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A Great Governor

Glen Contrarian said:
Do you or do you not agree with this statement?

"the poorer the people, the higher the crime rate...and if a demographic group is generally poorer, then that group WILL commit more crimes."
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I do not. Nor do I think it's relevant to this topic.
 
MaggieD said:
I love it. I'm so damned sick of people throwing around the race card I can hardly stand it. It's really time people stopped worrying of responding in a politically correct fashion and start dishing it back with both barrels. Calling out someone as a racist is the lowest of the low if it is not true. I don't believe it is since the governor assured the comments ten times the notoriety than they would have otherwise garnered.
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Amen to that. While I do wish the governor had measured his words in a more statesmanlike manner--I don't like that kind of language from anybody--the message he was communicating is spot on. I am so sick of all the political correctness crap and people being destroyed or hostile mobs trying to destroy those who communicate a message that doesn't pass the political correctness test. If we don't start fighting back against that we lose all our liberties and the radical left or the radical right--maybe both--will control every aspect of our lives.
 
AlbqOwl said:
Amen to that. While I do wish the governor had measured his words in a more statesmanlike manner--I don't like that kind of language from anybody--the message he was communicating is spot on. I am so sick of all the political correctness crap and people being destroyed or hostile mobs trying to destroy those who communicate a message that doesn't pass the political correctness test. If we don't start fighting back against that we lose all our liberties and the radical left or the radical right--maybe both--will control every aspect of our lives.
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Is it statesmanlike to say "I am after you!" To a democratic state representative on the phone And wishing that it was 1825 so he legally duel said representative?

I don't think it is.
 
Anagram said:
It makes him look like someone who will utterly lose it just from some simple words said to him. Not a good quality.
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LePage is a Trump Humper. That tells the whole story.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Is it statesmanlike to say "I am after you!" To a democratic state representative on the phone And wishing that it was 1825 so he legally duel said representative?

I don't think it is.
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You're barking up the wrong tree with me on that one I'm afraid. I conduct a mostly one woman war against political correctness in ALL its ugly forms. I put statements like that in the same category as the person who says, "You would say something like that to somebody who carries a gun?" or "He should be hung." It is harmless hyperbole not to be taken seriously by anybody who deals in human expressions and reality instead of painting everything with the political correctness brush.
 
AlbqOwl said:
You're barking up the wrong tree with me on that one I'm afraid. I conduct a mostly one woman war against political correctness in ALL its ugly forms. I put statements like that in the same category as the person who says, "You would say something like that to somebody who carries a gun?" or "He should be hung." It is harmless hyperbole not to be taken seriously by anybody who deals in human expressions and reality instead of painting everything with the political correctness brush.
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Let me ask you a question: did john Wilkes Booth engage in harmless hyperbole when, in reaction to Lincolns second inaugural address, he said this:?

. “Now, by God, I’ll put him through. That is the last speech he will ever make.”
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Jack Hays said:
The Governor of Maine has my vote (if only I could vote for him)!

Maine governor to lawmaker: ‘I am after you’

[FONT="]Maine Gov. Paul LePage left a hostile voicemail for a state lawmaker Thursday morning, calling him a “socialist c***sucker.”[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#26282A][FONT="]The Portland Press Herald reports that the governor left the expletive-filled message after a TV reporter said that Rep. Drew Gattine, D-Westbrook, was among several people who accused him of racism.[/FONT]
[FONT="]“Mr. Gattine, this is Gov. Paul Richard LePage. I would like to talk to you about your comments about my being a racist, you c***sucker,” he said. “I want to talk to you. I want you to prove that I’m a racist. I’ve spent my life helping black people and you little son of a bitch, socialist c***sucker. You … I need you to, just friggin’. I want you to record this and make it public because I am after you. Thank you.”[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#26282A][FONT="]The accusations of racism stemmed from comments LePage made during a town hallin North Berwick on Wednesday. LePage had said he has a three-ring binder of photos from drug busts and that most “are black and Hispanic people from Waterbury, Connecticut; the Bronx; and Brooklyn.” According to LePage, Gattine called him a racist in response. Gattine denied this to local outlets.[/FONT]
[FONT="]Unapologetic about his statements, not only did LePage encourage Gattine to record the voicemail, he also invited a journalist from the Press Herald and a TV crew from local ABC affiliate WMTW to the Blaine House, the official residence of the governor, to conduct a half-hour interview on his motivations. He lamented that he could not settle their dispute with a duel. . . . .[/FONT]
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Well, well, well - this clown is a pure piece of ****.

You are who you adore.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Let me ask you a question: did john Wilkes Booth engage in harmless hyperbole when, in reaction to Lincolns second inaugural address, he said this:?
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Everything should be measured in the context in which it is expressed. There are real threats. And there is hyperbole. We are well advised to know the difference. The angry nun who says "I'll murder him" is saying something very different than what Booth was saying.
 
AlbqOwl said:
Everything should be measured in the context in which it is expressed. There are real threats. And there is hyperbole. We are well advised to know the difference. The angry nun who says "I'll murder him" is saying something very different than what Booth was saying.
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If that angry nun was waving a knife while she was running around saying "I'll murder him," I think I would call that "threatening"
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
If that angry nun was waving a knife while she was running around saying "I'll murder him," I think I would call that "threatening"
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Perhaps. But that is highly unlikely to be the case isn't it.
 
Jack Hays said:
I do not. Nor do I think it's relevant to this topic.
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Incredible. Absolutely incredible. After the experience you've claimed to have had, you really think that there's no positive correlation between poverty and crime.

Instead, you prefer the route of racism.

And if I were a betting man, I'd be willing to bet money that you're lying through your teeth, that you DO know down deep in your gut that there most certainly is a positive correlation between poverty and crime...but you simply refuse to publicly acknowledge it...though whether you refuse to acknowledge it because of racism or because you simply want to be obtuse - or for some other reason I can't see right now - I can't tell.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
Incredible. Absolutely incredible. After the experience you've claimed to have had, you really think that there's no positive correlation between poverty and crime.

Instead, you prefer the route of racism.

And if I were a betting man, I'd be willing to bet money that you're lying through your teeth, that you DO know down deep in your gut that there most certainly is a positive correlation between poverty and crime...but you simply refuse to publicly acknowledge it...though whether you refuse to acknowledge it because of racism or because you simply want to be obtuse - or for some other reason I can't see right now - I can't tell.
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On the contrary. It's my experience that is the foundation of my answer. The poorest people were never the most dishonest or criminal.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
Riiiiiiiight.

Sorry, Jack, but I don't think you're being truthful for even a moment...perhaps not even with yourself.
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Or perhaps you're so wedded to your PC paradigm that you can't recognize a reality that doesn't conform to it.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
Riiiiiiiight.

Sorry, Jack, but I don't think you're being truthful for even a moment...perhaps not even with yourself.
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[h=3]The Relationship Between Crime Rates and Poverty | New Republic[/h]https://newrepublic.com/.../relationship-poverty-crime-rates-econo...


The New Republic


Dec 21, 2010 - According to FBI statistics, crime rates went down across the board in 2009. ... those illicit markets aren't associated with the same levels of violence.) ... noted that the recession “has undercut one of the most destructive social ...
 
Jack Hays said:
Or perhaps you're so wedded to your PC paradigm that you can't recognize a reality that doesn't conform to it.
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If I'd lived all my life in the suburbs, you might have a point. But just as you say you have, I've been around this world and seen a lot of things that most Americans haven't, and have a range of experience that very few people anywhere can claim. And I know this: when one walks through upper, middle, and lower-class neighborhoods - and especially the neighborhoods that have so many homeless - we ALL know which neighborhoods are most dangerous to walk in.

If you've even a fraction of the experience you claim, then you know this too...but you simply refuse to admit it. This isn't a matter of 'PC' - it's a matter of simple reality. But apparently, you feel that acknowledging reality is less important than scoring a political point...which, I guess, is why you're so dead-set on denying AGW, too.
 
Jack Hays said:
African Americans are arrested at higher rates because they commit crimes at higher rates.

The Color of Crime, 2016 Revised Edition | American Renaissance

www.amren.com/.../the-color-of-crime-2016-revised-edition/

American Renaissance


Victim and witness surveys show that police arrest violent criminals in close proportion to the rates at which criminals of different races commit violent crimes.
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You cited "American Renaissance???"

How low can you get?
 
Glen Contrarian said:
If I'd lived all my life in the suburbs, you might have a point. But just as you say you have, I've been around this world and seen a lot of things that most Americans haven't, and have a range of experience that very few people anywhere can claim. And I know this: when one walks through upper, middle, and lower-class neighborhoods - and especially the neighborhoods that have so many homeless - we ALL know which neighborhoods are most dangerous to walk in.

If you've even a fraction of the experience you claim, then you know this too...but you simply refuse to admit it. This isn't a matter of 'PC' - it's a matter of simple reality. But apparently, you feel that acknowledging reality is less important than scoring a political point...which, I guess, is why you're so dead-set on denying AGW, too.
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Please see #66. In the slums of Lagos (where I traveled as infrequently as possible) the poor inhabitants were not the people to fear. The people to fear were the extortion gangs in the pay of local notables.
 
Jack Hays said:
[h=3]The Relationship Between Crime Rates and Poverty | New Republic[/h]https://newrepublic.com/.../relationship-poverty-crime-rates-econo...


The New Republic


Dec 21, 2010 - According to FBI statistics, crime rates went down across the board in 2009. ... those illicit markets aren't associated with the same levels of violence.) ... noted that the recession “has undercut one of the most destructive social ...
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Jack, you didn't read it with a critical eye. Why? Pick a city. ANY city. Then Google it, dig around, and find out which neighborhoods have the highest rates of crime within that city. Yeah, you do know what you'll find, don't you?

Where the study you referenced went wrong was that it stated that the crime rates were going down during the recession, and used that to claim that there's no positive correlation between poverty and crime. The great, glaring error is that your study apparently forgot that the decrease in crime didn't begin during the recession, but has been going on for the past couple decades. The decrease in crime continued nationwide - with exceptions within the margin of error, of course - even during the recession, which shows that there's other factors at play...

...but regardless of what factors may be at play, almost without exception, the most dangerous part of any city is going to be the poorest part of that city. You know this. You just don't want to admit it.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
Jack, you didn't read it with a critical eye. Why? Pick a city. ANY city. Then Google it, dig around, and find out which neighborhoods have the highest rates of crime within that city. Yeah, you do know what you'll find, don't you?

Where the study you referenced went wrong was that it stated that the crime rates were going down during the recession, and used that to claim that there's no positive correlation between poverty and crime. The great, glaring error is that your study apparently forgot that the decrease in crime didn't begin during the recession, but has been going on for the past couple decades. The decrease in crime continued nationwide - with exceptions within the margin of error, of course - even during the recession, which shows that there's other factors at play...

...but regardless of what factors may be at play, almost without exception, the most dangerous part of any city is going to be the poorest part of that city. You know this. You just don't want to admit it.
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Increased poverty correlated with decreased crime.
As I noted in a recent post, the danger in a poor neighborhood need not come from its poor inhabitants.
 
Anagram said:
How is this a good quality in a governor? Even if Gattine's attack was completely and unequivocally baseless, this is not a good response to it.
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Important point Gattine said he has never called anyone including the bovine unhinged gov a racist.
 
MaggieD said:
I love it. I'm so damned sick of people throwing around the race card I can hardly stand it. It's really time people stopped worrying of responding in a politically correct fashion and start dishing it back with both barrels. Calling out someone as a racist is the lowest of the low if it is not true. I don't believe it is since the governor assured the comments ten times the notoriety than they would have otherwise garnered.
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You should know the facts before you comment. That said the porcine retarded tool bag gov is definitely a racist.
 
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