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    Unions might have to pay more for healthcare

    Unions, employers square off over ObamaCare costs in collective bargaining | Fox News

    as it stands while some employers are willing to pay a part of the so called ACA increase they are not going to foot the entire bill.
    this has lead to several union contracts to stall.

    more so public union contract which shouldn't be up for neogiation anyway.

    some unions have threatened strikes. as companies struggle to meet the additional costs of the so called affordable healthcare act
    they are wanting unions to pay more of the cost while they try to stay competative with other companies.

    strike another one up for the disaster of the ACA.

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    Re: Unions might have to pay more for healthcare

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    Unions, employers square off over ObamaCare costs in collective bargaining | Fox News

    as it stands while some employers are willing to pay a part of the so called ACA increase they are not going to foot the entire bill.
    this has lead to several union contracts to stall.

    more so public union contract which shouldn't be up for neogiation anyway.

    some unions have threatened strikes. as companies struggle to meet the additional costs of the so called affordable healthcare act
    they are wanting unions to pay more of the cost while they try to stay competative with other companies.

    strike another one up for the disaster of the ACA.
    Have unions never had to negotiate health care costs with their employers prior to ACA?


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    Re: Unions might have to pay more for healthcare

    I see a pattern here, the unions were for it (since they were exempt) before they were against it.
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    Re: Unions might have to pay more for healthcare

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    Unions, employers square off over ObamaCare costs in collective bargaining | Fox News

    as it stands while some employers are willing to pay a part of the so called ACA increase they are not going to foot the entire bill.
    this has lead to several union contracts to stall.

    more so public union contract which shouldn't be up for neogiation anyway.

    some unions have threatened strikes. as companies struggle to meet the additional costs of the so called affordable healthcare act
    they are wanting unions to pay more of the cost while they try to stay competative with other companies.

    strike another one up for the disaster of the ACA.
    There seems to be a contradiction here - since a public union's employer has no competition.

    Unions always want more for their members, regardless of the issue involved. Every dollar in added fringe benefits is worth more than a dollar in added salary since it is non-taxable.
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    Re: Unions might have to pay more for healthcare

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    There seems to be a contradiction here - since a public union's employer has no competition.

    Unions always want more for their members, regardless of the issue involved. Every dollar in added fringe benefits is worth more than a dollar in added salary since it is non-taxable.
    It is more than just public unions. if you read the article airline unions, vegas unions and other unions are all having the same problem.
    companies are refusing to foot the entire bill for the suppose affordable care act.

    they are wanting union members to eat the costs. unions tried to neogiate out of it but it was stopped before they could do anything.

    unions are furious at obama of this as they didn't think it would affect them.

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    Re: Unions might have to pay more for healthcare

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    Unions, employers square off over ObamaCare costs in collective bargaining | Fox News

    as it stands while some employers are willing to pay a part of the so called ACA increase they are not going to foot the entire bill.
    this has lead to several union contracts to stall.

    more so public union contract which shouldn't be up for neogiation anyway.

    some unions have threatened strikes. as companies struggle to meet the additional costs of the so called affordable healthcare act
    they are wanting unions to pay more of the cost while they try to stay competative with other companies.

    strike another one up for the disaster of the ACA.
    Health premiums going up happened before the ACA. Union employers often tried to work it into CBAs, and it has caused strikes before.

    While you could say that the ACA has failed to fix that problem, saying that it caused the problem is disingenous.


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    Re: Unions might have to pay more for healthcare

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    It is more than just public unions. if you read the article airline unions, vegas unions and other unions are all having the same problem.
    companies are refusing to foot the entire bill for the suppose affordable care act.

    they are wanting union members to eat the costs. unions tried to neogiate out of it but it was stopped before they could do anything.

    unions are furious at obama of this as they didn't think it would affect them.
    I have shirt-tail family that's in the road building union in the Chicago area. When the ACA was first passed, he was furious -- taking the stance of his union -- that it was going to cost them money. You know...like the rest of the world. Six months later, he nudged me and said, "We're happy now...it's not going to effect us." Wink*Wink.

    It ends up being just one more thing they will negotiate for. *shrug*

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    Re: Unions might have to pay more for healthcare

    wow. thanks for bringing this faux news story to our attention:
    unions and employers will have to negotiate conditions of employment
    who would have guessed
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Unions might have to pay more for healthcare

    This is really disingenuous. I can find plenty of reasons to hate the ACA without blaming it for the issues of rising costs that predated it.
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    Re: Unions might have to pay more for healthcare

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I see a pattern here, the unions were for it (since they were exempt) before they were against it.
    From an article in today's Wall Street Journal on this topic -

    Jim Ray, a lawyer who represents the Laborers International Union of North America in benefits negotiations, said these provisions have increased construction-industry health plans' costs by 5% to 10%, and already resulted in lower wages for some laborers. He said employers are frequently seeking contract language to cap their own liability for future cost increases from the law.

    "When we first supported the calls for health-care reform, we thought it was going to bring costs down," he said.
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