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Who here supports Trumpcare?

azgreg said:
If just a smidge of what's in that thread is true it's a complete **** show.
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The House GOP just keeps finding more and more ways to make this far worse than just a straight repeal (which was a terrible idea to begin with).
 
Slingshot Bob said:
Exactly what conservatives said about ACA, evidently, for good reasons. Here we are, after all.
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We gave you plenty of homework. You shouldn't be talking yet.
 
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They decided the first iterations of the AHCA wouldn't screw enough people so they decided to take a whack at employer-based coverage, too: Little-Noted Provision of GOP Health Bill Could Alter Employer Plans

The ACA prevents employer plans from putting annual limits on the amount of care they will cover, and it bars lifetime limits on the 10 essential benefits. But in 2011, the Obama administration issued guidance stating that employers aren’t bound by the benefits mandated by their state and can pick from another state’s list of required benefits. That guidance was mostly meaningless because the ACA established a national set of essential benefits.

Under the House bill, large employers could choose the benefit requirements from any state—including those that are allowed to lower their benchmarks under a waiver, health analysts said. By choosing a waiver state, employers looking to lower their costs could impose lifetime limits and eliminate the out-of-pocket cost cap from their plans under the GOP legislation. . .

The impact on employer plans expands the scope of the health bill to affect, potentially, everyone not insured by Medicare or small-business plans, since the bill also includes cuts to Medicaid and changes to the individual market. Employer health plans are the single largest source of health insurance in the country, with about 159 million Americans receiving coverage through their jobs.
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This will go well.
 
CriticalThought said:
Since the bill will be likely voted on this week, I wonder how many people actually like it and believe it will be good for the country.
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Anything that involves putting health insurance in the hands of government will fail and be bad for the country.
 
Greg Walden embracing the post-truth future by denying the most trustworthy analytics available to Congress, along with every other respected research entity.

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So after Trump threatens to run primary challenges against the loons in his party, he completely capitulates to them

There's a winning negotiator

Didn't Hitler deprive 24 million of health care too?
 
Slingshot Bob said:
Tell that to states with double digit rises in premiums and fleeing providers......
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the only logical response to that is single payer not this turd sandwich
 
fmw said:
Based on history.
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What history is that?
 
fmw said:
The history of Obamacare. The current bill will be as disastrous as the ACA. Take off your blinders.
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Your argument is that since you didn't like Obamacare, it is impossible for a government to effectively regulate healthcare?

How do you reconcile that ****ty line of thinking with the reality of several dozen other developed nations who effectively regulate healthcare with their governments?
 
Absentglare said:
Your argument is that since you didn't like Obamacare, it is impossible for a government to effectively regulate healthcare?

How do you reconcile that ****ty line of thinking with the reality of several dozen other developed nations who effectively regulate healthcare with their governments?
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No my argument is that the federal government has already proven its inability to manage the health insurance industry. If single payer is successful in other countries I would surmise their governments are more competent than ours. I neither like nor dislike Obamacare. I just see that it is a failure.
 
CriticalThought said:
Since the bill will be likely voted on this week, I wonder how many people actually like it and believe it will be good for the country.
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Why do you call it Trumpcare? He has nothing to do with it. He didn't write it, he hasn't really spoken out for it much. Heck, it hasn't even come to his desk for his signature (and it likely never will).

You'd be more honest if you called it GOPCare.
 
Mycroft said:
Why do you call it Trumpcare? He has nothing to do with it. He didn't write it, he hasn't really spoken out for it much. Heck, it hasn't even come to his desk for his signature (and it likely never will).

You'd be more honest if you called it GOPCare.
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Those phone calls two days ago were just golfing invitations.

Our pitiful President may be habitually lazy, but you would have to be awfully credulous to believe he hadn't hitched his wagon to the AHCA.
 
Fiddytree said:
Those phone calls two days ago were just golfing invitations.

Our pitiful President may be habitually lazy, but you would have to be awfully credulous to believe he hadn't hitched his wagon to the AHCA.
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Even so, it's still not his bill...even if he does like it. Now...if it ever makes it to his desk and he doesn't veto it, THEN you can probably call it Trumpcare if you want to.

I'm predicting it doesn't get to his desk.
 
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