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DNA Ancestry Tests

MaggieD said:
There’s one that does animal DNA testing, or there used to be. Find out what kind of mitt your dog is. I laughed because they also wanted his picture. I wonder if the people ones want a picture, too...

Edit... and I also wonder what’s happening to all those DNA samples matched to names and addresses.
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MaggieD said:
There’s one that does animal DNA testing, or there used to be. Find out what kind of mitt your dog is. I laughed because they also wanted his picture. I wonder if the people ones want a picture, too...

Edit... and I also wonder what’s happening to all those DNA samples matched to names and addresses.
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Well, it's put in a database, and for many, when someone is looking for close relatives because they were either adopted, or put someone up for adoption, that is a very userful tool to finding out whose one close family relatives are. It will only be useful 3 or 4 generations back.
 
MaggieD said:
Is there any scientific basis formclaimsmthat a dna test can prove one’s ancestry?
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If you want to know if you are related to Mary Queen of Scots, then no. If you want to know if your ancestors came from France or Japan or Africa, then yes.


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MaggieD said:
There’s one that does animal DNA testing, or there used to be. Find out what kind of mitt your dog is. I laughed because they also wanted his picture. I wonder if the people ones want a picture, too...

Edit... and I also wonder what’s happening to all those DNA samples matched to names and addresses.
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Animal DNA testing is still going on and it's vital in cases of show dogs to ensure they were sired as their pedigree indicates.

Your other statement is one I, too, have long considered. What is the privacy factor behind the DNA tests?

Forbes says it may not be as secure as one might think.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/realsp...-delusions-of-genetic-testing/2/#276a0bb489c8

Genetic testing promises a revolution in healthcare. With just a few swabs of saliva, diagnostics can provide an unprecedented look into a person's family history and potential health risks. Within a decade, global sales of genetic tests are expected to hit $10 billion. Direct-to-consumer companies such as 23andMe and Genos have proven particularly popular, with tens of thousands of people purchasing at-home testing kits every year.

But the industry's rapid growth rests on a dangerous delusion: that genetic data is kept private. Most people assume this sensitive information simply sits in a secure database, protected from hacks and misuse.

Far from it. Genetic-testing companies cannot guarantee privacy. And many are actively selling user data to outside parties.
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MaggieD said:
.. and I also wonder what’s happening to all those DNA samples matched to names and addresses.
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Which has stopped me from thinking about going for it. But then I think, nah...I'm being too CT. But, what if I'm right?

It's a vicious cycle! :)
 
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Aberration said:
This article does not apply to sites like Ancestry(dot)com which are only telling you what ethnic population your DNA matches. It applies to those who are claiming they can trace your exact ancestry.


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You didn't read the article.
 
MaggieD said:
Is there any scientific basis formclaimsmthat a dna test can prove one’s ancestry?
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The current testing is less about your familial ancestry, and more about your genetic Haplogroup.

https://isogg.org/wiki/Haplogroup

A marketing ploy I have seen is "who are you related to?" Well, you are basically related to everyone...but haplo testing will not tell you anything about your specific family line, just that you fall into a particular genetic group, and where that group migrated to/from.

Below is an older haplo map, but the information is mostly accurate.

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MaggieD said:
Is there any scientific basis formclaimsmthat a dna test can prove one’s ancestry?
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These are awesome. Will help keep those stupid white trash rednecks from claiming to be 1/36 Cherokee apache seminole. What is the deal with that?
 
Mr Person said:
Now why would you think that there are specific genes corresponding to specific religious beliefs?
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Arab's are not a religious group, they are more of a loose cultural group defined by language. Arab Sudanese who can be very dark skinned are called Arab's despite being very different in appearance to Palestinians (a significant number of which are christian)
 
I recently saw an article about DNA tests performed on identical triplets. The DNA company used to do the testing was "23 and Me".

The test results showed that each of the triplets had variations of ancestral origin that were unlike the others. So the question is: Why the variations?

As far as I know, that question hasn't been answered yet.

But the article concluded that perhaps the type of testing methods by companies who enterprise in ancestral origins might currently be considered as "entertainment" rather than reliable, fact based information.

According to the same article there are companies who don't market their DNA research to the public, but have much more reliable types of testing and access to a wider range of data, but that their services would be cost prohibitive for "most people" who might want to solicit these companies to do a more reliable form of tests.
 
I know who my mom and dad are. I know who my grand parents are.



That's enough for me.
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
Arab's are not a religious group, they are more of a loose cultural group defined by language. Arab Sudanese who can be very dark skinned are called Arab's despite being very different in appearance to Palestinians (a significant number of which are christian)
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Ah....crap. Right.
 
MaggieD said:
There’s one that does animal DNA testing, or there used to be. Find out what kind of mitt your dog is. I laughed because they also wanted his picture. I wonder if the people ones want a picture, too...

Edit... and I also wonder what’s happening to all those DNA samples matched to names and addresses.
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I know someone who got that dog tested. The results were absolutely ludicrous, nothing about that dog resembles anything in the DNA test results. I'm pretty sure they either got the testing mixed up with another dog, or that it is totally made up fakeness.

I would hope that human DNA testing might be more accurate.
 
MaggieD said:
There’s one that does animal DNA testing, or there used to be. Find out what kind of mitt your dog is. I laughed because they also wanted his picture. I wonder if the people ones want a picture, too...

Edit... and I also wonder what’s happening to all those DNA samples matched to names and addresses.
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BINGO!!!! That's why when my daughter gave me one for my birthday, I didn't use it. I don't need someone having my DNA results on file.
 
blackjack50 said:
These are awesome. Will help keep those stupid white trash rednecks from claiming to be 1/36 Cherokee apache seminole. What is the deal with that?
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Have you been following the genetic testing of Cherokee indians? Turns out, they have very little native american genes (in some cases zero native indian gene markers), they are mostly southern european. There was no mention in history of the Cherokee indian until the mid 1800's, which is making some people wonder if they ever really existed. Also, the earliest explorers referred to some indian tribes as the "white indians", which leads to the possiblity that some "native american tribes" were actually earlier settlers from Europe.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
wait, so you can use this test to tell if you are a white dude, a black dude, or an arab?


wow..... what a brave new world! ;)
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It is interesting for people who have some sort of mix just a few generations back. In Appalachia often times records were not kept well when you go back a hundred years or so. We had a family story that my great great grandfather was part Cherokee, but when my dad took the DNA test he turned up with some amount of Spanish.
 
Perotista said:
I have a genealogy book that lists all generations from 1652 the year my family set foot in America. In the preface it discribes how the family traveled from Brittany France to Scotland and then on to America. It also gave several locations where graves sites in France and Germany where variations of my last name were. Quite extensive.

Upon leaning that Brittany was Celtic, I got interested in Ancestry DNA and in one of their specials sent my stuff in. There wasn't much difference in the results that what the genealogy book showed. 52% Western European, 35% Great Britain, 6% Scandinavian, 3% Iberian Peninsula all were expected given the family history.

What wasn't expected was that 2% European Jewry and 2% Indian from India, not America. But perhaps that Indian India can be explained as my is a gulf in the Indian Ocean named after my family name. Seafarers a lot of them were.
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The 2% Jew could be part of the lost tribes of Israel that moved into Europe and they may have carried genes from Priests from India who started the Jewish Religion.

imagep said:
Have you been following the genetic testing of Cherokee indians? Turns out, they have very little native american genes (in some cases zero native indian gene markers), they are mostly southern european. There was no mention in history of the Cherokee indian until the mid 1800's, which is making some people wonder if they ever really existed. Also, the earliest explorers referred to some indian tribes as the "white indians", which leads to the possiblity that some "native american tribes" were actually earlier settlers from Europe.
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William Penn, who founded Pennsylvania and the Quaker Religion, believed that the Native Americans were the lost tribes of Israel.
 
Aberration said:
If you want to know if you are related to Mary Queen of Scots, then no. If you want to know if your ancestors came from France or Japan or Africa, then yes.


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I would say that 'france' is too narrow a definition, but 'western European' probably wouldn't be.
 
Exquisitor said:
The 2% Jew could be part of the lost tribes of Israel that moved into Europe and they may have carried genes from Priests from India who started the Jewish Religion.
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Sorry to quote myself, but rather than edit, What does this mean to all you white Supremacists who hate Jews?
 
Exquisitor said:
The 2% Jew could be part of the lost tribes of Israel that moved into Europe and they may have carried genes from Priests from India who started the Jewish Religion.



William Penn, who founded Pennsylvania and the Quaker Religion, believed that the Native Americans were the lost tribes of Israel.
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Anything is possible.
 
Exquisitor said:
The 2% Jew could be part of the lost tribes of Israel that moved into Europe and they may have carried genes from Priests from India who started the Jewish Religion.



William Penn, who founded Pennsylvania and the Quaker Religion, believed that the Native Americans were the lost tribes of Israel.
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And what did he base that on? Just asking.

I have heard of people making that same claim before, but I didn't know it had anything to do with Quakers.
 
The an estory stuff only mildly interests me but the other part about being able to tell you if your susceptible to certain medical stuff does interest me. Does anyone know if that part is accurate?

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