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Cancelled my Chicago Tribune subscription...

MaggieD

MaggieD

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I've been a Tribune reader for years. Stopped getting the newspaper four or five years ago and, in the last two years, began paying for their Andreoid app on my IPad.

Just cancelled it a few weeks ago when I noticed they'd begun listing their editorial comment right in with news headlines and not marking it. Called to express my displeasure and cancelled.

I consider that to be misleading and unethical.

You?
 
I used to deliver the Trib back in the early 70's.
 
MaggieD said:
I've been a Tribune reader for years. Stopped getting the newspaper four or five years ago and, in the last two years, began paying for their Andreoid app on my IPad.

Just cancelled it a few weeks ago when I noticed they'd begun listing their editorial comment right in with news headlines and not marking it. Called to express my displeasure and cancelled.

I consider that to be misleading and unethical.

You?
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A person in this day and age should have many, many, many sources for their news. Count yourself fortunate that you can tell the difference between news reporting and editorializing. Many of your fellow countrymen are not that enlightened or only care to read/view those outlets that only reinforce what they believe already. It's a shame that a large part of those that claim to pay attention cannot or will not engage in civil/calm exchange of ideas. Differing viewpoints soon devolve into personal assaults and no one gets anywhere. A source this weekend says they think that the entire process is emotionally charged and things will not improve until everyone is willing to listen to views/ideas that may run contrary to the ones they hold. Just need to look at our representatives and their constant toeing of the party line regardless of the best interests of the people they claim to look out for. I could go on for a while, gonna sign off for now.
 
MaggieD said:
I've been a Tribune reader for years. Stopped getting the newspaper four or five years ago and, in the last two years, began paying for their Andreoid app on my IPad.

Just cancelled it a few weeks ago when I noticed they'd begun listing their editorial comment right in with news headlines and not marking it. Called to express my displeasure and cancelled.

I consider that to be misleading and unethical.

You?
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Sorry to hear that Maggie. I still get the daily Detroit Free Press as it has three good crossword puzzles and that is mainly what I get out of it. It is hardly ever that any of the news is actually news to me because of all the other sources available.

I do pay for the e version of the NY Times.
 
Houston, used to be a two paper town, but times advance and one main paper closed down and was absorbed.
With only one paper (Houston Chronicle), they don't have any competition to keep them honest.
I stopped subscribing about 15 years ago, but even then they were fairly biased, it has only gotten worse.
 
MaggieD said:
I've been a Tribune reader for years. Stopped getting the newspaper four or five years ago and, in the last two years, began paying for their Andreoid app on my IPad.

Just cancelled it a few weeks ago when I noticed they'd begun listing their editorial comment right in with news headlines and not marking it. Called to express my displeasure and cancelled.

I consider that to be misleading and unethical.

You?
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It seems you could tell the difference so I guess I'm not really seeing the problem. Can you elucidate?
 
Rexedgar said:
A person in this day and age should have many, many, many sources for their news. Count yourself fortunate that you can tell the difference between news reporting and editorializing. Many of your fellow countrymen are not that enlightened or only care to read/view those outlets that only reinforce what they believe already. It's a shame that a large part of those that claim to pay attention cannot or will not engage in civil/calm exchange of ideas. Differing viewpoints soon devolve into personal assaults and no one gets anywhere. A source this weekend says they think that the entire process is emotionally charged and things will not improve until everyone is willing to listen to views/ideas that may run contrary to the ones they hold. Just need to look at our representatives and their constant toeing of the party line regardless of the best interests of the people they claim to look out for. I could go on for a while, gonna sign off for now.
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Well said.
 
Winchester said:
It seems you could tell the difference so I guess I'm not really seeing the problem. Can you elucidate?
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Many people forget the difference. Or don't see it. Editorial content, imo, should be readily apparent. It shouldn't be buried in real news.
 
With news organanizations credibility in the tank these days, I really have little faith in any of them being objective, any longer.
 
MaggieD said:
Many people forget the difference. Or don't see it. Editorial content, imo, should be readily apparent. It shouldn't be buried in real news.
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The rank and file need alerts in print and TV advertisements that are too similar to news. 'The following is a paid advertisement.'
In print magazines there is a caution at the top and bottom of the page 'Advertising Supplement.'
 
Slingshot Bob said:
With news organanizations credibility in the tank these days, I really have little faith in any of them being objective, any longer.
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SB, tell me have experienced 'the second most important day' in your life yet?
 
Yeah, that is annoying. It is like when pharmacies stick homeopathic medicine on the same shelves as real medicine. Give it its own clearly labeled section so I can easily avoid it. :)
 
I saw video footage of Rachel Maddow claiming that steel, comes from iron, no Rachel, iron is but one of 3 elements that steel is made from. Don't they have people that check basic facts before going on national TV?

Interestingly, I googled this to post her ignorance, no matter how I googled it, I could not find it even though she said it on air.
 
Slingshot Bob said:
I saw video footage of Rachel Maddow claiming that steel, comes from iron, no Rachel, iron is but one of 3 elements that steel is made from. Don't they have people that check basic facts before going on national TV?

Interestingly, I googled this to post her ignorance, no matter how I googled it, I could not find it even though she said it on air.
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:lol: You sound like my son who's a metallurgical/materials engineer. He can go on and on about steel and carbon content.
 
MaggieD said:
I've been a Tribune reader for years. Stopped getting the newspaper four or five years ago and, in the last two years, began paying for their Andreoid app on my IPad.

Just cancelled it a few weeks ago when I noticed they'd begun listing their editorial comment right in with news headlines and not marking it. Called to express my displeasure and cancelled.

I consider that to be misleading and unethical.

You?
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I miss the days when news was news. Now we have editorializing from both sides of the political spectrum.
 
Slingshot Bob said:
I saw video footage of Rachel Maddow claiming that steel, comes from iron, no Rachel, iron is but one of 3 elements that steel is made from. Don't they have people that check basic facts before going on national TV?

Interestingly, I googled this to post her ignorance, no matter how I googled it, I could not find it even though she said it on air.
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Iron ore deposits are what steel is made from. Sure it goes through a process and is combined with other elements, metals i.e. to make stainless steel, but she's not wrong.

No iron ore no steel. As simple as that.
 
MaggieD said:
Many people forget the difference. Or don't see it. Editorial content, imo, should be readily apparent. It shouldn't be buried in real news.
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Yellow Journalism is all the rage now, whats old is new again. William Randolph Hearst said it succinctly "You give me the pictures I will give you the war." Sums up todays journalism nicely I think. It will go back around. Then back again. Then back again.
 
MaggieD said:
I've been a Tribune reader for years. Stopped getting the newspaper four or five years ago and, in the last two years, began paying for their Andreoid app on my IPad.

Just cancelled it a few weeks ago when I noticed they'd begun listing their editorial comment right in with news headlines and not marking it. Called to express my displeasure and cancelled.

I consider that to be misleading and unethical.

You?
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It has become par for the course and is beginning to resemble European handling of news. You cannot read just one or two platforms any more. That leaves you with the feeling to understand what happens. But you have only one sided stories and remain selectively informed.
 
EnigmaO01 said:
Iron ore deposits are what steel is made from. Sure it goes through a process and is combined with other elements, metals i.e. to make stainless steel, but she's not wrong.

No iron ore no steel. As simple as that.
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Semantics, but steel is made with iron, steel does not come from iron. A correct statement may have gone like this" Steel is made with iron and other elements"
 
MaggieD said:
I've been a Tribune reader for years. Stopped getting the newspaper four or five years ago and, in the last two years, began paying for their Andreoid app on my IPad.

Just cancelled it a few weeks ago when I noticed they'd begun listing their editorial comment right in with news headlines and not marking it. Called to express my displeasure and cancelled.

I consider that to be misleading and unethical.

You?
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Good morning Maggie - hope you're feeling good these days.

I'm not entirely sure when it happened, but there used to be a time when there was such a thing in print media as an OP ED page where the editors and select "opinion leaders" voiced their personal views of the day's events/politics and the rest of the paper was occupied by strict "reporting" of the news - facts based recapping of events of the previous day with no editorial content. Then, at least a couple of decades ago, reporters/journalists decided that they had valid opinions as well and they strewed their fact based reporting with their own colour commentary of those events. The sad part is that editors decided they liked or would tolerate that intrusion on reporting and now the entirety of print media, and much of over the air media, is occupied solely by commentary. It's a sad decline but one readily recognized by older people such as myself, but not so easily recognized by younger people who haven't seen the alternative.
 
Welcome to the 21st century.
 
MaggieD said:
I've been a Tribune reader for years. Stopped getting the newspaper four or five years ago and, in the last two years, began paying for their Andreoid app on my IPad.

Just cancelled it a few weeks ago when I noticed they'd begun listing their editorial comment right in with news headlines and not marking it. Called to express my displeasure and cancelled.

I consider that to be misleading and unethical.

You?
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Exactly. An editorial belongs on the editorial page. Opinions are opinions, some based on fact, others no. Just based on feelings. Regardless, editorials don't belong with the news or even worst, as headlines.
 
Seriously, anyone reads a newspaper anymore? We cancelled our subscription decades ago.
 
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