• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Offended by a black Santa?[W:113]

Re: Offended by a black Santa?

The bright side is that no one was assaulted or threatened with scissors for "cultural appropriation."
 
Re: Offended by a black Santa?

poweRob said:
Interesting how race, even in fiction land, is so extremely important to some.


Let's see how many hackles can be raised.


Miles Morales is to replace Peter Parker as first black Spider-Man in Marvel comics

The teenage son of an African-American father and Puerto Rican mother will become the first black character and second Latino to portray Spider-Man in the official Marvel Comics universe.​

Oh noes!!11!!!
Click to expand...

Let's not pretend comic book nerd rage is representative of the general public.
 
Re: Offended by a black Santa?

I demand racial accuracy for fictional, magical beings.
 
Re: Offended by a black Santa?

Deuce said:
Let's not pretend comic book nerd rage is representative of the general public.
Click to expand...

NERDs ROCK!
 
Re: Offended by a black Santa?

Cardinal said:
I demand racial accuracy for fictional, magical beings.
Click to expand...

... and just when I was about to break out my brown unicorn.
 
Re: Offended by a black Santa?

americanwoman said:
Right? If you're lying to your kids about Santa anyway and the elves, the North Pole, and everything else why not throw in something else as well and expanding your child's mind to be accepting of different things, is my thought.
Click to expand...

Bingo! If the parents are all aghast, the kids are thinking "whoa, mommy and daddy are acting like he isn't the real santa, 'cause the real santa only comes in white!"

Meanwhile, for dozens of decades black children were repeatedly shown by society that there were only white santas, and deep down they wondered if Christmas was only for white kids.

Parents had an opportunity to lead by example, showing excitement and happiness to their children for their "santa" visit, and instead showed only bigotry and anger. What a damn shame.
 
Re: Offended by a black Santa?

I don't have a link, and I don't care enough to go look for one, but my memory tells me that I've seen plenty of black Santas before. I'm pretty sure this isn't new. Hence, I am failing to see why this is such a big deal, either good or bad. :shrug:

That being said, with all the recent drama over "cultural appropriation", I am mildly amused. Double standards always entertain me, the more ridiculous the better.
 
Re: Offended by a black Santa?

Wasn't Santa actually St. Nicholas and from Asia minor or Turkey?

So he could have been white or black but was most likely somewhere in between. :thumbs:

Under race what box did he check on his application for sainthood?:lamo
 
Re: Offended by a black Santa?

DiAnna said:
Bingo! If the parents are all aghast, the kids are thinking "whoa, mommy and daddy are acting like he isn't the real santa, 'cause the real santa only comes in white!"

Meanwhile, for dozens of decades black children were repeatedly shown by society that there were only white santas, and deep down they wondered if Christmas was only for white kids.

Parents had an opportunity to lead by example, showing excitement and happiness to their children for their "santa" visit, and instead showed only bigotry and anger. What a damn shame.
Click to expand...

I agree it is a damn shame.

And we haven't even gotten to discussing Santa slave driving those elves yet! :2razz:
 
Re: Offended by a black Santa?

Tucker Case said:
A whole ****load of the people who are "alarmed" by this that are also saying, "I'm not racist or anything, I just think that a black Santa isn't very historically accurate" or "It's not that I'm racist, but what do I tell my children?!?!? I mean, he's..." at this point the speaker will lift their head to look around and then lean in conspiratorially and whisper "black."

It's truly astounding how many racist dumb ****s there are that will scream from the mountaintops about how not racist they are.
Click to expand...

Perhaps the government could conduct non-racist certifications. The score could be kept in a database and be considered during the employment process.
 
Re: Offended by a black Santa?

BrewerBob said:
The modern day depiction of Santa was created by Coca-Cola so I don't see why it should be held sacrosanct.

This particular black Santa is a hell of a lot more photogenic than the Santas my kids always wind up getting their pictures with.
Click to expand...

Right? He's a better looking Santa than most of the Santa's I had my pictures taken with.
 
Re: Offended by a black Santa?

Cardinal said:
I demand racial accuracy for fictional, magical beings.
Click to expand...

Funny how no one is demanding that we accept Barney as green or pink, or Popeye as an Arab.
 
Re: Offended by a black Santa?

Excon said:
Funny how no one is demanding that we accept Barney as green or pink, or Popeye as an Arab.
Click to expand...

I demand racial and religious accuracy for them too!
 
Re: Offended by a black Santa?

Excon said:
Funny how no one is demanding that we accept Barney as green or pink, or Popeye as an Arab.
Click to expand...

Does anyone really truly care what color Barney is or if Popeye is an Arab or a space alien? If I saw a blue Barney I would simply turn it off just like I do to a purple Barney. Who the hell cares? There's children starving in this world, worry about them not how some imaginary person/animal is being represented.
 
Re: Offended by a black Santa?

americanwoman said:
Does anyone really truly care what color Barney is or if Popeye is an Arab or a space alien? If I saw a blue Barney I would simply turn it off just like I do to a purple Barney. Who the hell cares? There's children starving in this world, worry about them not how some imaginary person/animal is being represented.
Click to expand...
Doh!
It wouldn't be Barney if he was blue.
This thread also isn't about starving children. If you are concerned with them start a thread. Maybe then you will find others that are as dismissive about what concerns you as you are about what concerns them.
 
Re: Offended by a black Santa?

Infinite Chaos said:
Oh dear, my biggest disappointment was that the CBS and Star Tribune didn't switch off because the website couldn't cope with the numbers of people defending Mr Gamble or the choice of him being the first Black Santa for Mall of America. :(
Click to expand...

Here's the rub .... the original St. Nicholas or Nikolaos of Myra was born in Turkey of Greek ancestry, and was probably brown or dark brown skinned, who liked to give unannounced gifts. The common depiction of Santa Clause today comes from a 19th century depiction created by Thomas Nast who was an illustrator, and further refiled through the 20th century until business got behind the icon and promoted Santa Clause and depictions of a jolly fat man in a red suit.

People who cannot cope with a black santa or for that matter find it offensive are just as ignorant and moronic as those who find Christmas music offensive. I have no time for either set of imbeciles.
 
Re: Offended by a black Santa?

Excon said:
Doh!
It wouldn't be Barney if he was blue.
This thread also isn't about starving children. If you are concerned with them start a thread. Maybe then you will find others that are as dismissive about what concerns you as you are about what concerns them.
Click to expand...



Why exactly can Barney only be purple?
 
Re: Offended by a black Santa?

Ockham said:
Here's the rub .... the original St. Nicholas or Nikolaos of Myra was born in Turkey of Greek ancestry, and was probably brown or dark brown skinned,
Click to expand...
Being Greek, of a wealthy family in an area settled by Greeks, prior to the invading Muslim hordes, would likely indicate a lighter skin color.
 
Re: Offended by a black Santa?

Excon said:
Being Greek, of a wealthy family in an area settled by Greeks, prior to the invading Muslim hordes, would likely indicate a lighter skin color.
Click to expand...

That's what I said, brown or dark brown skinned.
 
Re: Offended by a black Santa?

Ockham said:
That's what I said, brown or dark brown skinned.
Click to expand...
That is not what I said.
He is of a wealthy family of Greek decent so most likely lighter in color. Not dark or brown.
 
Re: Offended by a black Santa?

Excon said:
That is not what I said.
He is of a wealthy family of Greek decent so most likely lighter in color. Not dark or brown.
Click to expand...

Can you prove that? Because depictions of him in painting show him as being brown.

You say lighter... lighter than what exactly?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom