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New paragola

poweRob

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Installed a new paragola. It was pretty much a cheap metal put-together-by-numbers thing but they actually expected you to tie it to the ground with skinny little tent stakes. So I laser leveled and poured concrete footers and bolted it to the concrete. It ain't goin' nowhere.

Next step is to lay flagstone underneath and get some patio furniture.

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After we get the flagstone down we want to plant some vines at each leg and let those take over. It's why I went with metal over wood.
 
Not bad for a libtard.
 
Not bad for a libtard.

I used to do some assistant work for a general contractor and I had his libtard ass help me. He had the laser level. :lol:
 
After we get the flagstone down we want to plant some vines at each leg and let those take over. It's why I went with metal over wood.

Looks to be better than many such kits which lack the upper corner braces - they improve stability a lot.
 
Looks to be better than many such kits which lack the upper corner braces - they improve stability a lot.

It's such cheap metal that one of the legs has a crease in it from crushing a little in transport. I guess it was on the bottom in the semi trailer.
 
I used to do some assistant work for a general contractor and I had his libtard ass help me. He had the laser level. :lol:

Laser levels are nice toys but us poor folks use water levels with considerable success. ;)
 
Laser levels are nice toys but us poor folks use water levels with considerable success. ;)

I laugh at you poor people. So averse to electricity and whatnot.
 
It's such cheap metal that one of the legs has a crease in it from crushing a little in transport. I guess it was on the bottom in the semi trailer.

You get what you pay for - sometimes. ;)
 
You get what you pay for - sometimes. ;)

Yeah. I think wood would look much prettier but I wanted metal because I want to overgrow it with vines and I didn't want to concern myself with rot. This one's a bit more of a set it and forget it.
 
Installed a new paragola. It was pretty much a cheap metal put-together-by-numbers thing but they actually expected you to tie it to the ground with skinny little tent stakes. So I laser leveled and poured concrete footers and bolted it to the concrete. It ain't goin' nowhere.

Next step is to lay flagstone underneath and get some patio furniture.

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The word is pergola. The fence height is low. No privacy from prying neighbors?
 
It's such cheap metal that one of the legs has a crease in it from crushing a little in transport. I guess it was on the bottom in the semi trailer.
Thin aluminum? It looks great and will keep that blistering sun off you. I recently helped a friend build an aviary for FIVE squacking parrots. We used one of these steel portable carports frames for the roof and trusses. Put roofing tin on it and used chain link and hardware mesh everywhere.

He got free pavers off of craigslist. Turned out be a lot of work, we used 6x6 set in concrete for the uprights.

You did good on it, such additions increase property values.
 
The word is pergola. The fence height is low. No privacy from prying neighbors?

You're right. When i was shopping for it I just called it a shade structure. Had no idea what to call it. that neighbor has a rather large yard and we are not only well away from his house but it's also downhill on the other side of that fence. I've never seen that guy. The fence on the left side is well high enough but the fence on the right side of the yard... too low. Not liking that but that is also where that shade cloth is pulled down lower for more sun blocking and privacy from that side.
 
I laugh at you poor people. So averse to electricity and whatnot.

when you get ball cancer from playing around with laser beams dont come crying to me :mrgreen:
 
when you get ball cancer from playing around with laser beams dont come crying to me :mrgreen:

:lol:

I'm not too concerned. It's not mine. I worked for that guy who helped me and I think we used it maybe four times in a few years. He's used it a ton though for other projects before and since.
 
Less setup time. Faster results.

OK, but I bill my work by the hour. ;)

I occasionally rent or borrow such specialty tools but for that distance and only 4 points using one of the top bars and a 4' level on it would be my choice for that task. Even if you are off by 1/16" the vines won't care.
 
:lol:

I'm not too concerned. It's not mine. I worked for that guy who helped me and I think we used it maybe four times in a few years. He's used it a ton though for other projects before and since.

I got a string level I have never had call to use but they great for fencing.
 
OK, but I bill my work by the hour. ;)

I occasionally rent or borrow such specialty tools but for that distance and only 4 points using one of the top bars and a 4' level on it would be my choice for that task. Even if you are off by 1/16" the vines won't care.

True but that far corner was actually off by just over a foot. So raising it I think helps the looks.
 
True but that far corner was actually off by just over a foot. So raising it I think helps the looks.

I wasn't advocating skipping that important step just offering other methods to accomplish it. Laser levels are fine when line of sight is not obstructed but my water level method works fine for leveling pier and beam structures where line of sight is obstructed by all manner of stuff - it is amazing how much junk folks have stashed under their buildings.
 
I wasn't advocating skipping that important step just offering other methods to accomplish it. Laser levels are fine when line of sight is not obstructed but my water level method works fine for leveling pier and beam structures where line of sight is obstructed by all manner of stuff - it is amazing how much junk folks have stashed under their buildings.

Yep. I had a beer can collection I started when I was 11. Family members would chip in and send me weird ones when they came across them. I have a 1935 cone cap Valley Forge beer can that was under a house that was demolished. Looks just like this one.

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Pergola now with, at best, my very mediocre flagstone work. Next step, little shallow metal fire pit and then the patio furniture.

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I just ended up having to rip down my pergola because the building inspector said the former residents didn't bother to get a permit. Of course, I had to go take it down on my own because we were having the house re-roofed and it was attached to the old roof. Now I have a back yard full of wood and am going to have to build a whole new pergola. Joy.
 
I just ended up having to rip down my pergola because the building inspector said the former residents didn't bother to get a permit. Of course, I had to go take it down on my own because we were having the house re-roofed and it was attached to the old roof. Now I have a back yard full of wood and am going to have to build a whole new pergola. Joy.

Man sorry about that permit issue. That sucks. Couldn't they work a belated permit for it for you to get?
 
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