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Signs men are emasculated part 2: Men scared to talk of certain topics

Mr Person said:
Maybe they simply couldn't find any ****s to give about your topic. Did you consider that?




(Nevermind that the claim you are making is bizarre. Men are emasculated because some unidentified authority figure told you that they are emasculated and that this is the reason they ignored your posts? What? No wonder people didn't bother with it.)
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Seems quite emasculating to obey an authority figure and not make up your own mind, but that's just me, what do you think?
 
Henrin said:
When I was growing up I was taught that men speak their mind, speak towards topics that concern them and say what needs to be said, but today many men will not speak towards certain topics and act like it is not masculine to do so. I don't know where this idea of fear as a masculine trait came from, but it runs counter to a great deal of what I know of the topic and the history of the idea itself. In part one of this series for example I was told that speaking towards body shaving of men was not masculine and many men avoided the topic in a very cowardly way like they knew somehow the topic was off limits for them to speak towards or that they were scared of being judged for what they had to say on it.

If you ask me men and women should not be scared of topics that might come up and not be scared to offered their true opinion on the topic being discussed if they in fact have an opinion to share. Feminists told women to not hide their beliefs to themselves and to express themselves as free thinking individuals. This was presented as something women should do and be proud of doing like it was a badge of honor they wore on their chest as they went about their life, but it seems during this time regressed from speaking their mind to fear of doing all the while developing this weird idea in their head that men should hide their opinion on certain hand chosen forbidden topics, like for example, the topic of part one of this series. Somehow along the way men found a safe space for themselves that they are free from being called coward for their quite frankly pussified and timid behavior. Not only do I think this behavior should in fact end, but that men should have enough courage and bravery to challenge this new idea that sprung up from cowardly men and their influence.

I don't imagine many people here agree with me, but I still welcome your input on the topic.
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Henrin said:
You need to learn to debate. You should never debate the poster and instead always debate the topic. This pretty much 101 debating stuff.
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Debating 101 also requires that one not start off a debate topic with completely false premises.
 
Henrin said:
I'm not butthurt in any way. :shrug: The series is about things men are doing that emasculates them, and since there is plenty of men that act like huge ******s when certain topics come up either all the time or in certain situations not only was this thread needed, but an example was needed to argue it. The last thread just turned out to have a large quality of men doing the things in the OP and thus work as an example.
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You are the one angry that people are questioning your weird body hair hangups and your idea of masculinity.

You should shave your body, then go have wild sex with your mate, then decide if you are less masculine. If you really want to be a subject matter expert, you will experiment, rather than rant.
 
Henrin said:
You need to learn to debate. You should never debate the poster and instead always debate the topic. This pretty much 101 debating stuff.
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You are the topic. You made yourself the arbiter of what is masculine, based on your own feelings rather than by any actual concrete evidence.

You seem to be the only person that feels emasculated by others who have different body hair habits than you.
 
beefheart said:
Henrin is projecting.

So much.
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Nah. I think he thinks that he found a really valid point to make and is going with it and ignoring how stupid of an argument it is.
 
Idk, i see a lot of men happy to disagree here. The only person i've seen who seems to think men are afraid to speak is Henrin.
 
americanwoman said:
Just on this forum alone I see many men speaking their mind on a variety of topics and never scared to provide an opinion on anything. :shrug:
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Make me a sammich.
 
Henrin said:
That's not how it seems to me. Some are comfortable with it, but others are not from where I sit.



I'm not concerned that no one agrees and in fact I expected it going in since 95% of straight men do it. If I got wide acceptance to what I was saying from men on the board then I would have to question that 95% of men actually do the activity.
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Where did you get that 95% figure from?

I asked you once before but now it appears that you might've been too scared to answer...

http://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-a...rimming-their-body-hair-5.html#post1066743134
 
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Moot said:
Where did you get that 95% figure from?

I asked you once before but now it appears that you might've been too scared to answer...

http://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-a...rimming-their-body-hair-5.html#post1066743134
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I didn't see your other post. :shrug: Do you have any idea how many people responded to me yesterday? Needless to say it was more than the who quoted you page holds by a good bit. Anyway, I will likely respond to your post in the other thread with the information you want.
 
americanwoman said:
Just on this forum alone I see many men speaking their mind on a variety of topics and never scared to provide an opinion on anything. :shrug:
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Hemrin is wondering where all the people that agree with him are. The truth is, the idea of shaving ones own chest rarely crosses the mind of an abstracted man likely an average woman as well.
 
When is part 3 coming Henrin ?
I tremble with anticipation.
 
Henrin said:
What? I accepted all the criticism of the position that was provided, but just don't find much criticism that was directed my position in the thread to speak of.
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Of course there was criticism for your position. Your entire position was torpedoed as it was a false premise logical fallacy. It's like as soon as you mentioned your premise, it was already a failure just by it's mere structure.
 
Henrin said:
That's not how it seems to me. Some are comfortable with it, but others are not from where I sit.
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That's nothing but your own projection based on your false premise... you know, the one that has completely destroyed your position.
 
Signs men are emasculated part 10: Men who disagree with 9 topics about emasculation...
COMING SOON!

:lamo
 
Henrin said:
I'm not butthurt in any way. :shrug: The series is about things men are doing that emasculates them, and since there is plenty of men that act like huge ******s when certain topics come up either all the time or in certain situations not only was this thread needed, but an example was needed to argue it. The last thread just turned out to have a large quality of men doing the things in the OP and thus work as an example.
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No, this series is NOT about things that men do that emasculated themselves. This series is about several things:

1) What YOU believe men do that emasculate themselves, based on YOUR opinion and YOUR opinion, ONLY.
2) How YOU form arguments based on false dichotomies and fail to correct yourself when this is pointed out.
3) YOUR desire to soapbox issues, not actually discuss them.

But, ultimately, this series is about you. You've chosen to create it, have demonstrated interest in it, and have shown a desire to have no disagreement about it. This series reflects who you are, how you formulate arguments, and how you handle disagreement.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
No, this series is NOT about things that men do that emasculated themselves. This series is about several things:

1) What YOU believe men do that emasculate themselves, based on YOUR opinion and YOUR opinion, ONLY.
2) How YOU form arguments based on false dichotomies and fail to correct yourself when this is pointed out.
3) YOUR desire to soapbox issues, not actually discuss them.

But, ultimately, this series is about you. You've chosen to create it, have demonstrated interest in it, and have shown a desire to have no disagreement about it. This series reflects who you are, how you formulate arguments, and how you handle disagreement.
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Out of curiosity, do you believe there is any way to objectively measure the masculinity or aggressiveness or whatever else of a man of a culture?
 
Koke said:
Out of curiosity, do you believe there is any way to objectively measure the masculinity or aggressiveness or whatever else of a man of a culture?
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Nope. Firstly, the perception of masculinity differs from culture to culture and also from time period to time period... even from locality to locality. And secondly, what is or is not masculine may have some consistencies, but ultimately is entirely subjective.
 
I'm scared to speak on any topic.

I do wax instead of shave. Like a real man would.

Did I say too much? <cowers>
 
Henrin said:
When I was growing up I was taught that men speak their mind, speak towards topics that concern them and say what needs to be said, but today many men will not speak towards certain topics and act like it is not masculine to do so. I don't know where this idea of fear as a masculine trait came from, but it runs counter to a great deal of what I know of the topic and the history of the idea itself. In part one of this series for example I was told that speaking towards body shaving of men was not masculine and many men avoided the topic in a very cowardly way like they knew somehow the topic was off limits for them to speak towards or that they were scared of being judged for what they had to say on it.

If you ask me men and women should not be scared of topics that might come up and not be scared to offered their true opinion on the topic being discussed if they in fact have an opinion to share. Feminists told women to not hide their beliefs to themselves and to express themselves as free thinking individuals. This was presented as something women should do and be proud of doing like it was a badge of honor they wore on their chest as they went about their life, but it seems during this time regressed from speaking their mind to fear of doing all the while developing this weird idea in their head that men should hide their opinion on certain hand chosen forbidden topics, like for example, the topic of part one of this series. Somehow along the way men found a safe space for themselves that they are free from being called coward for their quite frankly pussified and timid behavior. Not only do I think this behavior should in fact end, but that men should have enough courage and bravery to challenge this new idea that sprung up from cowardly men and their influence.

I don't imagine many people here agree with me, but I still welcome your input on the topic.
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It isn't fear buddy it's gay.
 
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