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azgreg

azgreg

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I want to post this here instead of in the climate, science, or off topic forums because there is more traffic here. Plus I don't want this thread to be so political in nature.

The azgreg household is going solar.....finally.

Me and SWMBO have been wanting to go solar for some time now but local politics in the area of net metering have slowed our decision some what.

After doing some research and talking to neighbors and friends we decided to go with Vivint Solar.

https://www.vivintsolar.com/

They basically had three options for us. We could buy outright, lease to own (20 years), or just buy power from them while they own the panels. The first two options we would get all the tax and rebate benefits while the third option we wouldn't. We basically came down to two requirements. We had to substantially reduce our electric bill and it had to be pretty worry free. With these two requirements we decided on option three. Currently we are on an equalizer plan with APS and out monthly bill is a tad over $200 a month. With Vivint our bill will be just a tad over $120 a month plus we won't have to worry about peak time crap.
 
azgreg said:
I want to post this here instead of in the climate, science, or off topic forums because there is more traffic here. Plus I don't want this thread to be so political in nature.

The azgreg household is going solar.....finally.

Me and SWMBO have been wanting to go solar for some time now but local politics in the area of net metering have slowed our decision some what.

After doing some research and talking to neighbors and friends we decided to go with Vivint Solar.

https://www.vivintsolar.com/

They basically had three options for us. We could buy outright, lease to own (20 years), or just buy power from them while they own the panels. The first two options we would get all the tax and rebate benefits while the third option we wouldn't. We basically came down to two requirements. We had to substantially reduce our electric bill and it had to be pretty worry free. With these two requirements we decided on option three. Currently we are on an equalizer plan with APS and out monthly bill is a tad over $200 a month. With Vivint our bill will be just a tad over $120 a month plus we won't have to worry about peak time crap.
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Congrats Greg! Ive wanted to do that for a very long time. Now that we've bought our own house that time may be coming finally.

I can think of very few things as satisfying as the thought of telling a utility to piss off... And you send me a check each month instead.
 
poweRob said:
Congrats Greg! Ive wanted to do that for a very long time. Now that we've bought our own house that time may be coming finally.
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Thanks Rob. With the new solar rules coming to our area in July we needed to pull the trigger soon.
 
azgreg said:
Thanks Rob. With the new solar rules coming to our area in July we needed to pull the trigger soon.
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Yeah, lots of solar changes coming
 
I have SRP, last year I didn't have a single bill that hit $200, I have a big house, but only heat/cool the back part where I live. I'd like to do solar, but I need a new roof first. I have one of those great old Hallcraft homes built in 1957, and I double paned all the windows.....the best way to get your bills down!
 
azgreg said:
I want to post this here instead of in the climate, science, or off topic forums because there is more traffic here. Plus I don't want this thread to be so political in nature.

The azgreg household is going solar.....finally.

Me and SWMBO have been wanting to go solar for some time now but local politics in the area of net metering have slowed our decision some what.

After doing some research and talking to neighbors and friends we decided to go with Vivint Solar.

https://www.vivintsolar.com/

They basically had three options for us. We could buy outright, lease to own (20 years), or just buy power from them while they own the panels. The first two options we would get all the tax and rebate benefits while the third option we wouldn't. We basically came down to two requirements. We had to substantially reduce our electric bill and it had to be pretty worry free. With these two requirements we decided on option three. Currently we are on an equalizer plan with APS and out monthly bill is a tad over $200 a month. With Vivint our bill will be just a tad over $120 a month plus we won't have to worry about peak time crap.
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I hope you and the rest of the leaches and deadbeats enjoy the solar panels that taxpayers are buying for you.
 
Mac77 said:
I hope you and the rest of the leaches and deadbeats enjoy the solar panels that taxpayers are buying for you.
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... this is your hill to die on?

The taxpayer, by and large, doesn't give a **** about solar subsidies compared to every other way his taxes are wasted.

Do you eat vegetables? From which farmer? I hope your belly was full of those welfare greens ya LOOTING SCUM! :lol:
 
azgreg said:
I want to post this here instead of in the climate, science, or off topic forums because there is more traffic here. Plus I don't want this thread to be so political in nature.

The azgreg household is going solar.....finally.

Me and SWMBO have been wanting to go solar for some time now but local politics in the area of net metering have slowed our decision some what.

After doing some research and talking to neighbors and friends we decided to go with Vivint Solar.

https://www.vivintsolar.com/

They basically had three options for us. We could buy outright, lease to own (20 years), or just buy power from them while they own the panels. The first two options we would get all the tax and rebate benefits while the third option we wouldn't. We basically came down to two requirements. We had to substantially reduce our electric bill and it had to be pretty worry free. With these two requirements we decided on option three. Currently we are on an equalizer plan with APS and out monthly bill is a tad over $200 a month. With Vivint our bill will be just a tad over $120 a month plus we won't have to worry about peak time crap.
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Where I live there is a tax on solar voltaic that makes it unreasonable.
 
Mac77 said:
I hope you and the rest of the leaches and deadbeats enjoy the solar panels that taxpayers are buying for you.
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Thanks for participating. Have a great day.
 
joG said:
Where I live there is a tax on solar voltaic that makes it unreasonable.
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It really sucks that some places make it harder to use a source of energy that will be around as long as we are.
 
beefheart said:
I have SRP, last year I didn't have a single bill that hit $200, I have a big house, but only heat/cool the back part where I live. I'd like to do solar, but I need a new roof first. I have one of those great old Hallcraft homes built in 1957, and I double paned all the windows.....the best way to get your bills down!
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The lady that lives next door had some electric bills that hit $500 this summer. Crazy.
 
azgreg said:
The lady that lives next door had some electric bills that hit $500 this summer. Crazy.
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Are they the houses with 2 stories or high ceilings? I replaced my A/C a year ago, and everything was much cheaper this year!

My house is brick with an attic, walls insulated, etc. Nothing gets out or in.
 
I keep kicking around the idea of going solar, our old house didn't point in the right direction and there were too many trees, but the new one is perfect for it so I'll probably pull the trigger one of these days and get some panels installed. The thing is, our new house doesn't use nearly the power that our old one did, even running the A/C all summer, we never had a monthly electric bill that was very high. Still, at least half the people around me have panels on the roof so clearly, it's worthwhile.
 
beefheart said:
Are they the houses with 2 stories or high ceilings? I replaced my A/C a year ago, and everything was much cheaper this year!

My house is brick with an attic, walls insulated, etc. Nothing gets out or in.
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Nope, just a single story house like mine but a bit larger at 1700 sf. She does have a freezer in the garage and a hot tub though. She's got to have something wrong going on.
 
Spartacus FPV said:
... this is your hill to die on?

The taxpayer, by and large, doesn't give a **** about solar subsidies compared to every other way his taxes are wasted.

Do you eat vegetables? From which farmer? I hope your belly was full of those welfare greens ya LOOTING SCUM! :lol:
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Taxpayers care about all government waste

This one just happens to be one of the most offensive forms of it to many Americans who do not believe in taking handouts like beggars on the street
 
beefheart said:
Are they the houses with 2 stories or high ceilings? I replaced my A/C a year ago, and everything was much cheaper this year!

My house is brick with an attic, walls insulated, etc. Nothing gets out or in.
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How much free taxpayer money did you get?
 
azgreg said:
Nope, just a single story house like mine but a bit larger at 1700 sf. She does have a freezer in the garage and a hot tub though. She's got to have something wrong going on.
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Hot tubs are monsters on energy. I rented a place with one once...couldn't keep it on all the time, burned so much power.
 
Mac77 said:
How much free taxpayer money did you get?
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None.

I couldn't go to the real high seer ratings because the A/C is on a flat foam roof that just got repaired a few months before. We would have had to re-foam parts of it, and that is never ever good. So I got one that had a higher seer, but the same footprint.
 
beefheart said:
None.

I couldn't go to the real high seer ratings because the A/C is on a flat foam roof that just got repaired a few months before. We would have had to re-foam parts of it, and that is never ever good. So I got one that had a higher seer, but the same footprint.
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Good for you

I am all for energy improvements that private citizens pay for with their own money
 
Mac77 said:
Taxpayers care about all government waste

This one just happens to be one of the most offensive forms of it to many Americans who do not believe in taking handouts like beggars on the street
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Got a link to that data?
 
azgreg said:
Got a link to that data?
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I suppose you have a poll that shows a majority of hardworking Americans are thrilled to buy your solar panels for you
 
Mac77 said:
Good for you

I am all for energy improvements that private citizens pay for with their own money
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No. I would have gotten one with tax rebates if I could. It is a good investment, if more people are using less electricity, it is better for everyone.

I fully support tax rebates for the homeowner....for gigantic oil companies? Not so much.
 
azgreg said:
It really sucks that some places make it harder to use a source of energy that will be around as long as we are.
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My house is perfect for solar, it faces due south, and gets unfettered sun all day long. I wish the solar water heaters were still around, I need a new one. But, I need a new roof first, I will be done with the mortgage by November this year, so a new roof will follow.

Other posters here don't understand how perfect AZ is for solar power...too bad our corrupt corporation commission is in the pocket of APS and SRP...
 
beefheart said:
No. I would have gotten one with tax rebates if I could.

It is a good investment,

if more people are using less electricity, it is better for everyone.

I fully support tax rebates for the homeowner....for gigantic oil companies? Not so much.
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Its an even better investment when you take it out of your neighbors pocket and put it in yours

Better luck next time
 
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