. It almost literally hurts me to know that the land of the free is home to the highest incarceration rate in the world.
 
Jesse Booth said:
There aren't many things that make my blood boil, but I have a very deep-seated hatred of America's drug war and prison industry. It almost literally hurts me to know that the land of the free is home to the highest incarceration rate in the world.
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One item I strongly oppose it the private prison industry. Places get penalities for not putting enough people into prison because of the contract with the private prison company. That's unjust.
 
RAMOSS said:
One item I strongly oppose it the private prison industry. Places get penalities for not putting enough people into prison because of the contract with the private prison company. That's unjust.
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Absolutely. Giving someone a financial incentive to keep as many people locked up as possible is just evil and wrong.
 
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