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US Troops Should Withdraw from Syria, Not Protect Oil Companies

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US Troops Should Withdraw from Syria, Not Protect Oil Companies

Keeping 500 troops in-country to help Delta Crescent Energy drill only hurts America’s national security.

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8/7/20
In Senate testimony last week, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo confirmed that the United States had approved a deal between the Syrian Kurds and the American company Delta Crescent Energy to develop oil fields in northern Syria. There are many problems with this deal, but the most troubling for Americans is that it increases the risk to our national security while providing no tangible benefit. The oil deal, Pompeo told the senators, had taken longer to finalize than he expected, but “now we’re in implementation, and it can be very powerful.” He did not offer examples of any “powerful” benefits to the United States — and indeed, the deal saddles the United States with potentially major problems. A Syrian Foreign Ministry statement said Damascus “condemns in the strongest terms” the agreement between the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces, or SDF, “and an American oil company to steal Syria's oil under the sponsorship and support of the American administration." There are reportedly just 500 U.S. troops in Syria, concentrated in the eastern Der ez-Zor region. These troops have no valid military mission. There are no specified objectives or tasks whose accomplishment would qualify as a success and signal time for the withdrawal. At best they were left in Syria in 2019 “only for the oil.” While those 500 U.S. troops aren’t enough to defeat insurgent enemies in Syria, the troops are essential to providing security for this Delta Crescent Energy; without it, the civilian workers would be vulnerable to attack from any number of hostile forces in the region.

One fear is that the oil deal will be used as justification for why the troops must remain. Three times, Trump has declared that U.S. forces would withdraw from Syria; all three times he was walked back from the decision by hawkish foreign policy advocates. With this energy contract in place, it is increasingly likely Trump won’t even make a fourth attempt. That is unfortunate, because there is much to lose and nothing to gain by keeping our troops in place. Already our troops are under daily threat of attack from a host of potential enemies, and the risk of accidental clashes or miscalculation by various actors remains pointlessly high. We should never risk the lives of American troops in combat missions abroad that are not tied directly to American national security. Those already killed in action remain tragic reminders of a lingering mission that was already accomplished and should have been concluded as soon as the ISIS caliphate was deprived of its last bit of territory. It would be a travesty if the mission of American troops in Syria were changed to be a protection force for a civilian oil company for the financial benefit of the Syrian Kurds. The travesty would degenerate into tragedy if America stumbles into a pointless war because any of the multitude of risk factors sparked a lethal exchange. The most logical course of action for America, based on a realistic assessment of the situation in Syria, is to end the mission and bring all our troops home immediately.

To risk the lives of American military personnel as they act as a security force for a private oil company is highly dangerous and wrong on many levels.

Rather than obtain a drilling license from the Syrian government, politically connected individuals obtained a phony license from the US Treasury Department's Office of Foreign Assets Control.....

Related: Little-known U.S. firm secures deal for Syrian oil
 
US Troops Should Withdraw from Syria, Not Protect Oil Companies

Keeping 500 troops in-country to help Delta Crescent Energy drill only hurts America’s national security


To risk the lives of American military personnel as they act as a security force for a private oil company is highly dangerous and wrong on many levels.

Rather than obtain a drilling license from the Syrian government, politically connected individuals obtained a phony license from the US Treasury Department's Office of Foreign Assets Control.....

Related: Little-known U.S. firm secures deal for Syrian oil

What's wrong with that? Protecting the economic assets of a nations businesses if part of what militaries have done for centuries. Including the U.S.

Besides, this looks mainly like a way to funnel cash to the Kurds. I thought a bunch of people (including liberals) were up in arms a couple of years ago about the U.S. "abandoning the Kurds" in Syria.
 
What's wrong with that? Protecting the economic assets of a nations businesses if part of what militaries have done for centuries. Including the U.S.

Wtf? These are not American assets. They are in Syria.
 
US Troops Should Withdraw from Syria, Not Protect Oil Companies

Keeping 500 troops in-country to help Delta Crescent Energy drill only hurts America’s national security.

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To risk the lives of American military personnel as they act as a security force for a private oil company is highly dangerous and wrong on many levels.

Rather than obtain a drilling license from the Syrian government, politically connected individuals obtained a phony license from the US Treasury Department's Office of Foreign Assets Control.....

Related: Little-known U.S. firm secures deal for Syrian oil

The first sentence in that article tell everyone what this is all about.

In Senate testimony last week, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo confirmed that the United States had approved a deal between the Syrian Kurds and the American company Delta Crescent Energy to develop oil fields in northern Syria.

Does anyone here think we should completely abandon those people?
 
Uhhh, am I mistaken, or does that article not say it is the Kurds that are trying to do that.You know, the Kurds? The people that so many have been screaming for years now that we have to do more to help? That we should be doing all we can to help them gain their independence from Syria (and even Turkey)?So what, we should not help the Kurds now? I am so confused, first you all tell us we should help a group, then we should not help a group. Make up your damned minds, will ya?
 
Does anyone here think we should completely abandon those people?

Trump abandoned the Syrian Kurds at Manbij in October 2019.

This isn't about the Kurds. It's about stealing Syrian oil for a Western oil company and putting US military lives on the line to protect this illegal scam.
 
Uhhh, am I mistaken, or does that article not say it is the Kurds that are trying to do that.You know, the Kurds? The people that so many have been screaming for years now that we have to do more to help? That we should be doing all we can to help them gain their independence from Syria (and even Turkey)?So what, we should not help the Kurds now? I am so confused, first you all tell us we should help a group, then we should not help a group. Make up your damned minds, will ya?

This is what happens when people get caught in their own illogical and hypocritical "I hate Trump" trap.

LOL!!
 
Trump abandoned the Syrian Kurds at Manbij in October 2019.

This isn't about the Kurds. It's about stealing Syrian oil for a Western oil company and putting US military lives on the line to protect this illegal scam.

"Stealing"?

Wait, have you not been telling us for ages now that the Kurds should be in charge of their own country? That that region is theirs by right, and we should support them in reclaiming their homeland?

Is when you encourage them taking part of Turkey, that not "stealing" also?\

As I said, make up your mind. Either the Kurds deserve to be free in their own country, or they should be wiped out as rebels who are trying to divide nations.

You can not have it both ways. You can not scream in one thread that not enough is being done to support the Kurds, then in another post scream the Kurds are "stealing".

And hell, if you are so pissed off at President Trump for abandoning the Kurds, then you should be turning backflips and having an orgasm at the idea that now he is trying to help them.

This is really confusing to me, so please explain it to me. Why you are so angry that President Trump turned his backs on them, but now you are angry that he is trying to help them.
 
This is what happens when people get caught in their own illogical and hypocritical "I hate Trump" trap.

LOL!!

It is irrational as I see it.

One thing I really expect, is for people to be consistent. And quite literally he both screams because the President did not help the Kurds, then turns right around and screams because he is trying to help them.

It really is a mental illness I think. Get thousands of people together for protests, that is good. The Mayor of NYC and Governor of New York want to open schools, that is a good thing! The President encourages schools to open and has a rally, that is a bad thing!

And of course they will provide 10,000 excuses as to why they are different, but in reality it all boils down to politics. And I could not give a rat's ass about politics. If politics is your only foundation for making decisions, then I think somebody is an idiot. Although that is being mean to idiots to make that statement.

And yes, I said the same kind of things to those that ravaged our last President over such petty things also. Petty political squabbles disgust me, and I always reject them. But I also giggle in mirth when people make it so easy to point out how inconsistent they are. Then spin around over and over again in circles trying to prove that is not the case at all.
 
Trump abandoned the Syrian Kurds at Manbij in October 2019.

This isn't about the Kurds. It's about stealing Syrian oil for a Western oil company and putting US military lives on the line to protect this illegal scam.

So it is you contention that the Kurds are not really involved in this agreement? Do you have evidence of that?
 
So it is you contention that the Kurds are not really involved in this agreement? Do you have evidence of that?

The Kurds probably get a cut sure. But if you believe Trump and Delta Crescent Energy are doing this out of altruism, then I can't fix that.
 
The Kurds probably get a cut sure. But if you believe Trump and Delta Crescent Energy are doing this out of altruism, then I can't fix that.

Who cares? How many foreign policy actions by the U.S. or any other nation are motivated by "altruism"? As opposed to how many are motivated by the most base emotions like "greed".?

Ultimately results are what matter. If it was good to help the Kurds two years ago it's good to help the Kurds now. No matter how much money some corporation makes as a result.
 
The Kurds probably get a cut sure. But if you believe Trump and Delta Crescent Energy are doing this out of altruism, then I can't fix that.

Damn. Won't anybody give the Kurds a break? They are our only friends in that neck of the woods. They deserve something for taking all the losses in defeating ISIS with us.
 
Who cares? How many foreign policy actions by the U.S. or any other nation are motivated by "altruism"? As opposed to how many are motivated by the most base emotions like "greed".?

Ultimately results are what matter. If it was good to help the Kurds two years ago it's good to help the Kurds now. No matter how much money some corporation makes as a result.

But, but, but.... TrUmP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Derrrr, Orange Man Bad! Derp! Must oppose!!!!!!
 
What's wrong with that? Protecting the economic assets of a nations businesses if part of what militaries have done for centuries. Including the U.S.

Besides, this looks mainly like a way to funnel cash to the Kurds. I thought a bunch of people (including liberals) were up in arms a couple of years ago about the U.S. "abandoning the Kurds" in Syria.

The kurds were doing us a favor by hunting down ISIS.
 
Who cares? How many foreign policy actions by the U.S. or any other nation are motivated by "altruism"? As opposed to how many are motivated by the most base emotions like "greed".?

Ultimately results are what matter. If it was good to help the Kurds two years ago it's good to help the Kurds now. No matter how much money some corporation makes as a result.

I wouldnt sign up to die for company profits.
 
I wouldnt sign up to die for company profits.

The American Revolution's early rallying cry was over taxes. Americans have been fighting and dying for profits since before this country began.
 
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The American Revolution's early rallying cry was over taxes. Americans have been fighting and dying for profits since before this country began.

Then the corporations can pay for their own mercs and stop leeching off US soldiers. Actually it was over taxation without representation. Looks like you dont even know what the rallying cry was. Appeals to tradition or its always been that way are not arguments. People are going to get tired of it and refuse to fight.
 
It is irrational as I see it.

One thing I really expect, is for people to be consistent. And quite literally he both screams because the President did not help the Kurds, then turns right around and screams because he is trying to help them.

It really is a mental illness I think. Get thousands of people together for protests, that is good. The Mayor of NYC and Governor of New York want to open schools, that is a good thing! The President encourages schools to open and has a rally, that is a bad thing!

And of course they will provide 10,000 excuses as to why they are different, but in reality it all boils down to politics. And I could not give a rat's ass about politics. If politics is your only foundation for making decisions, then I think somebody is an idiot. Although that is being mean to idiots to make that statement.

And yes, I said the same kind of things to those that ravaged our last President over such petty things also. Petty political squabbles disgust me, and I always reject them. But I also giggle in mirth when people make it so easy to point out how inconsistent they are. Then spin around over and over again in circles trying to prove that is not the case at all.

Or that trump was lying about bringing the troops home and instead just used them to guard the special interests of oil companies in iraq?
 
But, but, but.... TrUmP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Derrrr, Orange Man Bad! Derp! Must oppose!!!!!!

Or that trump was lying about bringing the troops home when he stiffed the kurds? That decision was bad by all counts.
 
Then the corporations can pay for their own mercs and stop leeching off US soldiers. Actually it was over taxation without representation. Looks like you dont even know what the rallying cry was. Appeals to tradition or its always been that way are not arguments. People are going to get tired of it and refuse to fight.

Using mercenaries is actually illegal worldwide. And I know my American history quite well. If people refuse to fight after they swear an oath to do so then they can rot in prison.
 
Using mercenaries is actually illegal worldwide. And I know my American history quite well. If people refuse to fight after they swear an oath to do so then they can rot in prison.

And once again, the illogic of their arguments.

Mercenaries and Private Military is bad!

We should be using Mercenaries and Private Military!

As I said, consistency. They can not even keep their own arguments and complaints the same. Because to them the only thing that matters is politics and nothing else.

I also notice that no matter what, their argument keeps going back to the exact same thing. It's sad really. How many are willing to throw aways thousands of lives of others, just so long as their politics remain "pure".
 
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