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    Calling all New Yorkers!

    With the voting for a NY Constitutional Convention closing in, I have to ask for some insight. I've been looking into the pros and cons of this, but I keep finding concentration on one issue that the writer might be for or against and what I think is a little 'dooms day' predictions. Right now I'm leaning towards a no vote, simply because I don't see any improvement that could be made that would be worth the risk of opening the whole thing up for personal political agendas.

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    Re: Calling all New Yorkers!

    A Pro? States need to make their own way. Because they need some protection from the lunatics running DC right now. Legalization of marijuana being just 1 big current issue that comes to mind.

    A Con? New York City! In a battle between upstate and downstate, the NYC interests will prevail. BUT the flip side is why have upstate people voting on how NYC should be run? Upstate and downstate NY are as different as day and night. And also there will be the usual 'split the state up' rhetoric. It's a tricky situation.
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    Re: Calling all New Yorkers!

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    A Pro? States need to make their own way. Because they need some protection from the lunatics running DC right now. Legalization of marijuana being just 1 big current issue that comes to mind.

    A Con? New York City! In a battle between upstate and downstate, the NYC interests will prevail. BUT the flip side is why have upstate people voting on how NYC should be run? Upstate and downstate NY are as different as day and night. And also there will be the usual 'split the state up' rhetoric. It's a tricky situation.
    There's just that pesky US constitution in your way

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    Re: Calling all New Yorkers!

    Quote Originally Posted by holbritter View Post
    With the voting for a NY Constitutional Convention closing in, I have to ask for some insight. I've been looking into the pros and cons of this, but I keep finding concentration on one issue that the writer might be for or against and what I think is a little 'dooms day' predictions. Right now I'm leaning towards a no vote, simply because I don't see any improvement that could be made that would be worth the risk of opening the whole thing up for personal political agendas.

    Pros? Cons?
    I sympathesize with the NO vote. It's like the Patriot Act. Nobody knew what was in that legislation, but it was pre-written, I think 1100 pages and ready to go just needing an excuse. Now we are screwed daily by that insane legislation. Is something like that in the wings for NY and its' Constitutional Convention?
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    Re: Calling all New Yorkers!

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    There's just that pesky US constitution in your way
    Hard to tell with the GOP in charge in DC and with the Cons on the USSC. Cons/Republicans love preach about states rights and all that. But when it comes to social conservative issues they would like to set-up cameras in your bedroom. And even though pot should be a state issue it's a big social con no, no.
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    Re: Calling all New Yorkers!

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    Hard to tell with the GOP in charge in DC and with the Cons on the USSC. Cons/Republicans love preach about states rights and all that. But when it comes to social conservative issues they would like to set-up cameras in your bedroom. And even though pot should be a state issue it's a big social con no, no.
    States rights where it is warranted but I don't think stripping to federal govt of certain powers so people can do drugs is covered by that

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    Re: Calling all New Yorkers!

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    States rights where it is warranted but I don't think stripping to federal govt of certain powers so people can do drugs is covered by that
    I'm not going to discuss legalizing pot in this thread, that's completely off-topic. Persoanlly I do't care one way or the other, I was just using it as an example.

    My point is with the dysfunction in Congress and this current Admin, and social cons in charge in DC, NYS might want to ensure and protect some things like legalizing pot (if that's want they want ), abortion rights, clean air and water, etc before the Social Cons in DC weaken or eliminate them.
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    Re: Calling all New Yorkers!

    For those interested and don't know about this here's an article that may help: A Constitutional Convention for New York? This May Be the Year
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    Re: Calling all New Yorkers!

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    I'm not going to discuss legalizing pot in this thread, that's completely off-topic. Persoanlly I do't care one way or the other, I was just using it as an example.

    My point is with the dysfunction in Congress and this current Admin, and social cons in charge in DC, NYS might want to ensure and protect some things like legalizing pot (if that's want they want ), abortion rights, clean air and water, etc before the Social Cons in DC weaken or eliminate them.
    Again as long as there is the federal govt with the constitution it's doesn't matter what NY puts in their state constitution they can't supersede the federal govt

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    Re: Calling all New Yorkers!

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    Again as long as there is the federal govt with the constitution it's doesn't matter what NY puts in their state constitution they can't supersede the federal govt
    Yeah it can on certain issues, like clean air and water. And I'm not even mentioning what could happen if the USSC gets involved.
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