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    Re: Monarchy

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    After watching some footage on tv, I came to wonder why kings and queens are still held in such high regard. Why do people make such fuzz over them? Is it comparable to idolizing celebrities?
    What purpose do these blue bloods serve really?
    British royal celebrities serve for the commonwealth to cover up the ugly face of the empire.
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    Re: Monarchy

    Quote Originally Posted by Sweden View Post
    The Queen could have refused to sign legislation which made EU courts superior to English courts. This would have led to a constitutional crisis; what the outcome would have been we will never know. Imo the Queen was guilty of moral cowardness.

    The position of the English so-called 'Supreme' Court differs from that of the German High Court. The former acknowledges the supremacy of EU law and courts.
    I had noted that and found it remarkable, when the German Court ruled as it did. After all, that means that legally the largest country of the EU does not accept EU law as supreme but its own. So it is really quite odd that other countries in the EU would view their law as subsidiary and would be a significant split of the EU that would be albeit less visible much more important than say Schengen/Dublin, if a crunch came to a shove.
    It is also quite amusing in its way for the EU to demand as an essential covenant of Brexit that the UK submit to European courts, when not all members accept that subservience.

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    Re: Monarchy

    Quote Originally Posted by C R O I X View Post
    Would you say in Sweden people would rather have a demagogic populist dictator or a army dictatorship? Because it is what comes up when the political establishment collapse.
    The decision to strip the Swedish monarchy of its few remaining powers was not taken by 'the people' -very little is here (on re-reading make that 'nothing'). Decisions are taken by a narrow elite, comprising the leading cliques in a few political parties, the MSM and a very few other centres of influence.

    The idea of the barely existing Swedish army installing a dictatorship is hilarious - though you cannot be expected to know that.

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    Re: Monarchy

    Quote Originally Posted by Sweden View Post
    The decision to strip the Swedish monarchy of its few remaining powers was not taken by 'the people' -very little is here (on re-reading make that 'nothing'). Decisions are taken by a narrow elite, comprising the leading cliques in a few political parties, the MSM and a very few other centres of influence.

    The idea of the barely existing Swedish army installing a dictatorship is hilarious - though you cannot be expected to know that.
    I think you are right generally speaking. I didn't say the choice about monarch was from people or any other group. What I am saying is that it is an available choice when something drastic happens. When I talked about army dictatorship I was not referring specific to Sweden now a days but again in general terms.

    Remember that society is in constant changing and in 20, 40 or 60 Years Sweden and any other country will very likely to be very different. What Sweden is now will not remain the same forever.

    Remember also that sometimes people actually choose who will be in charge despite the control of such choice of the narrow few elite before. Venezuela is an example of it. If there was a monarch family in Venezuela would people choose to give power to them instead of the militar Hugo Chaves? I suspect the answer is Yes.
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    Re: Monarchy

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    British royal celebrities serve for the commonwealth to cover up the ugly face of the empire.
    That's also true.
    "Ideological thought: Laziness: it's easier to apply a doctrine to everything at once than to think through complex issues; Ignorance: the less you know about a problem the easier you think it is to solve; Malevolence: it's great to find the enemy in others so that you have someone against who to direct your resentment". - Jordan Peterson

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    Re: Monarchy

    Quote Originally Posted by C R O I X View Post
    I think you are right generally speaking. I didn't say the choice about monarch was from people or any other group. What I am saying is that it is an available choice when something drastic happens. When I talked about army dictatorship I was not referring specific to Sweden now a days but again in general terms.

    Remember that society is in constant changing and in 20, 40 or 60 Years Sweden and any other country will very likely to be very different. What Sweden is now will not remain the same forever.

    Remember also that sometimes people actually choose who will be in charge despite the control of such choice of the narrow few elite before. Venezuela is an example of it. If there was a monarch family in Venezuela would people choose to give power to them instead of the militar Hugo Chaves? I suspect the answer is Yes.

    Fair enough. In 20, 40 or 60 years Sweden will probably be an Islamic Republic and a benighted theocracy.

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