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    Re: Calling all New Yorkers!

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I sympathesize with the NO vote. It's like the Patriot Act. Nobody knew what was in that legislation, but it was pre-written, I think 1100 pages and ready to go just needing an excuse. Now we are screwed daily by that insane legislation. Is something like that in the wings for NY and its' Constitutional Convention?
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    Not sure. I wish I could see what is being thought about bringing up. The link Kal'stang posted led me to this, which has more information:

    Home | The New York State Constitutional Convention Clearinghouse

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    Re: Calling all New Yorkers!

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    Yeah it can on certain issues, like clean air and water. And I'm not even mentioning what could happen if the USSC gets involved.
    Yes on certain issues, marijuana legalization/decriminalization is not one of them however.

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    Re: Calling all New Yorkers!

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    A Pro? States need to make their own way. Because they need some protection from the lunatics running DC right now. Legalization of marijuana being just 1 big current issue that comes to mind.

    A Con? New York City! In a battle between upstate and downstate, the NYC interests will prevail. BUT the flip side is why have upstate people voting on how NYC should be run? Upstate and downstate NY are as different as day and night. And also there will be the usual 'split the state up' rhetoric. It's a tricky situation.
    New York's already a progressive state I don't see where a constitutional convention would offer significant protections against Washington.

    As to pot it's de facto legal here already. Possession is parking ticket level offense if the police actually choose to enforce the law which they largely don't - outside of stop-and-frisk in NYC that is.

    A constitutional convention would allow for the possibility of beefing up the state legislature and diminishing the power of the governor - something I'd be for. As well it might give NYC a measure of independence from Albany.
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    Re: Calling all New Yorkers!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    New York's already a progressive state I don't see where a constitutional convention would offer significant protections against Washington.

    As to pot it's de facto legal here already. Possession is parking ticket level offense if the police actually choose to enforce the law which they largely don't - outside of stop-and-frisk in NYC that is.

    A constitutional convention would allow for the possibility of beefing up the state legislature and diminishing the power of the governor - something I'd be for. As well it might give NYC a measure of independence from Albany.
    They do have independence from Albany for the most part. They are like a state within a state with their own taxes, laws, etc.
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    Re: Calling all New Yorkers!

    Quote Originally Posted by holbritter View Post
    They do have independence from Albany for the most part. They are like a state within a state with their own taxes, laws, etc.
    Yes the city has it's own taxes but they must be approved by Albany. The city cannot just raise or institute new taxes. That's something that's pretty much bothered every mayor during my lifetime - which goes back to the Wagner administration though Lindsay is the first mayor I really remember.

    As well Albany must approve rent regulations, can increase retiree benefits for retired city employees (and not fund them) and can unilaterally kill taxes - like the commuter tax. Albany has lots of power of the city and the city really doesn't like it.
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