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Non-poll survey: Entertainment and politics

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Non-poll survey: Entertainment and politics

Was listening to a talk show yesterday and someone emailed in and said they were put off when they paid $200 for tickets to a Roger Waters* concert and were greeted with what they felt was a 2 hour anti-Trump rally. I couldn't help but nod my head in agreement. As much as I loathe Trump, I would feel the same way.

How do you feel about stuff like this?

Personally, I hate it. For the most part, I don't listen to music for politics. I like many musicians with whom I disagree completely politically. As long as they get my groove right, so to speak, we're all good. And I sure as hell won't appreciate spending my hard-earned money to go and be politically indoctrinated.

That being said, I can make two exceptions, cases where I will accept and approve of political slants...

1) They are a politically-themed act to begin with. Fair enough, that's who they are.
2) They are performing at an openly-advertised political event. Again, fair enough.

Other than that, no, STFU and play/sing your damn songs.

*-Please, no comments about your dislike for Waters, Pink Floyd, how 'no talent' he is, etc. That's not the point of the thread, he's just the example at hand.
 
I'd be put off paying $200 for entertainment too, which is why I don't do that. At my age, looking at patterns in the carpet is entertaining, and if I couple that with music, the effect is nearly overwhelming. In reality, with which I have only a passing association, the arts are generally anti-Trump and anti-republican, so most people should not be surprised if such sentiments are expressed. I'm not, which is why I said spending $200 on such things might be a mistake if one is expecting a politically free evening.
 
radcen said:
Non-poll survey: Entertainment and politics

Was listening to a talk show yesterday and someone emailed in and said they were put off when they paid $200 for tickets to a Roger Waters* concert and were greeted with what they felt was a 2 hour anti-Trump rally. I couldn't help but nod my head in agreement. As much as I loathe Trump, I would feel the same way.

How do you feel about stuff like this?

Personally, I hate it. For the most part, I don't listen to music for politics. I like many musicians with whom I disagree completely politically. As long as they get my groove right, so to speak, we're all good. And I sure as hell won't appreciate spending my hard-earned money to go and be politically indoctrinated.

That being said, I can make two exceptions, cases where I will accept and approve of political slants...

1) They are a politically-themed act to begin with. Fair enough, that's who they are.
2) They are performing at an openly-advertised political event. Again, fair enough.

Other than that, no, STFU and play/sing your damn songs.

*-Please, no comments about your dislike for Waters, Pink Floyd, how 'no talent' he is, etc. That's not the point of the thread, he's just the example at hand.
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Agreed.
These people are given far to large a platform for their often shallow beliefs.
I want the monkeys to dance and sing, not try feed me their politics.
 
If I paid good money for a concert and got a political sermon, I'd be pretty pissed too. I think over all, entertainers start to think too much of themselves. With all the money and constant attention, the easy access to the press; it seems that they begin to think that their opinion is better or more deservedly heard. They don't want to acknowledge the truth. Unless one's particular form of entertainment is built around political content, we don't really care. Entertainers, while rich and spoiled and isolated from the rest of society, are the court jesters. They sing and dance for our entertainment and ultimately will have very little impact on the direction and history of humanity.

So if you have a concert, then sing your songs and dance your dance and make the people happy, then be on your way. Give them what they paid for, not some sermon about crap no one came to hear.
 
radcen said:
Non-poll survey: Entertainment and politics

Was listening to a talk show yesterday and someone emailed in and said they were put off when they paid $200 for tickets to a Roger Waters* concert and were greeted with what they felt was a 2 hour anti-Trump rally. I couldn't help but nod my head in agreement. As much as I loathe Trump, I would feel the same way.

How do you feel about stuff like this?

Personally, I hate it. For the most part, I don't listen to music for politics. I like many musicians with whom I disagree completely politically. As long as they get my groove right, so to speak, we're all good. And I sure as hell won't appreciate spending my hard-earned money to go and be politically indoctrinated.

That being said, I can make two exceptions, cases where I will accept and approve of political slants...

1) They are a politically-themed act to begin with. Fair enough, that's who they are.
2) They are performing at an openly-advertised political event. Again, fair enough.

Other than that, no, STFU and play/sing your damn songs.

*-Please, no comments about your dislike for Waters, Pink Floyd, how 'no talent' he is, etc. That's not the point of the thread, he's just the example at hand.
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If you can't take the heat, don't go to the kitchen. If you don't want liberal politics, don't go to where it is sold, is all I can say.

;)
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
Agreed.
These people are given far to large a platform for their often shallow beliefs.
I want the monkeys to dance and sing, not try feed me their politics.
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Lots of our voters seem to disagree. That is why we got Obama and Trump.
 
Ikari said:
If I paid good money for a concert and got a political sermon, I'd be pretty pissed too. I think over all, entertainers start to think too much of themselves. With all the money and constant attention, the easy access to the press; it seems that they begin to think that their opinion is better or more deservedly heard. They don't want to acknowledge the truth. Unless one's particular form of entertainment is built around political content, we don't really care. Entertainers, while rich and spoiled and isolated from the rest of society, are the court jesters. They sing and dance for our entertainment and ultimately will have very little impact on the direction and history of humanity.

So if you have a concert, then sing your songs and dance your dance and make the people happy, then be on your way. Give them what they paid for, not some sermon about crap no one came to hear.
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Right. Even if I agree with them, that's not what I paid my time and money for.
 
If I want to talk politics I go to a townhall meeting, a rally, log on to DP or watch some news. If I want to escape it all, I want entertainment. Try finding a TV show that doesn't revolve around some issue or another. Makes me so sick, we are thinking about selling our TV and go fishing instead.
 
joG said:
If you can't take the heat, don't go to the kitchen. If you don't want liberal politics, don't go to where it is sold, is all I can say.

;)
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That goes two ways, albeit admittedly not as often.

In 2000 I saw Ted Nugent open for KISS. This was in California, and in the middle of his set he went on a 5 minute rant about the "pieces of ****" in California politics, and he named all the liberals by name, i.e. Barbara Boxer, and so on. Boxer was his 'favorite', apparently.

Now, I will admit, as a contradiction somewhat, that I was mildly amused. In a train-wreck this-guy-is-beyond-belief kind of way. I find Nugent fascinating... from a distance (I think he'd be a total asshole in person). He's way too extreme for me politically, but I didn't necessarily disagree with some of his thoughts. I seriously have never liked Boxer, for example. However, I would have preferred he did another song instead.
 
radcen said:
That goes two ways, albeit admittedly not as often.

In 2000 I saw Ted Nugent open for KISS. This was in California, and in the middle of his set he went on a 5 minute rant about the "pieces of ****" in California politics, and he named all the liberals by name, i.e. Barbara Boxer, and so on. Boxer was his 'favorite', apparently.

Now, I will admit, as a contradiction somewhat, that I was mildly amused. In a train-wreck this-guy-is-beyond-belief kind of way. I find Nugent fascinating... from a distance (I think he'd be a total asshole in person). He's way too extreme for me politically, but I didn't necessarily disagree with some of his thoughts. I seriously have never liked Boxer, for example. However, I would have preferred he did another song instead.
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On German public tv a while ago they showed Madonna's rant but not the song. ;)
 
radcen, being amused by it and accepting it is different. Having paid for the ticked and not knowing what was coming, I might be tempted to stay for the entertainment. That might be hypocritical but also serves my pocketbook. I would, however, complain about that part of the evening to anyone who would listen.
Entertainers have to realize that they are good at what they do, but that doesn't make them an expert on anything else, and they should have enough respect to know that I don't have to waste my hard earned money to be lectured by any of them. Their opinion is worth as much as the next guys, and they should know that there is a time and place for everything. If they are being invited to some talk show, let them have their say. I can then choose whether to tune in or not.
 
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