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Actress Cynthia Nixon loses New York Democratic primary

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45518685

Sex and the City actress Cynthia Nixon has lost in her bid to be the Democratic nominee for New York governor.

Ms Nixon fought her campaign as a left-wing challenger to the current governor, Andrew Cuomo.

With 93% of precincts reporting, Mr Cuomo had gained 65% of the vote to Ms Nixon's 35%.
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Cuomo had the big advantage of incumbency.
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45518685

Sex and the City actress Cynthia Nixon has lost in her bid to be the Democratic nominee for New York governor.

Ms Nixon fought her campaign as a left-wing challenger to the current governor, Andrew Cuomo.

With 93% of precincts reporting, Mr Cuomo had gained 65% of the vote to Ms Nixon's 35%.
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Cuomo had the big advantage of incumbency.

I think the American people have had their fill of installing TV personalities into office as chief executives.

I remember when Jesse "The Body" Ventura (former pro wrestler) was governor of MN. He was a lot of fun to watch as a "political expert" on the morning news shows. It was fun because he wasn't our governor!
 
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Not a surprising outcome, Cuomo had establishment support with all the funding that implies.
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45518685

Sex and the City actress Cynthia Nixon has lost in her bid to be the Democratic nominee for New York governor.

Ms Nixon fought her campaign as a left-wing challenger to the current governor, Andrew Cuomo.

With 93% of precincts reporting, Mr Cuomo had gained 65% of the vote to Ms Nixon's 35%.
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Cuomo had the big advantage of incumbency.

We knew that was coming, though I'm disappointed all the same. That would have been a huge win for progressives. Oh well, I hope that she runs again, and progressives should email her and encourage her to do so.

We've lost some, and we've won some. I've always known that any success to be had in the attempt towards replacing corporate Dems was going to be more of a slow trickle.
 
For someone who just jumped right in, Nixon did great.
 
I think the American people have had their fill of installing TV personalities into office as chief executives.

I remember when Jesse "The Body" Ventura (former pro wrestler) was governor of MN. He was a lot of fun to watch as a "political expert" on the morning news shows. It was fun because he wasn't our governor!

I've had my fill of electing celebrities with no substance under the hood. Cuomo, however, is a piece of ****, and Nixon was the better candidate in that race.
 
I've had my fill of electing celebrities with no substance under the hood. Cuomo, however, is a piece of ****, and Nixon was the better candidate in that race.

Good thing they're New York's problem and not ours.
 
‘America was never that great.”





They in New York deserve what they get!
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45518685

Sex and the City actress Cynthia Nixon has lost in her bid to be the Democratic nominee for New York governor.

Ms Nixon fought her campaign as a left-wing challenger to the current governor, Andrew Cuomo.

With 93% of precincts reporting, Mr Cuomo had gained 65% of the vote to Ms Nixon's 35%.
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Cuomo had the big advantage of incumbency.

It also helps when you portray your opponent as antisemitic.
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45518685

Sex and the City actress Cynthia Nixon has lost in her bid to be the Democratic nominee for New York governor.

Ms Nixon fought her campaign as a left-wing challenger to the current governor, Andrew Cuomo.

With 93% of precincts reporting, Mr Cuomo had gained 65% of the vote to Ms Nixon's 35%.
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Cuomo had the big advantage of incumbency.

Another Bernie Sanders analog goes down in flames. The Democrate turn to the hard Left is the gift that keeps on giving.
You think these people would have realized by now that the kind of class/identity politics and demagoguery that Sanders relies on to energize his base isn't appealing to the majority of middle class working voters
 
Another Bernie Sanders analog goes down in flames. The Democrate turn to the hard Left is the gift that keeps on giving.
You think these people would have realized by now that the kind of class/identity politics and demagoguery that Sanders relies on to energize his base isn't appealing to the majority of middle class working voters

Pretty much everything you said is backwards. Have you ever actually watched a speech given by Bernie Sanders? It's become a running joke that he almost literally talks about nothing else other than the enormous amount of total wealth pooing into the one percent. His entire shtick is income inequality, going after Wal-Mart and Jeff Bezos, and has been for a very long time. Sure, he leans left on social issues, but he wasn't the one weaponizing his minority status. Do you remember the 'Bernie-Bro' narrative, and the media's attempts at implying that he only does well among white voters? I think you got it backwards if you think it's the progressives that are the ones hyper-focused on identity-politics.

As for the loses, that's something else that the mainstream media likes to card-stack. We've all always known that not every candidate was going to win. But guess what? We've had quite a few wins. Rome wasn't built in a night, and this is going to be a very slow-going insurgency. Another thing that we got going for us is that, regardless of what anyone says of his age, it looks like there's a pretty damned good chance that Sanders is going to run again, and he's now current the most popular politician in the country by most polls. Then there's the fact that as these four years pass, cable-watching old farts are dying off, and kids likely to vote against an establishment candidate are coming of age.

I am absolutely not sorry that Donald Trump was elected president. Had Hillary won, a lot of folks on the left would have just went back to sleep, and we'd continue this vicious cycle for decades longer.
 
I've had my fill of electing celebrities with no substance under the hood. Cuomo, however, is a piece of ****, and Nixon was the better candidate in that race.

I despise Cuomo and would probably vote for my dog for governor over him. Hell I'd probably even have voted for Nixon despite thinking that most progressives - based on the few that I actually know - are off their collective rockers. But she hasn't run anything and a big part of governoring is management of a bureaucracy. After Trump there's no way anyone should get elected for governor who doesn't have significant organizational experience or a solid plan for dealing with their lack of managerial experience.
 
I despise Cuomo and would probably vote for my dog for governor over him. Hell I'd probably even have voted for Nixon despite thinking that most progressives - based on the few that I actually know - are off their collective rockers. But she hasn't run anything and a big part of governoring is management of a bureaucracy. After Trump there's no way anyone should get elected for governor who doesn't have significant organizational experience or a solid plan for dealing with their lack of managerial experience.

During the primary, I always thought the idea that electing a non-politician just to elect a non-politician was stupid as hell, so I would cringe when the country radio host from my work's speakers would gleefully fawn over Ben Carson an Donald Trump for that reason. My problem with Donald Trump wasn't in his lack of experience any more than I was impressed with Clinton's loads of experience throughout her bungled career full of bad decisions. No my problem with Donald Trump was always that he seems to be a loud buffoon without two brain-cells to rub together.

First and foremost, I want to hear what a candidate has to say about policy, and Donald Trump was all over the place; some of what he said would sound pretty good to a progressive if he actually made good on it, and some of the **** he said was frightening as hell, and sometimes he would literally contradict himself within the same sentence. I feel like with Trump, we got exactly what it says on the tin.
 
Pretty much everything you said is backwards. Have you ever actually watched a speech given by Bernie Sanders? It's become a running joke that he almost literally talks about nothing else other than the enormous amount of total wealth pooing into the one percent. His entire shtick is income inequality, going after Wal-Mart and Jeff Bezos, and has been for a very long time. Sure, he leans left on social issues, but he wasn't the one weaponizing his minority status. Do you remember the 'Bernie-Bro' narrative, and the media's attempts at implying that he only does well among white voters? I think you got it backwards if you think it's the progressives that are the ones hyper-focused on identity-politics.

Yup, I have. There's nothing Progressive about Bernie Sanders or his rhetoric. Its the same toxic, divisive class envy, redistribution rhetoric that Left wing demagogues have been using for decades to gain and retain power. Its the sales pitch for Socialism, and it appeals to a ideological and naive base of people who are influenced by the politics of envy.
Socialism isn't progress and its not revolutionary, its regressive and it's authoritarian underpinnings are archaic. Bernie Sanders has some pretty nutty ideas. Healthcare as a right being one. It shows little he understands and or cares about the truly revolutionary principles this Nation was founded upon

Bernie's pitch for Medicare for all never includes his home States failed attempt to implement single payer. In 2010, Vermont hired Jonathon Gruber and William Hsio to run the numbers on a State Single payer initiative. According to Gruber and Hsioa, Vermont would save 1 billion dollars over 10 years by enacting its single payer initiative, so in 2011 Green Mountain Care was signed into law. 7 years later and it still hasn't been implemented. Why ? Because the tax increases necessary to fund Green Mountain Care would have devastated the States economy. Vermont would have to double their annual revenue and bring in a extra 1 billion dollars in revenue annually to fund it. Even it's Progressive Governor at the time knew it wasn't feasible or sustainable. California was forced to shelve their Single payer Senate bill for the same reason, cost

I dont take Sanders or Occasio seriously, I see them as kind of a running joke. Promising equality and fairness and " Free Healthcare, College, a living wage, etc ", its just nonsense.

As for the loses, that's something else that the mainstream media likes to card-stack. We've all always known that not every candidate was going to win. But guess what? We've had quite a few wins. Rome wasn't built in a night, and this is going to be a very slow-going insurgency. Another thing that we got going for us is that, regardless of what anyone says of his age, it looks like there's a pretty damned good chance that Sanders is going to run again, and he's now current the most popular politician in the country by most polls. Then there's the fact that as these four years pass, cable-watching old farts are dying off, and kids likely to vote against an establishment candidate are coming of age.

I am absolutely not sorry that Donald Trump was elected president. Had Hillary won, a lot of folks on the left would have just went back to sleep, and we'd continue this vicious cycle for decades longer.

Socialism is NOT Progress and its not revolutionary. Its authoritarian and archaic and its not compatible with the truly revolutionary principles this Nation was founded upon. Remember when Venezuela was the idealized version of Socialism ? Sean Penn used to holiday there, and every Socialist pointed to it as a working example. Well, not so much anymore. Now its the poster child for failed a Socialist state, a cautionary tale for the rest of us
No now the idealized Socialist example is Scandinavian Socialism, even though those Countries are far from being Socialist

Bernie Sanders likes to use the Scandinavian example because he knows his base wont bother doing the leg work. As if we could simply cut/copy their example and paste it here in a Country of over 300 million people, and a Country with open borders to boot. Im convinced people like Sanders and even Obama know exactly just how destructive their policies and agenda's are. How could they not know ? How could they possibly believe that the US opening its borders and then providing free healthcare and college tuition and a living wage was sustainable ?
 
I think the American people have had their fill of installing TV personalities into office as chief executives.

I remember when Jesse "The Body" Ventura (former pro wrestler) was governor of MN. He was a lot of fun to watch as a "political expert" on the morning news shows. It was fun because he wasn't our governor!

That is exactly what I was coming here to say. We've had enough. Back to people who won't humiliate us on the world stage.
 
‘America was never that great.”





They in New York deserve what they get!

Yeah, I said the same thing about America when people here voted in Trump.

And for a lot of people, no America wasn't that great. Ask people of color. Ask people in Puerto Rico. Ask Native Americans.

Nah, unless you're white and moderately wealthy, America can be a tough place to live.

American exceptionalism is a pipe dream for a certain demographic.
 
Yeah, I said the same thing about America when people here voted in Trump.

And for a lot of people, no America wasn't that great. Ask people of color. Ask people in Puerto Rico. Ask Native Americans.

Nah, unless you're white and moderately wealthy, America can be a tough place to live.





American exceptionalism is a pipe dream for a certain demographic.[/QUOTE



Yes! Definitely. It’s all the white person’s fault!
 
Cuomo is a corrupt piece of slimeball **** and was fundamental in the founding and creation of the Independent Democratic Conference (and later its dissolution when it came to be a political liability) that was leveraged explicitly to stifle progressive legislation in tandem with Republicans at the behest of his (and other Dem) megadonors. Unfortunately, his incumbency, establishment backing and funding cumulatively were too massive to overcome vs a newcomer like Nixon, despite her trashing him in the debates and her blatantly superior policy.

If nothing else however, as consolation she may have helped push him left on a number of important issues, but we'll see what he actually does; I don't trust the man whatsoever.
 
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