Have you ever wondered....?

MaggieD · Dec 22, 2016

...Why, when trainer assistants are working with police dogs, do they offer an arm and keep it moving?

...If you are trying to stop an attacker of others, which side should you come from?

...If the attacker has a gun, what is your main objective?

...How should a high profile protectee be instructed to work a meet-and-greet cordoned line?

I find this stuff fascinating...

TheGoverness · Dec 22, 2016

MaggieD said:
...Why, when trainer assistants are working with police dogs, do they offer an arm and keep it moving?

...If you are trying to stop an attacker of others, which side should you come from?

...If the attacker has a gun, what is your main objective?

...How should a high profile protectee be instructed to work a meet-and-greet cordoned line?

I find this stuff fascinating...

To answer the 3rd Question. If there's a gun, I would try my best to peacefully de-escalate the situation as much as possible, but if I can't, I'd just ****ing book it.

Captain Adverse · Dec 22, 2016

MaggieD said:
...Why, when trainer assistants are working with police dogs, do they offer an arm and keep it moving?

For a couple of reasons. First, the arm that is closest to the victim usually has the weapon. Control that arm and the officer can take further action with less threat.

But train a dog to go for the leg and the perpetrator can shoot or stab the dog.

Second, weapon or no weapon, striking the arm and pulling at it will put and keep the perpetrator off balance with his attention focused on the dog. That gives the officer/owner more options.

MaggieD said:
......If you are trying to stop an attacker of others, which side should you come from?

That depends on where you are located. It is best to come from behind and strike; or if in front then twist/step in and to the outside of the arm holding the weapon while pushing the arm away and across the perpetrator's body. This keeps the weapon pointed away while also making it hard for the perp to use his other hand against you. Then use a takedown/disarm method to remove the weapon from his control.

MaggieD said:
...If the attacker has a gun, what is your main objective?

If too close to run, then to close with and disarm/kill him while keeping out of the line of fire. If far enough away, then to seek cover and evade while calling for help.

MaggieD said:
...How should a high profile protectee be instructed to work a meet-and-greet cordoned line?

I can't answer that. Perhaps someone who has been a bodyguard can. :shrug:

MaggieD · Dec 22, 2016

Captain Adverse said:
For a couple of reasons. First, the arm that is closest to the victim that usually has a weapon. Control that arm and the officer can take further action with less threat.

But train a dog to go for the leg and the perpetrator can shoot or stab the dog.

Second, weapon or no weapon, striking the arm and pulling at it will put the perpetrator off balance and focused on the dog.

That depends on where you are located. It is best to come from behind and strike; or if in front then step to the outside of arm holding the weapon while pushing the arm holding it away and across the perpetrator's body. This keeps the weapon pointed away while also making it hard for the perp to use his other hand against you. Then use a disarm method to remove the weapon from his control.

To disarm him while keeping out of the line of fire.

I can't answer that. Perhaps someone who has been a bodyguard can. :shrug:

Great answers. I'll weigh in after a while, giving others an opp to see it if they care to answer. I love your reasoning...

SMTA · Dec 22, 2016

MaggieD said:
...Why, when trainer assistants are working with police dogs, do they offer an arm and keep it moving?

...If you are trying to stop an attacker of others, which side should you come from?

...If the attacker has a gun, what is your main objective?

...How should a high profile protectee be instructed to work a meet-and-greet cordoned line?

I find this stuff fascinating...

Then Google police dog training.

Skeptic Bob · Dec 22, 2016

Also when a large dog is yanking on your arm it throws your whole center of gravity off and is easier to take you down.

MaggieD · Dec 23, 2016

TheGoverness said:
To answer the 3rd Question. If there's a gun, I would try my best to peacefully de-escalate the situation as much as possible, but if I can't, I'd just ****ing book it.

Captain Adverse said:
For a couple of reasons. First, the arm that is closest to the victim usually has the weapon. Control that arm and the officer can take further action with less threat.

But train a dog to go for the leg and the perpetrator can shoot or stab the dog.

Second, weapon or no weapon, striking the arm and pulling at it will put and keep the perpetrator off balance with his attention focused on the dog. That gives the officer/owner more options.

That depends on where you are located. It is best to come from behind and strike; or if in front then twist/step in and to the outside of the arm holding the weapon while pushing the arm away and across the perpetrator's body. This keeps the weapon pointed away while also making it hard for the perp to use his other hand against you. Then use a takedown/disarm method to remove the weapon from his control.

If too close to run, then to close with and disarm/kill him while keeping out of the line of fire. If far enough away, then to seek cover and evade while calling for help.

I can't answer that. Perhaps someone who has been a bodyguard can. :shrug:

SMTA said:
Then Google police dog training.

BrewerBob said:
Also when a large dog is yanking on your arm it throws your whole center of gravity off and is easier to take you down.

MaggieD said:
...Why, when trainer assistants are working with police dogs, do they offer an arm and keep it moving?

if an attacking police dog doesn't get push back, he's trained to let go and grab somewhere else.

...If you are trying to stop an attacker of others, which side should you come from?

If the choice is left or right, approach from the left...presumably and statistically the attacker's non dominant side. Less muscle strength to fight against you.

...If the attacker has a gun, what is your main objective?

To destroy aim. Apprehension can come seconds later. Push down on the attacker's arm. Pushing any other way is likely to result in wild shots hitting a target.

...How should a high profile protectee be instructed to work a meet-and-greet cordoned line?

He should stand back from the ropes so that he has to reach for handshakes. And the crowd had to lean in, therefore off balance. The handshake should be sissy like so that someone can't easily pull him into the ropes.

Probably no one's interested in this stuff but me, but again, I find it fascinating. Oh, and one more thing. Every attack on a high profile target, every assassination attempt, happens at the exact same time.

NOW!

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Have you ever wondered....?

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