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Much as I hate to, guess I'll have to go with Oprah.
That too. Nobody’s buying cosmetics from Kylie Kowalski.
I see. We're doing the "only count definition 1a, not 1b, 2a and 3 is right out". Yeah, you go with that. Real robust and intellectually satisfying. Lowest common denominator is really the only way to explore something.
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Oh bull****.
Self-made means having succeeded in life unaided.
Used in a sentence: Forbes says that Kylie Jenner is a self-made woman.
Self-made | Define Self-made at Dictionary.com
She used her name, and her money, to make more money. Kinda like Trump...
It's a lot easier to get home when you're born on 3rd base. Having the money and time to have numerous plastic surgery procedures helps when you're selling your face and body (image).
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44802123
My overall disgust for all things Kardashian/Jenner should be no secret to anyone here.
Check off another thing that just galls my stones, calling anything Kylie does "self made".
What an absolute, outright in-your-face insult to anyone in the "real world" who is actually self-made.
Would you agree?
Do you consider Kylie's business success to be "self-made"?
So what if she did have advantages other others don't? She made the choice to get up off her ass and do something. She could have sat on her ass and not make the money that she has made and instead kept at the level that she was at before her name became something.
I personally certainly don't begrudge her her success, and would readily congratulate her. It's amazing. But what makes me uncomfortable is the worldview that sees all success or failure as due to the person themselves. Obama got a firestorm of controversy when he said "you didn't build that yourself". But he had a point.
The problem is that this worldview also blames all failure on the person themselves as well. For example, if a kid is born to a broken, drug infested inner city home with crime-ridden crappy schools, then that is not taken into consideration. They just compare that person directly to Kylie Jenner, and then say that he is stupid and lazy and that's why he's not doing as well. It's just a very unfair and unjust way to judge people. It also leads to some horrific policy decisions, like that society should have no obligation to help him, and if he is just left to die on the street, that's his own fault for being so stupid and lazy.
That's because for the most part, barring certain exceptions, whether a person succeeds or does not succeed is entirely dependent on themselves. Their choices in life determine how successful they are. Yes, there is a limit to how much one can succeed in life that is more often than not determined by how their life started. But that does not mean that they cannot ever do the best that they can. Anyone that tries their best and learns from their mistakes are never stupid. And there are varying degree's of "success" which include far more than just "amount of money one currently has". Yeah, anyone that is materialistic would judge a person based entirely on how much money that person has.
Personally I think that if that kid that you talk about in your post only succeeded in getting away from that drug infested inner city and raised their kids to be good people then I would say that person was quite successful. Hell, I'd consider them successful even if they didn't get out of that area yet still managed to raise their kids to be good people.
There is far more to life than just money. Yes, it helps, but its not the end all be all. And certainly not the end all be all of of a persons character.
But you're not making threads celebrating that person as being this great, self made American success story, are you?
Instead, you're glorifying someone for whom the ONLY reason we are talking about her is because she ****ed a rapper on camera, and it went viral.
But you're not making threads celebrating that person as being this great, self made American success story, are you?
Instead, you're glorifying someone for whom the ONLY reason we are talking about her is because she ****ed a rapper on camera, and it went viral.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44802123
My overall disgust for all things Kardashian/Jenner should be no secret to anyone here.
Check off another thing that just galls my stones, calling anything Kylie does "self made".
What an absolute, outright in-your-face insult to anyone in the "real world" who is actually self-made.
Would you agree?
Do you consider Kylie's business success to be "self-made"?
Kinda negates the "self-made" part then doesn't it?
Nope. Names are actually the corner stone for any business.
Would you also consider Ivanka Trump's success in life to be "self-made"?
Yes.
Josh Ostrovsky, a.k.a The Fat Jewish, decided to create a GoFundMe fundraiser for Jenner so that she could take her net worth from $900 million to $1 billion without having to wait a year.
"Kylie Jenner was on the cover of Forbes Magazine today for having a net worth of 900 million dollars, which is heartbreaking. I don't want to live in a world where Kylie Jenner doesn't have a billion dollars. WE MUST RAISE 100 MILLION DOLLARS TO HELP HER GET TO A BILLION, PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD, THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. LINK IN BIO TO DONATE," he captioned his Instagram post.
She used her name. She was industrious. She was smart. Yes, she earned it.