Michigan man sues parents for $86,000 for tossing his porn collection

AGENT J said:

LMAO nope i cant say that at all because in general its a good lawsuit :shrug:,
his only concern would be proving the value which i already pointed out

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Not only that, but he has to be concerned with the Jury's assessment of damages. He might well win the action to the point where his parents are found liable, and then the jury might assess the damages at as low as $1.00 (based on the finding that the material was NOT "unique" and that it, or an acceptable substitute for it, could be obtained free of charge.

TU Curmudgeon said:

Not only that, but he has to be concerned with the Jury's assessment of damages. He might well win the action to the point where his parents are found liable, and then the jury might assess the damages at as low as $1.00 (based on the finding that the material was NOT "unique" and that it, or an acceptable substitute for it, could be obtained free of charge.

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Very true it could be a very small amount especially again if he has no ability to proving value

AGENT J said:

Very true it could be a very small amount especially again if he has no ability to proving value

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I really don't see this gentleman as what I would call a "sympathetic Plaintiff" and juries don't like to give out tons of money to Plaintiffs that they do not "identify with" (or, at least, cannot openly admit to "identifying with").

TU Curmudgeon said:

I really don't see this gentleman as what I would call a "sympathetic Plaintiff" and juries don't like to give out tons of money to Plaintiffs that they do not "identify with" (or, at least, cannot openly admit to "identifying with").

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agree with that too, while some people dont care about that stuff many do. I personally wouldnt care but some people quickly focus on themselves and think why should somebody else get money when they never did.

If im on the jury and AGAIN only going by this article, dad confessed to destroying his property, if he could provide the value i would be fine with giving him the retail value. If he could prove some other value "collectables, rare etc" then i could go hire but unless he had a van full of DVDs i dont see 89K lol

justabubba said:

cost of alienation of affection between he and his member

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Spoken like a true "long standing member" of this forum.

Stillshopping said:

The guy sounds more like a crybaby liberal who freeloads, then sues when things don't go his way. If he moved his own property, it wouldn't have gotten lost. Geez, he imposed on his parents by living in their basement watching porn. Then he gets mad because they didn't pack all of his belongings?

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Not so fast.
I saw an alleged photo of this guy and he was wearing a MAGA hat....and nothing else.
It was on youtube so it's gotta be true!!!

radioman said:

Not so fast.
I saw an alleged photo of this guy and he was wearing a MAGA hat....and nothing else.
It was on youtube so it's gotta be true!!!

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Yeah. But did he have a big hat rack?

Well, they raised him. Calling that guy a man with that level of immaturity is a bit far fetched, no?

bearpoker said:

The stuff was in their house. They had a right to dispose of it.

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False.

AlphaOmega said:

False.

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You may, or may not, be correct.

However, something occurs to me "Why would ANYONE want to become nationally known as the owner of a $29,000+ pornography collection?". Do you have any answer to that question - because I sure don't.

AlphaOmega said:

False.

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You may, or may not, be correct.

However, something occurs to me "Why would ANYONE want to become nationally known as the owner of a $29,000+ pornography collection?". Do you have any answer to that question - because I sure don't.

TU Curmudgeon said:

You may, or may not, be correct.

However, something occurs to me "Why would ANYONE want to become nationally known as the owner of a $29,000+ pornography collection?". Do you have any answer to that question - because I sure don't.

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Its a free country...he is allowed to own porn. Who are you or anyone else to tell another adult what they should or should not own?
Also if you park your car in my driveway...can I throw it out?

TU Curmudgeon said:

From ABC News

Michigan man sues parents for $86,000 for tossing his porn collection
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A Michigan man is seeking more than $86,000 from his parents in civil court for allegedly throwing out his large pornography collection.

The names of the son and his parents were withheld by WXMI, which obtained the federal civil court documents on Friday.

The family rift began in October 2016 when the man moved back into his parents' Grand Haven, Michigan, home after a divorce. Among his possessions was a smut collection, he said in court documents, worth $29,000, ABC affiliate ABC13 reported.

Less than a year later, the man moved to Indiana. When his parents delivered his property to his new home, the son alleges his massive collection was missing.

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An obvious violation of the man's "right to keep and view porn" and the courts should deal with those (obviously left-wing, liberal, socialist, pinko, commie) parents as harshly as the law allows.

Right?
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Vintage comics or vintage MAD mags I can understand, but all this over porn? C'mon.
You can get porn for free on the internet for cryin' out loud. Give your parents a break.

Lutherf said:

Some days autocorrect just hates me.

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I ducking hate autocorrect.

Must be a member of the group who attacks failing gay black actors in Chicago.

Twenty-nine thousand dollars invested in stroke books and porn films?
The news story said he moved back in with the folks after a divorce, yes?

A little bird is whispering in my ear, saying that the divorce probably had something to do with a wife who was sick and tired of him spending every last dime he made on porn, because spending almost thirty grand on porn indicates a pretty serious addiction.

Hey, I enjoy naked women, so disclaimer, okay?
I think over my entire lifetime (62yrs) I might have spent maybe a hundred bucks? You know, picked up a copy of my favorite girlie mag here or there, maybe bought a VHS once upon a time.

I actually DID go to a porno film theater to see an X-rated movie once, but we're talking a VERY long time ago and it was a girlfriend's idea. She was fascinated with the notion of going to an adult movie theater, so we went. Hey, we had a fantastic time later so it was worth it. I guess "being dirty" put her in the mood...and HOW!

THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS??? Good God, that's ridiculous. I can just imagine the wife thinking,
"You want your dinner, get your porn collection to make your damn dinner for you, you pig."

I am not even going to try and weigh in as to whether or not he has a case, but I think it's pretty pathetic, and what's more...if you're a guy with thirty grand sunk into a porn collection, guess what?
Go rent a damn storage space for your porn collection, then your churchified parental units won't have to uncover it when they are forced to pack up your crap and deliver it to you.

What a dumbass.

AlphaOmega said:

Its a free country...he is allowed to own porn. Who are you or anyone else to tell another adult what they should or should not own?

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Where did you see me saying that I didn't believe that he had the right to "own porn"?

However, your staunch defence of all Americans to "keep and bear kiddie and/or snuff porn" is applauded by all intelligent and civilized people.

AlphaOmega said:

Also if you park your car in my driveway...can I throw it out?

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You could sure have it towed away and refuse to return it to me until after I had paid you for the towing charges, and the towing company could sure refuse to return it to me until after I had paid the impound/storage fees, and the impound/storage company could sure sell it out from under me if I didn't pay the impound/storage fees.

Not only that, but you could also get away with simply having my car towed off to the recyclers and "crunched" on the basis that I had "abandoned" my car in your driveway - UNLESS there was some "parking/storage agreement" in place.

Roadvirus said:

Vintage comics or vintage MAD mags I can understand, but all this over porn? C'mon.
You can get porn for free on the internet for cryin' out loud. Give your parents a break.

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Pretty much goes to "quantum of damage" doesn't it?

Assume that the court does find that the parents are liable. The next step is for the court to determine the actual value of the "missing items". If the Defendant can demonstrate that the "missing items" can be obtained free of charge, then the ACTUAL value of the "missing items" would tend to be incredibly low - wouldn't it? If the "missing items" were obtained "in the course of pursuing a hobby that the Plaintiff was going to pursue in any event" then the "cost of labour" to replace the "missing items" would also tend to be incredibly low - wouldn't it?

Not only that, but I doubt that the Plaintiff in this case can actually prove what the "missing items" were.

Checkerboard Strangler said:

What a dumbass.

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After an intensive review of over 6,000 law books and almost 2,300 years of case law, I have to admit that you have used the correct technical terms to describe this Plaintiff.

PS - Please excuse the slight exaggeration for the sake of emphasis.