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Scary run-in with the police today.

Chomsky said:
Bob, your read was a real nail-biter. Thanks for posting this, you write well. This would make a great vignette.

But most importantly, I'm glad you emerged unscathed, and I hope you can find an effective solution for resolving your memories.

I am a hard-core absolute teetotaler, in term of psychoactive substances - both legal & illegal. I strongly believe in letting our bodies and minds resolving our issues straight-on, without clouding the process with substances. But I realize my path may not be for everyone. I hope you find what best works for you.
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Your ideology is admirable and the best course of action if possible.

I had a sleeping disorder that was alleviated by marijuana. Mine was not related to any PTSD. I could not fall asleep over thinking about what all I was going to do the next day. Once the wheels started turning I was up all night. It took a year of psychiatric help and a lot of determination on my part to learn how to stop the wheels from turning. I did not want to be on sleeping pills the rest of my life.

I was fortunate my problem was easily solved. Bob's situation is a lot more complicated and the fact is we do not have a cure. When you cannot cure something the next best alternative is to relieve the symptoms. If it is arthritis of the fingers Advil may be the answer until we have a cure. If marijuana allows Bob to sleep and live a normal life it needs to be legal and available to those who need it. We know that the side effects of marijuana are safer than most drugs we can buy on the shelf today. Look how many people have died from aspirin and Tylenol. I would argue the big Gulp and supersize everything is far more detrimental.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Nonsense.
For every bit of detail and paperwork in a drug bust, there's a workaround.
This has been proven over and over again ad nauseum.

And it's not just drugs either, it's also cash. There is an enormous amount of leeway in confiscating cash which is "thought to be from suspicious means" and in point of fact, the Obama administration had been making some headway into tightening up restrictions on how municipalities and law enforcement handle cash in a civil asset forfeiture proceeding.
Three guesses as to who just finished ERASING all that headway and reversing it.

No, not Trump...Jeff Sessions.
See you in Tenaha, Texas.
I bet they've resumed doing what they became famous for doing now that the heat is off them.
Also US 63 in Marked Tree or Tyronza, Arkansas and of course, Pantego, Texas.
Stay off the 303 if you know what's good for you.
There's hundreds of these little bergs that make a fortune off civil asset forfeiture, and they complained really loud when Obama started regulating how they handle their confiscated loot.
Sessions to the rescue. He's a good ole boy.
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They caught eventually. Once they get away with it they will continue to get more and more overconfident. Then they pull over a fed or state trooper who decides to end the game.

Funny, in my neck of the woods the good ole boys are democrats.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
They caught eventually. Once they get away with it they will continue to get more and more overconfident. Then they pull over a fed or state trooper who decides to end the game.

Funny, in my neck of the woods the good ole boys are democrats.
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Everything they've gotten away with is 100% legal, so all that would happen in a case like you describe is a dick measuring contest between two fellow professionals, usually a humorous one-act drama, although in some cases if the other cop is of a different race it's been known to get dicey.



The case was immediately thrown out of court.
The "arresting" officer pulled him over for the license plate being blocked with a plastic frame.
The officer was previously warned not to pull people over for such stupid violations.
The undercover cop won big in a lawsuit later on.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
Your ideology is admirable and the best course of action if possible.

I had a sleeping disorder that was alleviated by marijuana. Mine was not related to any PTSD. I could not fall asleep over thinking about what all I was going to do the next day. Once the wheels started turning I was up all night. It took a year of psychiatric help and a lot of determination on my part to learn how to stop the wheels from turning. I did not want to be on sleeping pills the rest of my life.

I was fortunate my problem was easily solved. Bob's situation is a lot more complicated and the fact is we do not have a cure. When you cannot cure something the next best alternative is to relieve the symptoms. If it is arthritis of the fingers Advil may be the answer until we have a cure. If marijuana allows Bob to sleep and live a normal life it needs to be legal and available to those who need it. We know that the side effects of marijuana are safer than most drugs we can buy on the shelf today. Look how many people have died from aspirin and Tylenol. I would argue the big Gulp and supersize everything is far more detrimental.
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Thanks! In social terms, I'm about as lazzez faire as it gets. Whatever works for others, is perfectly fine by me.

But I've lived on both sides of the fence, and days ago I partied with the best - until it no longer worked that well for me.

But I'll tell you, developing mental perseverance is a life-long process, and going down the path the human mind can accomplish amazing feats. Really amazing stuff. You can discipline yourself to shut your mind off and sleep, even through times of turmoil. I've done it. And once you start along that path and have some success, through positive reinforcement it gets easier & easier.

I've been living completely drug & substance free for many years now. Your brain will develop the calmness and fortitude it needs for you to overcome mental adversity, if you let it. You just need to let it work naturally. If you use substances to assist your brain in dealing with issues, it never develops the mechanisms it needs to deal with adversity naturally.

All you need is one event where you channel positive energy to naturally overcome the event, and your brain learns from that. It establishes neural pathways that lead to a positive outcome, and with every further success those pathways become more established. In time, they become the regular modus operandi.

So without drugs as crutches, we get better at things. If that makes sense?

Anyway, I'm completely sold on drug-free living, but whatever it takes to make it through the night is what it takes, right? So my way may not be for everybody, and I can fully respect that. But I think it's worth a try, for those that can.
 
Chomsky said:
Anyway, I'm completely sold on drug-free living, but whatever it takes to make it through the night is what it takes, right? So my way may not be for everybody, and I can fully respect that. But I think it's worth a try, for those that can.
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I prefer drug free living, but that is not always possible for people. I know several people on epileptic medications for example. Those are not something you can cure by channeling positive energy or by diet.
 
KevinKohler said:
Know, his post is about stress, and his personal battles with it, from his unique experiences.

My point is, however, is that, PTSD aside, we're all stressed, because, ultimately, we're all criminals. Because of asinine stuff like this. He got pulled over for traveling too long in the left lane, lol. FFS.

I got a ticket in CT for having a baseball bat in my trunk. It's illegal, see, without also having an accompanying ball and glove. I know another guy who got a ticket for having a box cutter (like you get from Home Depot) that could extend past the legal length.

My point isn't to debate individual laws, but the very climate we live in this country that resulted in a clearly financially successful veteran with a spotless record to end up in the situation that he found himself, forced to interact with strangers during a moment of extreme duress. I'm not sympathetic, I'm ****ing angry, and you should be too.

Shame on us. Shame on us all.
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Technically the highway between my town and Culiacan says the same thing about traveling in the left lane only for passing, but the right lane is in such bad shape from the big trucks, that is almost unusable.

I always travel in the left lane until somebody wants to go faster then I let them by. The right lane is just too dangerous.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
Yeah, and I’m nor really inclined to pick on states about this. Some states probably just don’t want to go against the federal government. If the federal government decriminalized it and some states still criminalize, then I will become judgemental.
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I am curious to know what they did with your product.

They can't log it in as evidence as there was no case, so what do they do with it?
 
Skeptic Bob said:
It would have to increase their odds of getting a hit by at least a little, I would think.
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Don't you think it is odd that they bring out a dog that doesn't smell for MJ?

You posted the officer said the dog can detect other substances but he didn't say MJ.

If they were targeting travelers coming from CO, don't you think they would use a dog that detects MJ?
 
Mason66 said:
Don't you think it is odd that they bring out a dog that doesn't smell for MJ?

You posted the officer said the dog can detect other substances but he didn't say MJ.

If they were targeting travelers coming from CO, don't you think they would use a dog that detects MJ?
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I think you missed it, which is understandable because it was a long-ass post. Marijuana was one of the things he said the dog was trained to hit.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
I think you missed it, which is understandable because it was a long-ass post. Marijuana was one of the things he said the dog was trained to hit.
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You are right. Sorry I missed that.

Old eyes you know.
 
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Skeptic Bob said:
tldr: Skeptic Bob gets pulled over by cops. They take his weed and let him go. Skeptic Bob still whines like a bitch despite his good luck.
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No, you are not "whining like a bitch".
I read your emotionally trying experience, struggle with "demons" (aka PTSD) & ultimate good luck yesterday & have thought about it since.
I hope you got a good night's sleep last night.
I've had similar experiences, similar good luck and my demons have been in hibernation for several years.
It's also been my repeated experience that the police tend to go much easier on those of us who are "Scratch n' Dent" Veterans.
I was also impressed with the amount of support you received in the form of "Likes" from other concerned Posters at this forum which I think speaks well of humanity in general.
I haven't read the 11 + pages of Posts since you started this interesting thread but I suspect that many people have suggested that you talk to someone about your "demons" & how they affect your quality of life. I did & I haven't had a nightmare in years.
After the death of a very dear old friend of 66 years last week, I've resolved to make the quality of life a top priority.
It sounds like you deserve to do the same thing & I hope you'll do the same thing.
Good luck & please keep me posted.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Everything they've gotten away with is 100% legal, so all that would happen in a case like you describe is a dick measuring contest between two fellow professionals, usually a humorous one-act drama, although in some cases if the other cop is of a different race it's been known to get dicey.



The case was immediately thrown out of court.
The "arresting" officer pulled him over for the license plate being blocked with a plastic frame.
The officer was previously warned not to pull people over for such stupid violations.
The undercover cop won big in a lawsuit later on.
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I can show you thousands of cases of cops getting caught not turning in money or drugs. Eventually they do it to someone who cares and will inform the proper authorities. They usually set the person up and take them down for a long prison term.

Local cop busted for stealing drug money: Feds

Local cop busted for stealing drug money: Feds | PennLive.com
 
Skeptic Bob said:
tldr: Skeptic Bob gets pulled over by cops. They take his weed and let him go. Skeptic Bob still whines like a bitch despite his good luck.
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As someone who had a friend who was fell deep into the drug trade and did a lot of bad things...I have very little sympathy for dealers. And I won’t personally use. That said...I intend on only voting for candidates that will legalize use as it is one of the most destructive problems we have in America. The policy has created more problems than they have solved. And I’m a pretty law following conservative.

It sucks that that happened. Good that you see your problem and are trying to solve it. That says to me you are more self aware than most people who have issues. And why there is hope for you. At least that is my view.
 
blackjack50 said:
As someone who had a friend who was fell deep into the drug trade and did a lot of bad things...I have very little sympathy for dealers. And I won’t personally use. That said...I intend on only voting for candidates that will legalize use as it is one of the most destructive problems we have in America. The policy has created more problems than they have solved. And I’m a pretty law following conservative.

It sucks that that happened. Good that you see your problem and are trying to solve it. That says to me you are more self aware than most people who have issues. And why there is hope for you. At least that is my view.
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Try seeing cannabis as a medication and not a narcotic, because in science it is no where near a narcotic, and less addictive than coffee, cigarettes, wine, and, believe it or not, power drinks...you know the ones sold over the counter that look like pop and which claim a few hundred lives a year.

Cannabis became a narcotic as the ruling class of the day was paranoid the "n****r drug was starting to be used by white people, or so they saw it. It was associated with "negro music" because it's a substance musicians can use and still play and sing.

And, it is NOT a gateway drugs as your opening line might suggest. In fact the "gateways" to hard core drug use (the first substance that created a physical craving) is cigarettes.

I have been addicted to them all. From LSD to coke I used them from the time of my first week end long peace protest. But my core was alcohol, as is the case with 90 % of the people I work with. ( used no needles)

So my point is to separate cannabis from the truly addictive and most harmful drugs, beginning with cigarettes, the single most addictive substance know to mankind.

So you see my anger at **** like this. While these cops were using up $$$$ of taxpayers money to gather up $1,000 of pot 8 or 15 thousand kids are getting hooked on cigarettes and alcohol the later of which claims the most lives through traffic accidents.

I have been working with addicts for over 20 years, walking with them on a path to "recovery". I know, just as here, what those kids go through. And when you have come to know them and they die, again and again, I kind of get furious about America's "war on easy drugs to bust' and believe if you were to take that $ and no more and use it for treatment, your death rate, crime rates, an everything rates will be halved in surprising time.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Try seeing cannabis as a medication and not a narcotic, because in science it is no where near a narcotic, and less addictive than coffee, cigarettes, wine, and, believe it or not, power drinks...you know the ones sold over the counter that look like pop and which claim a few hundred lives a year.

Cannabis became a narcotic as the ruling class of the day was paranoid the "n****r drug was starting to be used by white people, or so they saw it. It was associated with "negro music" because it's a substance musicians can use and still play and sing.

And, it is NOT a gateway drugs as your opening line might suggest. In fact the "gateways" to hard core drug use (the first substance that created a physical craving) is cigarettes.

I have been addicted to them all. From LSD to coke I used them from the time of my first week end long peace protest. But my core was alcohol, as is the case with 90 % of the people I work with. ( used no needles)

So my point is to separate cannabis from the truly addictive and most harmful drugs, beginning with cigarettes, the single most addictive substance know to mankind.

So you see my anger at **** like this. While these cops were using up $$$$ of taxpayers money to gather up $1,000 of pot 8 or 15 thousand kids are getting hooked on cigarettes and alcohol the later of which claims the most lives through traffic accidents.

I have been working with addicts for over 20 years, walking with them on a path to "recovery". I know, just as here, what those kids go through. And when you have come to know them and they die, again and again, I kind of get furious about America's "war on easy drugs to bust' and believe if you were to take that $ and no more and use it for treatment, your death rate, crime rates, an everything rates will be halved in surprising time.
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I agree 100% I too have worked with drug addiction. Not professionally but I have made attempts with family and friends as well as myself. Some of the worst suffering I have seen was recovering from alcohol. The long term success rate for alcohol and cigarettes is pitiful. I have quit both. Cigarettes for over 10 years and alcohol for 5 years. I am now struggling with weight loss. I am finding this to be much harder than quitting marijuana. Of course quitting marijuana was the easiest thing I ever quit using. I think I am more addicted to soda. Marijuana is the only one I may go back to. If it is legal and if it relieves suffering such as arthritis.
 
Crovax said:
Why not get a prescription for xananx?
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Chomsky said:
Because except for use in rare & acute instances, a benzo habit can cause some amazingly bad circumstances for the user. They are hell to get off, if one becomes dependent.
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That's what I was about to say.

I'll take it as true when ex-heroin and ex-benzo users say that benzos were a far worse withdrawal. Just not worth even trying unless it's an absolute necessity.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
I agree 100% I too have worked with drug addiction. Not professionally but I have made attempts with family and friends as well as myself. Some of the worst suffering I have seen was recovering from alcohol. The long term success rate for alcohol and cigarettes is pitiful. I have quit both. Cigarettes for over 10 years and alcohol for 5 years. I am now struggling with weight loss. I am finding this to be much harder than quitting marijuana. Of course quitting marijuana was the easiest thing I ever quit using. I think I am more addicted to soda. Marijuana is the only one I may go back to. If it is legal and if it relieves suffering such as arthritis.
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I can tell you did your quitting alone. Which tells me you are really ****ing strong willed, and "male dumb" a new phrase to identify the male gene that prevents us from asking for help.

OK, I go clean in sober in 1991. I quit cigarettes for the last time in 2009. I stopped drugs cold turkey and never returned. It took me 20 years to quit cigarettes and although it's been eight years now, I still get cravings ( I vaporize my cannabis to avoid the inhaling which drives me nuts).

I was for 15 years a hard core AA. Total abstinence of ALL mind altering substances. Then I got sick with the fist signs of PTSD. Sleeplessness for weeks at a time, and because I have addictions in my past, 2/3 of the sleep medication is not available to me. Months went by, I was so tired some days it was like I was drunk. A worker, saw this and offered me a joint to sleep. I did, I went to my doctor and informed him I slept like a baby...he said "what do I sign"?

Now I use pot to help bring down some hard core addicts. It is extremely useful where chronic pain is involved. I relented and saw the value of "harm reduction"


Since then I have gone full PTSD as a result of weird **** and accidents and job hassles, and what keeps me from going totally crazy is cannabis. I since then have developed Menierre's disease (dizzy spells, head aches) and more recently migraines.

I tried the industries meds and regained 50 of the 70 lbs I had lost. I lost some of that and came down with a funny heart problem, heart medication put another 20 lbs on. Now my blood sugar is rising because of the weight.

So, less and less do I use their meds, and more and more vape some pot and drive the migraines to the hell they belong.

I would suggest you do some research, because even though I have been around pot or using for 50 years I am learning all kinds of things. FI - everyoine thinks pot gives you the munchies....
nope. High THC content pot kills appetite.

And....thank you. Thank you for helping alcoholic friends. If you are still interested I suggest attending an AA meeting or two.
 
Mr Person said:
That's what I was about to say.

I'll take it as true when ex-heroin and ex-benzo users say that benzos were a far worse withdrawal. Just not worth even trying unless it's an absolute necessity.
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I've spent nearly 20 years helping addicts and encountered every kind of abused drug. The easiest to kick is heroine. Yeah, you get close to dying for a few days, but once its passed you're good to go (in most instances)

The hardest drug to kick in my personal experience and observations of others is cigarettes. No contest.

I have never had to work down a Benzodiazepine user. In fact it is being used rather effectively in treatment of harder drugs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzodiazepine

I have known three heroin users now on methadone who regret the day they did. You never feel satisfied with methadone, and there is only one way out of it....heroin. And I have walked with a few who have gone "cold turkey".

The killer today is fentanyl, most users die of overdose before getting sick enough to seek help. In my province alone over 9,000 people were peeled off the pavement.
 
Fearandloathing said:
I've spent nearly 20 years helping addicts and encountered every kind of abused drug. The easiest to kick is heroine. Yeah, you get close to dying for a few days, but once its passed you're good to go (in most instances)

The hardest drug to kick in my personal experience and observations of others is cigarettes. No contest.

I have never had to work down a Benzodiazepine user. In fact it is being used rather effectively in treatment of harder drugs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzodiazepine

I have known three heroin users now on methadone who regret the day they did. You never feel satisfied with methadone, and there is only one way out of it....heroin. And I have walked with a few who have gone "cold turkey".
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RE: the bolded.

I must have some strange genes. The only thing I've gotten physically addicted to were cigarettes. I went cold turkey after 5 years of 1-2 packs/day (perhaps not long enough to cause a really bad addiction). It was a rather bitter struggle, yes. The days weren't so bad. I didn't actually feel a physical craving to smoke. It was more this non-stop litany of thoughts in the back of my mind; "it's your body. You can do what you want. Who are they to tell you to stop? Just have another. See, you did it for three days, you can do it whenever." Yadda ****ing yadda.

I had to keep telling myself: "no. This is easy. All you do is you do not pick up a cigarette, you do not put it in your mouth, and you do not light it. NOW SHUT UP!"

The nights were the toughest bit though. I'd drift off and start dreaming. The dream would proceed as normal until the question of smoking came up. I would give in and have a cigarette. I would then wake up immediately, face into the pillow, literally sucking pillow into my mouth. This happened every 30-45 minutes each night, in every single dream, for about two weeks. Unpleasant, to say the least. Good thing I was on vacation with my family at Cape Cod, so it didn't really matter that I was miserable. I'd hate to have done that while working.

I'd always pictured withdrawal from physically addictive drugs as incredibly hard - way harder than what I went through. If cigarettes really are the toughest withdrawal, well, like I said...maybe I've just got the right kind of genes for dealing with it.



Something like 2 decades later, I still have occasional dreams where I decide to buy a pack of cigarettes. But, I have absolutely no desire to smoke one while awake since about the third week of cold turkey. The smell repulses me now.










Anyway, from what I gather, Benzo withdrawal is particularly rough because the psychological symptoms are apparently far more trying than those that occur with other addictions, and can take a very long time. But I'm not speaking from a position of expertise or personal experience there.
 
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PIPEWRENCH said:
I agree 100% I too have worked with drug addiction. Not professionally but I have made attempts with family and friends as well as myself. Some of the worst suffering I have seen was recovering from alcohol. The long term success rate for alcohol and cigarettes is pitiful. I have quit both. Cigarettes for over 10 years and alcohol for 5 years. I am now struggling with weight loss. I am finding this to be much harder than quitting marijuana. Of course quitting marijuana was the easiest thing I ever quit using. I think I am more addicted to soda. Marijuana is the only one I may go back to. If it is legal and if it relieves suffering such as arthritis.
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One area in which I am fortunate is I don’t seem to be prone to chemical addiction. During the 6 months after evacuating Libya and being separated from my family I started chain smoking cigarettes out of stress and boredom. When I was finally reunited with my family I stopped smoking without so much as a craving.

When I was single and stationed in Cambodia I would hit the bars almost every night. Again, bored and beer was dirt cheap. I got buzzed nearly every night. But when I settled down and met my wife I stopped going to bars, again without a craving. I’ll usually have a 6 pack of craft beers in my fridge that will last me a month. I really enjoy scotch but a bottle will last me several months.

And even with weed sometimes I will go a couple weeks without even thinking about it. The only habit I have that can get away from me if not careful is overeating. If I have junk food in the house it actually takes some seriously will power for me to forget about it.
 
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Mr Person said:
RE: the bolded.

I must have some strange genes. The only thing I've gotten physically addicted to were cigarettes. I went cold turkey after 5 years of 1-2 packs/day (perhaps not long enough to cause a really bad addiction). It was a rather bitter struggle, yes. The days weren't so bad. I didn't actually feel a physical craving to smoke. It was more this non-stop litany of thoughts in the back of my mind; "it's your body. You can do what you want. Who are they to tell you to stop? Just have another. See, you did it for three days, you can do it whenever." Yadda ****ing yadda.

I had to keep telling myself: "no. This is easy. All you do is you do not pick up a cigarette, you do not put it in your mouth, and you do not light it. NOW SHUT UP!"

The nights were the toughest bit though. I'd drift off and start dreaming. The dream would proceed as normal until the question of smoking came up. I would give in and have a cigarette. I would then wake up immediately, face into the pillow, literally sucking pillow into my mouth. This happened every 30-45 minutes, in every single dream, for about two weeks.

Unpleasant, to say the least. Good thing I was on vacation with my family at Cape Cod, so it didn't really matter that I was miserable. I'd hate to have done that while working.

I'd always pictured withdrawal from physically addictive drugs as incredibly hard - way harder than what I went through. If cigarettes really are the toughest withdrawal, well, like I said...maybe I've just got the right kind of genes for dealing with it.





Something like 2 decades later, I still have occasional dreams where I decide to buy a pack of cigarettes now. But, I had absolutely no desire to smoke one while awake since about the third week of cold turkey. The smell repulses me now.










Anyway, from what I gather, Benzo withdrawal is particularly rough because the psychological symptoms are apparently far more trying than those that occur with other addictions, and can take a very long time. But I'm not speaking from a position of expertise or personal experience there.
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I don't think it's strange genes at all. I know more cigarette addicts still using who have no other serious problems. It underscores how addictive they are.

I will find the site that rates everything from tea to sugar (yes, both can create withdrawal symptoms)

We don't think of cigarettes as a drug because they are so pervasive in our society. They have also been heavily enhanced to increase the effects of the tobacco AND chemicals designed to make the effects where off faster.

https://www.cancer.org/cancer/cance...er/carcinogens-found-in-tobacco-products.html

I have encountered if not every form of addiction, then every one we know about. They say in cigarette quitting "every quit is different" and I discovered te depth of that recently meeting a woman who's addicted to booze, AND cigarettes, who is maybe 45 and looks 65 and who had been trying to quit booze for years, AA meetings and more meetings and she would leave the meeting, light up and go to the bar.
Then the provincial government aggressively funded quit smoking programs, therapy and products like the patch. I talked her into the patch and one group session, and damn, she slipped once and "poof" the cigarettes are gone, and so was the booze about a month later.

We know little, really, about addictions. In fact there is no consensus whether they are a medical, spiritual, physical (DNA) or psychological....and even debate whether it constitutes a real "disease". Now consider the woman above, not a unique story at all, but the observation of something we haven't even studied: "cross addiction". She could not kill the demon booze so long as she smoked and "holy ****" cigarettes weren't even a fight.

Today I work with those who AA can't help, for many reasons I am sure no one really understands. I have embraced "harm reduction" and have seen a few cases where the client was kept alive through a safe injection site for months until that magic day when we say "enough is enough!" and you see the miracle of a hard core junkie getting clean, healthy to the point of unrecognizable and become a 'nice guy.'
 
Skeptic Bob said:
Right?! And it was in my trunk wrapped in a plastic bag, still in its original wrapping. And I hadn’t vaped in the trip at all so it likely wasn’t that. The more I think about the less likely I think that is the case. I think it was one of two things.

1. What the dog actually smelled was the residual odor on my clothes from the smells I picked up inside the dispensary that day. I remember when I arrrived at the dispensary I could smell the weed from the parking lot before I even got out of my car. I am guessing I picked up enough odor particles during my 10 minutes in there for the dog to hit on.
2. The dog didn’t actually hit on anything. The cop just picked up on my body language and my increased anxiety when I saw the dog and interpreted the dog how they wanted to. I feel like the K9 Officer and the Officer sitting with me were exchanging some signals with each other but that could be my imagination. Maybe the dogs really are just that good.
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It is very possible that the dog did not pick up anything, and that saying so was just a ruse to do what they wanted. I mean, how are you going to prove them wrong?
 
Skeptic Bob said:
And maybe it didn’t have anything to do with me being a vet. Maybe they were waiting for bigger fish to fry and figured the $1,000 loss was punishment enough. At least I would hope they have that same compassion for other people with similar amounts. He was treating me very respectfully even before he knew I was a veteran. Of course I was doing the same to him, too.
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Just going by the way you laid out the story, my guess is that your vet status was the difference maker.
 
Goshin said:
It is very commonly true, that the attitude you get from most cops depends on the attitude you give them. Lotta people don't seem to understand that.

There are exceptions, of course, but by and large...
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I don't do myself any favors. I basically clam up and say as little as possible.

I also HATE when they ask where I'm going and where I'm coming from. It's none of their effing business. I get that they're probably testing my attitude or something, but it's still none of their effing business.
 
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