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Harrisburg's GOP thugs want to kick voters out of redistricting process

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Harrisburg's GOP thugs want to kick voters out of redistricting process

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State Rep. Daryl Metcalfe (R., Butler)

April 18, 2018

The roots of Pennsylvania’s gerrymandering problem are planted deep in the state legislature. Whichever party is the majority crams its loyal voters into districts so its candidates have easy elections. Voters don’t get to decide a fair fight because there isn’t one. The majority party picks the candidates, picks the voters, and wins. For Republicans, the current majority party, it’s job security. For Democrats, it’s irrelevance. For voters, it’s tyranny. That’s why hundreds of Pennsylvanians went to Harrisburg this week to protest an obscene performance by Republican despots who grabbed total control over redistricting, effectively hamstringing voters’ influence on the electoral process. Lawmakers were supposed to hear legislation to make voting districts better reflect the state’s demographics. Instead, Republicans figured out a way to rig elections even more than they have in the past. Without warning, without public input, and even without testimony from fellow House members, the State Government Committee, chaired by State Rep. Daryl Metcalfe (R., Butler), shut the public out of the process to draw legislative district maps. On the table was a bill to create an independent commission with voters unbeholden to either political party who would draw up legislative districts. But Republicans changed the bill’s requirement for independent voters to instead install party hacks.

The new commission would be comprised of six members; four chosen by the majority party (Republican), with the minority party (Democratic) getting two. That’s worse than the existing system, where district boundaries are drawn by two Republicans, two Democrats, and a possible swing voter appointed by both parties or the Supreme Court. The last congressional district map was ridiculous. It reached through five counties to find enough Republicans to protect Rep. Pat Meehan (R., Pa.) and scattered Montgomery County voters among five districts.The state Supreme Court drew a better balanced map, which is effective for the May 15 primary after the U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear Republican challenges. That set off Republican lawmakers who threatened to impeach state Supreme Court justices who disagreed with them. This streak of authoritarianism is extremely dangerous to democracy. Bipartisan bills in the House and Senate must be passed by June to change the state constitution in time for the 2020 census, which will be used to determine future representation. An independent commission should draw district lines for the 2022 election. But last week’s coup by Metcalfe has threatened that outcome.

The GOP knows it can't win elections without rigging the system. Why anyone would vote for such freedom-hating thugs is beyond me.
 
I have one word to say for these GOP thugs = Nazis

shutting the public out; yeah right, Nazis

The GOP wasn't happy with the civil war in the 1860s
 
I have one word to say for these GOP thugs = Nazis

shutting the public out; yeah right, Nazis

The GOP wasn't happy with the civil war in the 1860s

You do realize the Republicans were on the winning side of the civil war, right?
 
You do realize the Republicans were on the winning side of the civil war, right?

What the were called back then doesn't matter. Those republicans of that time would be democrats today.

And the democrats of that time that fought against ending slavery are like that are like republicans today, pandering to racists and fighting any change
 
I have one word to say for these GOP thugs = Nazis

shutting the public out; yeah right, Nazis

The GOP wasn't happy with the civil war in the 1860s

Actually, the GOP was the liberal party in the 1860's (by the standards of the time). It was the Democratic party that was so strongly conservative. The better way to say it, then, is to point the finger not at the party, but at the political mindset - in this case, the conservatives. The Deep South was the Democratic Solid South all through Jim Crow - proudly-racist George Wallace was a Democrat - but while the Deep South switched from solid blue to solid red over the past five decades, it has always been the most conservative (and the most racist) region of the nation.

So it's not Dems and GOPers - it's liberals and conservatives.
 
The Republican party of the 1800's was the liberal party. The Democratic party was the conservative party.

Just something for you to remember....

The comment was,
"The GOP wasn't happy with the civil war in the 1860s"
I disagree!
 
Maybe you could all save yourselves a whole lot of typing and just scream "I HATE EVERYONE WHO DOESN'T THINK LIKE ME!!!" out the window.... Go on, it's OK, the neighbors won't mind and grandma will put up with almost anything as long as you stay in the basement.
 
You do realize the Republicans were on the winning side of the civil war, right?

Lincoln was the first GOP POTUS & the North wasn't happy with their win; the GOP really just wants non stop war, even here at home

Trump is a sore winner too .............. he's still whining about the election he won ...........
 
Maybe you could all save yourselves a whole lot of typing and just scream "I HATE EVERYONE WHO DOESN'T THINK LIKE ME!!!" out the window.... Go on, it's OK, the neighbors won't mind and grandma will put up with almost anything as long as you stay in the basement.

But only if they put on their pink hats ... and the females stick their heads into that vagina headgear.
 
Maybe you could all save yourselves a whole lot of typing and just scream "I HATE EVERYONE WHO DOESN'T THINK LIKE ME!!!" out the window.... Go on, it's OK, the neighbors won't mind and grandma will put up with almost anything as long as you stay in the basement.

So do you support gerrymandering?

I need to know if I hate you or not.
 
Actually, the GOP was the liberal party in the 1860's (by the standards of the time). It was the Democratic party that was so strongly conservative. The better way to say it, then, is to point the finger not at the party, but at the political mindset - in this case, the conservatives. The Deep South was the Democratic Solid South all through Jim Crow - proudly-racist George Wallace was a Democrat - but while the Deep South switched from solid blue to solid red over the past five decades, it has always been the most conservative (and the most racist) region of the nation.

So it's not Dems and GOPers - it's liberals and conservatives.

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It wasn't this sort of Republican Party that won, you seem to forget the Dixiecrats are now Republicans... :roll:
That is at least what democrats would like people to believe.
 
So do you support gerrymandering?

I need to know if I hate you or not.

I've never supported and in fact you can search post here where I've made that eminently clear. I've consistently backed using software to set voting districts. The issue I have is that of people thinking that it's only one side who does it. Gerrymandering has been done to the extreme by both parties and neither of them are innocent. I remember a couple decades back when the city of Bend, OR (our "neighbor"), made a proposal for voting districts that included a small circle in the middle of town where a bunch of liberals were living. Gerrymandering needs to end, but when stupid people make it a partisan issue, it just makes it that much more difficult to address.
 
I've never supported and in fact you can search post here where I've made that eminently clear. I've consistently backed using software to set voting districts. The issue I have is that of people thinking that it's only one side who does it. Gerrymandering has been done to the extreme by both parties and neither of them are innocent. I remember a couple decades back when the city of Bend, OR (our "neighbor"), made a proposal for voting districts that included a small circle in the middle of town where a bunch of liberals were living. Gerrymandering needs to end, but when stupid people make it a partisan issue, it just makes it that much more difficult to address.

Fair enough.
 
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