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Vaccinations before School??

emilymariee

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According to the Massachusetts Legislature, children must be vaccinated against diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus, measles, and poliomyelitis before entering school unless there is some endangering reason to the child why they cannot have the vaccination. Many believe this should continue to stay a law, but in the past 20 years, this has been a question if this should stay a law as more and more parents are against vaccinating their children.

What are your thoughts?
 
According to the Massachusetts Legislature, children must be vaccinated against diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus, measles, and poliomyelitis before entering school unless there is some endangering reason to the child why they cannot have the vaccination. Many believe this should continue to stay a law, but in the past 20 years, this has been a question if this should stay a law as more and more parents are against vaccinating their children.

What are your thoughts?

That if you consult your pediatrician and he recommends the vaccinations are safe for your child, and you dont do it, you are a very ignorant and dangerous parent.
 
That if you consult your pediatrician and he recommends the vaccinations are safe for your child, and you dont do it, you are a very ignorant and dangerous parent.

That could be straight out of A Brave New World but is comfortingly less fascistoid than 1989. ;)
 
schools and hospitals are incubators, so i support requiring kids to be vaccinated before they are allowed to attend.
 
According to the Massachusetts Legislature, children must be vaccinated against diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus, measles, and poliomyelitis before entering school unless there is some endangering reason to the child why they cannot have the vaccination. Many believe this should continue to stay a law, but in the past 20 years, this has been a question if this should stay a law as more and more parents are against vaccinating their children.

What are your thoughts?

Unless your kid's doctor recommends against it, if you choose not to vaccinate your child, you're not only endangering her, but all other children in his/her school.

Keep up with your kids' vaccinations. To do otherwise is stupid and irresponsible.
 
According to the Massachusetts Legislature, children must be vaccinated against diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus, measles, and poliomyelitis before entering school unless there is some endangering reason to the child why they cannot have the vaccination. Many believe this should continue to stay a law, but in the past 20 years, this has been a question if this should stay a law as more and more parents are against vaccinating their children.

What are your thoughts?

While I believe that society should be allowed to protect itself, I also think that it should be closely restricted by the Constitution. Infringing on the protections of the citizens should not be allowed till the Constitution has been amended to allow it. It is vastly negligent or ignorant of a citizen to want a majority to do otherwise.
 
That could be straight out of A Brave New World but is comfortingly less fascistoid than 1989. ;)
Another pseudo-intellectually empty response, please feel free to provide us with facts that refute my statement that vaccination programs are better for individuals and society.
 
schools and hospitals are incubators, so i support requiring kids to be vaccinated before they are allowed to attend.

That might be alright for private schools. For public schools such a restriction would require catastrophic circumstances or a change to the Constitution I should think.
 
That might be alright for private schools. For public schools such a restriction would require catastrophic circumstances or a change to the Constitution I should think.
Vaccination programs (required vaccination) can require catastrophic consequences? Require how? And please specify these catastrophic circumstances. And please also specify what change(s) is needed for the Constitution.

Please be specific.
 
Another pseudo-intellectually empty response, please feel free to provide us with facts that refute my statement that vaccination programs are better for individuals and society.

I realize your statist approach to individual rights. But you do surprise me that you might think of having read standard parables of our culture might be confused with intellectualism.
 
That might be alright for private schools. For public schools such a restriction would require catastrophic circumstances or a change to the Constitution I should think.

nah. you don't have a constitutional right to make other kids sick because your parents are idiots who don't fully understand how herd immunity works. however, if you are allergic to eggs, you shouldn't be required to be vaccinated until all vaccines are made in cell culture.
 
I realize your statist approach to individual rights. But you do surprise me that you might think of having read standard parables of our culture might be confused with intellectualism.

WHich parts of my post werent clear? (And I wrote *pseudo*-intellectual with regards to your response, not the issue.)

Vaccination programs (required vaccination) can require catastrophic consequences? Require how? And please specify these catastrophic circumstances. And please also specify what change(s) is needed for the Constitution.

Please be specific.

I am very familiar with your posting style, hence I tried to be very clear in requesting that you back up your post with *specifics.* Can you?
 
Vaccination programs (required vaccination) can require catastrophic consequences? Require how? And please specify these catastrophic circumstances. And please also specify what change(s) is needed for the Constitution.

Please be specific.

That is not actually, what I wrote. But again, I know you like to react to what you would like to have been written instead of what was. That helps, when the answer would otherwise be not only complicated but show up your opinion as somewhat unsavory.
 
That is not actually, what I wrote. But again, I know you like to react to what you would like to have been written instead of what was. That helps, when the answer would otherwise be not only complicated but show up your opinion as somewhat unsavory.

I responded directly to what you wrote:
That might be alright for private schools. For public schools such a restriction would require catastrophic circumstances or a change to the Constitution I should think.
Vaccination programs (required vaccination) can require catastrophic consequences? Require how? And please specify these catastrophic circumstances. And please also specify what change(s) is needed for the Constitution.

Please be specific.


Again, please feel free to specifically address how I misunderstood your post (and if I misunderstood, it might be solid evidence that your pseudo-intellectual writing style is ineffective in a discussion format...unless that is your intent?)
 
That is not actually, what I wrote. But again, I know you like to react to what you would like to have been written instead of what was. That helps, when the answer would otherwise be not only complicated but show up your opinion as somewhat unsavory.

LOL Are you implying I wouldnt understand your explanation?

And exactly what in my posts makes you think my 'opinion' on the issue may be 'unsavory?' Epidemiology is a favorite subject of mine, I am comfortable with my views and am happy to share them....and then we can all see if they are "unsavory." :)
 
That might be alright for private schools. For public schools such a restriction would require catastrophic circumstances or a change to the Constitution I should think.

Nowhere in the constitution does it say you have a right to put children in danger because you are a moron.
 
According to the Massachusetts Legislature, children must be vaccinated against diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus, measles, and poliomyelitis before entering school unless there is some endangering reason to the child why they cannot have the vaccination. Many believe this should continue to stay a law, but in the past 20 years, this has been a question if this should stay a law as more and more parents are against vaccinating their children.

What are your thoughts?

That forced vaccinations should be illegal.

That taxes should be reduced for parents that do not vaccinate and are not allowed to send their kids to school.

That other people mind their own business...
 
nah. you don't have a constitutional right to make other kids sick because your parents are idiots who don't fully understand how herd immunity works. however, if you are allergic to eggs, you shouldn't be required to be vaccinated until all vaccines are made in cell culture.

True. The Constitutional right kicks in earlier.
 
Nowhere in the constitution does it say you have a right to put children in danger because you are a moron.

True. But that is not the protection afforded by the Constitution. But like in the other two responses, if you don't even know, which rights are protected here, you either have never thought about it or you have purposely ignored the issue. No problem with that, but either case makes it uninteresting to discuss it with you.
 
True. But that is not the protection afforded by the Constitution. But like in the other two responses, if you don't even know, which rights are protected here, you either have never thought about it or you have purposely ignored the issue. No problem with that, but either case makes it uninteresting to discuss it with you.

You were politely asked to specify those Constitutional protections already. Now you refer to them again, without specifing which and how.

It seems that rather than explain your responses, you prefer to pretend like it's too complex to do so and so drop the discussion. That seems like an odd attitude on a discussion forum.
 
True. The Constitutional right kicks in earlier.

it kicks in at the point where you don't have the right to make other kids sick because you fall for unscientific internet BS.
 
You were politely asked to specify those Constitutional protections already. Now you refer to them again, without specifing which and how.

It seems that rather than explain your responses, you prefer to pretend like it's too complex to do so and so drop the discussion. That seems like an odd attitude on a discussion forum.

I believe that I pointed out that you cannot be interested or are willfully ignoring the issues involved. In either case, it is uninteresting to discuss it with you.
 
I believe that I pointed out that you cannot be interested or are willfully ignoring the issues involved. In either case, it is uninteresting to discuss it with you.

And why would you assume the bold since I have clearly articulated direct, relevant questions to you based word for word on your responses?

If you are disinterested in discussing the subject itself, then why did you post at all?
 
That might be alright for private schools. For public schools such a restriction would require catastrophic circumstances or a change to the Constitution I should think.

There is no Constitutional issue since schools are run by the states. While the Bill of Rights is incorporated against the states there's nothing there that would prohibit a state from mandating vaccinations for public school admission. In fact I'd think the 10th amendment gives the states the power to do so.

To the OP I'm all for people deciding to not vaccinating their children provided they are home schooled and have no contact with other children or the old and inform unless those people agree to have contact with an vaccinated child.
 
That forced vaccinations should be illegal.

That taxes should be reduced for parents that do not vaccinate and are not allowed to send their kids to school.

That other people mind their own business...

Sorry but public school children's health is everyone's business. Everyone being vaccinated is why it works.
 
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