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Why Cuomo panders to NYC

Republicans are going to have to win suburban voters, they can't win elections without them.
 
holbritter said:
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New York state has a population of over 19 million, making it the 4th most populous state in the country. Almost half of the residents of the state live in New York City, which has an estimated population of 8,550,405 people. New York City is the largest city by population in the United States. This far exceeds the number of people recorded in the second most populous city, Buffalo, which has just 258,071 inhabitants. Rochester, Yonkers, and Syracuse are the remaining cities that have populations exceeding 100,000. Albany, the state capital, has a population of 98,469 people, making it the 6th most populous in the state. (Source)
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Anyone who wants to win statewide in NY had better appeal to NYC voters. NYC voters comprise nearly half the population of the state, and including the NYC metro area (not including New Jersey), they likely do comprise half the state's population. One'd have to be an idiot not to.


I could be mistaken, but I suspect NY is a relatively easy state in which to campaign for statewide office...Campaign in and run up the vote in the major metropolitan areas and that's about it...there being so few folks in the rest of the state.


I have no idea what be the OP-er's political leanings, but I know that conservatives like to share maps that show lots of red on them. That's all well and good, and I suppose it makes them feel good to see all that red. But the fact of the matter is that red covers a lot of sparsely to uninhabited land, and people, not land areas, vote. Indeed, about 63% of the US population live in cities and their suburbs. Put another way, 63% of the population occupy ~4% of the country's land area.

So it's, of course, not at all difficult to obtain a map with lots of red on it, but there just aren't that many folks, in any given state, in those red areas. To see where people are, one needs to look at the blue areas.
 
MovingPictures said:
Republicans are going to have to win suburban voters, they can't win elections without them.
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Red:
Well, that's obviously not so because there are republicans who hold statewide elected offices.

It is more likely so that Republicans cannot win statewide office if Democrats obtain adequate voter turnout in cities and suburbs.
 
The blue counties are where people live. I live in one of them.

Those electoral maps are stupid. Land does not vote.
 
Xelor said:
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New York state has a population of over 19 million, making it the 4th most populous state in the country. Almost half of the residents of the state live in New York City, which has an estimated population of 8,550,405 people. New York City is the largest city by population in the United States. This far exceeds the number of people recorded in the second most populous city, Buffalo, which has just 258,071 inhabitants. Rochester, Yonkers, and Syracuse are the remaining cities that have populations exceeding 100,000. Albany, the state capital, has a population of 98,469 people, making it the 6th most populous in the state. (Source)
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Anyone who wants to win statewide in NY had better appeal to NYC voters. NYC voters comprise nearly half the population of the state, and including the NYC metro area (not including New Jersey), they likely do comprise half the state's population. One'd have to be an idiot not to.


I could be mistaken, but I suspect NY is a relatively easy state in which to campaign for statewide office...Campaign in and run up the vote in the major metropolitan areas and that's about it...there being so few folks in the rest of the state.


I have no idea what be the OP-er's political leanings, but I know that conservatives like to share maps that show lots of red on them. That's all well and good, and I suppose it makes them feel good to see all that red. But the fact of the matter is that red covers a lot of sparsely to uninhabited land, and people, not land areas, vote. Indeed, about 63% of the US population live in cities and their suburbs. Put another way, 63% of the population occupy ~4% of the country's land area.

So it's, of course, not at all difficult to obtain a map with lots of red on it, but there just aren't that many folks, in any given state, in those red areas. To see where people are, one needs to look at the blue areas.
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Well said. These maps - while factually accurate - are intellectually fraudulent since they ignore the reality that land does NOT VOTE. People vote.
 
haymarket said:
Well said. These maps - while factually accurate - are intellectually fraudulent since they ignore the reality that land does NOT VOTE. People vote.
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Thank you.
 
TheGoverness said:
Surely you do realise that a ton of people live in New York City? It makes up at least 40% of the total population. That's a huge chunk. Just because there is more red, does not mean that there is more people living there. More people live in the blue areas, as per the map shows.
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Of course I do. That's why Cuomo panders to them.
 
TheGoverness said:
So what's your point then? I don't like Cuomo, but what he did is no different than any other establishment politician.
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Red:
Given the OP-er's response (post 10) to my initial comments (post 3), like you, I have the same question.
 
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