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I'm dragging myself to school tomorrow

Seems way too early for back to school. My wife goes back to teaching on the third of August. I don't see a problem with giving kids Memorial Day to Labor Day. ****, they're going to work almost every weekday all year round with very little vacation for the rest of their lives. Might as well have a chance to enjoy summer now.
 
Helix said:
Seems way too early for back to school. My wife goes back to teaching on the third of August. I don't see a problem with giving kids Memorial Day to Labor Day. ****, they're going to work almost every weekday all year round with very little vacation for the rest of their lives. Might as well have a chance to enjoy summer now.
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Actually, I would prefer "year-round" school so they don't have a giant chunk of time to forget almost everything they've learned. I think a month is the most summer vacation should be, really....
 
JamesBY said:
Bob, your meme demonstrates that you don't get what Trump did. And it is worse than silly to defend the president's juvenile rant to the boy scouts.
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What the heck are you talking about? Get out of my thread with that crap.
 
JamesBY said:
Bob, your meme demonstrates that you don't get what Trump did. And it is worse than silly to defend the president's juvenile rant to the boy scouts.
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Way to ruin a totally non-partisan thread. :applaud
 
Josie said:
Actually, I would prefer "year-round" school so they don't have a giant chunk of time to forget almost everything they've learned. I think a month is the most summer vacation should be, really....
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I disagree. Having a longer summer break gave me a chance to have a lot of fun experiences as a kid. Also, it provided me with time for self guided learning and a nice long break from stress in order to recharge. I miss that a lot.
 
Helix said:
I disagree. Having a longer summer break gave me a chance to have a lot of fun experiences as a kid. Also, it provided me with time for self guided learning and a nice long break from stress in order to recharge. I miss that a lot.
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There are pros and cons to each. Certainly kids need time to be kids and that seems to increasingly being taken away from them (and I don't necessarily mean just by schools). But, on the other hand, Josie is correct as well. Kids forget information when they're not constantly using it and so often school spends far too much time at the beginning of the year re-teaching what they were taught at the end of the previous year.

There are many pros and cons to each argument (for example, by the time May comes around, kids are mentally checked out because they're exhausted). I just don't know what the right answer is.
 
Winston said:


yeah, i got nothing beyond this.
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First and foremost, a Big Thank You to all of you former and current teachers! I did two stints as a sub. The first in 1999/2000 School Year in over 20 of the 41 schools in the district. The 2nd at a High School Military Charter School.

I retired, age 42, early in 1999. Later that year, a scandal erupted in the Manatee County School District. The Superintendent, almost five years into his job and only one of two Superintendents ever to come from outside the District, had a falling out with four out of five elected School Board members. Through two elections during the Superintendent's tenure, the personalities of the school members changed significantly. Even though the Superintendent took every issue seriously, never stonewalled, had lowered taxes, raised test scores and updated curriculum to meet state standards... he didn't talk with a local accent and he didn't use the pre-existing small town leadership style. Back then, besides 41 schools, the district had 39000+/- students and 4000+/- employees.

I believe successful teaching requires a deep passionate commitment and a collaborative relationship with students, parents, other teachers, administration and community. God Bless each and every one of you who can navigate that gauntlet!
 
Josie said:
By this time I'm usually hoppin' at the chance to get back in my classroom and get it ready for the new year. This year I'm like.........

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Inspiration and/or motivation, anyone?
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You must keep spry so as to fulfill the requirement of liberal indoctrination that our schools do for our children. j/k

I used to be inspired by the smells.

You'd come back and remember the chalk smell and everyone had clothes that still smelled like the store they bought them at. :lol:
 
Josie said:
Assessments! How I love them.......said no teacher or student ever.

I take that back --- SOME assessments are great data. Some are a complete waste of time that just stress out the kids and the teachers.
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And mandated to you by people who have little idea how the education system works but thought it sounded good.

I have a friend who taught 3rd grade in Phoenix and they elected a hardliner "ENGLISH ONLY!!11!!!" guy as super that made it a fireable offense to speak to your kids in spanish. So they had kids who only knew spanish sitting in their classrooms that they couldn't talk to. They couldn't teach them English because translating was a fireable offense. It was really sad.
 
poweRob said:
And mandated to you by people who have little idea how the education system works but thought it sounded good.

I have a friend who taught 3rd grade in Phoenix and they elected a hardliner "ENGLISH ONLY!!11!!!" guy as super that made it a fireable offense to speak to your kids in spanish. So they had kids who only knew spanish sitting in their classrooms that they couldn't talk to. They couldn't teach them English because translating was a fireable offense. It was really sad.
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Yeah, that's stupid. In order to teach someone a different language, you have to be able to communicate with them in their native language.
 
Helix said:
I disagree. Having a longer summer break gave me a chance to have a lot of fun experiences as a kid. Also, it provided me with time for self guided learning and a nice long break from stress in order to recharge. I miss that a lot.
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The thing I see with the son of my best friend is that their timing gets off on their meds. He wrestles and I'm trying to get him to weigh in every AM at 9:00 to break him in to school time again, chart his weight to see what he drifts at night, and to write down when he takes his meds. I compromised on him doing it on his phone.

The real problem with parents here is that they let their kids not take meds all summer. It takes a kid 9 weeks or so just to get his meds back under control again .
 
Thought of this thread when I read this:

"If we want girls in STEM, we need to rethink how we deliver education," Obama told the crowd, using the acronym for science, technology, engineering and mathematics. "Teachers, a kind word can mean the world to a young girl."
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Michelle Obama speaks in Denver - CNNPolitics.com
 
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