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I Hate Kids [W:62]

calamity

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If ever I think about why I never had children, I just notice the ones who are around me, and suddenly all doubt is erased.
 
Bet you are glad your parents didn't feel the same way, then again, I am sure you were a perfect Angel and no one looked at you and said "I hate kids"
 
Sabre said:
Bet you are glad your parents didn't feel the same way, then again, I am sure you were a perfect Angel and no one looked at you and said "I hate kids"
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It seems certain he wouldn't mind had they successfully felt the same way.
 
calamity said:
If ever I think about why I never had children, I just notice the ones who are around me, and suddenly all doubt is erased.
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That was the basis of our decision, anyway. And the deep feeling of social responsibility, of course.
 
calamity said:
If ever I think about why I never had children, I just notice the ones who are around me, and suddenly all doubt is erased.
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The only reason to have kids is so you can have grandkids. :2razz:
 
Sabre said:
Bet you are glad your parents didn't feel the same way, then again, I am sure you were a perfect Angel and no one looked at you and said "I hate kids"
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I've never understood this particularly stupid bingo towards the childfree.

If his parents had felt the same way, he wouldn't have existed. And if he didn't exist, how could he possibly have cared? Frankly, it's irrelevant whether our parents have us or not. We couldn't possibly care, if they don't.

I have also never understood how the way one might have been when they were still missing most of their frontal lobes means anything at all about who they are now that they have their entire brain. Frankly, who cares whether someone had thought that about him, or me, or anyone else as a child? We only had half a brain. That might be the vessel that eventually became us, but it's not really us as we understand ourselves. It's like saying that if an elderly person with dementia acts out, that means we should take that as the sum total of the character, even back when they were well.

It's another mind-numbingly banal, parroted snipe I see all the time, which is rendered simply funny by way of the fact that no one who says it seems to understand how dumb it is.

People are allowed to not like stuff. I don't like parrots either, but I have yet to ever see of someone get all huffy and aggro when I say so.
 
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joG said:
That was the basis of our decision, anyway. And the deep feeling of social responsibility, of course.
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I can respect that, but for myself I'm more selfish. I think I'd feel a lot more "empty" without kids.
 
calamity said:
If ever I think about why I never had children, I just notice the ones who are around me, and suddenly all doubt is erased.
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I'm sorry you feel that way.
 
calamity said:
If ever I think about why I never had children, I just notice the ones who are around me, and suddenly all doubt is erased.
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There's as crap-ton of great "kids" out there. You just don't see them as much because they aren't being outright jerks.
 
calamity said:
If ever I think about why I never had children, I just notice the ones who are around me, and suddenly all doubt is erased.
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The older I get, the less I like them, too...for the same reason...very few are taught manners or respect anymore...
 
I don't think everyone should have or want kids, but hate them? lol. I didn't have my 2 kids until my late 20's so I had plenty of "me" free time when I was younger. At that time I didn't want kids at all.
Id see some young woman with 3 or 4 kids and cringe.
It really changes people (for the better) and in ways that are hard to explain. Of course thats jmo. :)
 
calamity said:
If ever I think about why I never had children, I just notice the ones who are around me, and suddenly all doubt is erased.
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I like kids.............................fried.
 
Winchester said:
I can respect that, but for myself I'm more selfish. I think I'd feel a lot more "empty" without kids.
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That is something I can believe. It is also why I do not think that the state should subsidize having children the way we do.
 
Elvira said:
The older I get, the less I like them, too...for the same reason...very few are taught manners or respect anymore...
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We sometimes see what we want/expect to see, confirmation bias and all.
 
Winchester said:
We sometimes see what we want/expect to see, confirmation bias and all.
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I see what's out there...in restaurants, in grocery stores, in movie theaters...you name it...unruly brats...
 
Elvira said:
I see what's out there...in restaurants, in grocery stores, in movie theaters...you name it...unruly brats...
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But do you even notice the well behaved ones?
 
Elvira said:
I see what's out there...in restaurants, in grocery stores, in movie theaters...you name it...unruly brats...
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Wow....you must be pretty damn old.

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sablesea said:
I don't think everyone should have or want kids, but hate them? lol. I didn't have my 2 kids until my late 20's so I had plenty of "me" free time when I was younger. At that time I didn't want kids at all.
Id see some young woman with 3 or 4 kids and cringe.
It really changes people (for the better) and in ways that are hard to explain. Of course thats jmo. :)
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I don't really buy that as any sort of rule. I know just as many people who either stayed the same or even changed for the worse, after they became parents.

I get that it's important to the parents who enjoy it, but there's a substantial chunk of parents who don't enjoy it, and also a substantial chunk of people who know in advance they wouldn't enjoy it and avoid it.

And it gets really tiresome for parents to assume their personal feelings are either universal, or that anyone who disagrees with them is wrong at best, and an inferior human being at worst. Sometimes I wonder if that mindset coming from parents is the reason why so many of their kids are so incapable of understanding or respecting other people's feelings...
 
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Hari Seldon said:
I like kids.............................fried.
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Bruce Dern said that, something similar, on a talk show ages ago. They were discussing how he always played such an evil guy and he said, "I love kids....barbequed."
 
Winchester said:
We sometimes see what we want/expect to see, confirmation bias and all.
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It's just that the bad ones attract so much attention.

We dont necessarily notice the ones that behave. IMO that's something that we can all consciously do something about. Overtly positively reinforce good behavior.
 
Winchester said:
But do you even notice the well behaved ones?
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I sure do and they're few and far between...I've even commended the parents when I've had the rare privilege...
 
I see an awful lot of obnoxious and ignorant adults these days too.

Some are in places of rather significant power.
 
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