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    As aircraft carrier heads back to sea after coronavirus outbreak, no guarantees the virus is gone

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...virus-is-gone/

    The Navy has sent an aircraft carrier that was crippled in port for two months with a coronavirus outbreak back to sea, as officials acknowledged that new cases of the disease could arise on the ship.

    The USS Theodore Roosevelt departed Naval Base Guam on Thursday, in anticipation of needed qualifying landings for pilots on the 1,093-foot ship. The Navy’s top officer, Adm. Mike Gilday, asked how he could be confident there will not be an additional outbreak aboard, asked for a different perspective.

    “I would ask you not to look at every covid case on every ship as a failure,” Gilday responded in a phone call with a handful of reporters.

    The carrier, with a crew of about 4,900 sailors, is returning to sea after the virus first appeared on the ship in March and rapidly spread through the crew. The ship pulled into port in Guam at the end of the month, and more than 1,100 sailors eventually tested positive, including one who died.
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    Re: As aircraft carrier heads back to sea after coronavirus outbreak, no guarantees the virus is gon

    If they are just doing carrier qualifications, I don't see why they couldn't return to port or dust off the sick as needed.

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    Re: As aircraft carrier heads back to sea after coronavirus outbreak, no guarantees the virus is gon

    Quote Originally Posted by JacksinPA View Post
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...virus-is-gone/

    The Navy has sent an aircraft carrier that was crippled in port for two months with a coronavirus outbreak back to sea, as officials acknowledged that new cases of the disease could arise on the ship.

    The USS Theodore Roosevelt departed Naval Base Guam on Thursday, in anticipation of needed qualifying landings for pilots on the 1,093-foot ship. The Navy’s top officer, Adm. Mike Gilday, asked how he could be confident there will not be an additional outbreak aboard, asked for a different perspective.

    “I would ask you not to look at every covid case on every ship as a failure,” Gilday responded in a phone call with a handful of reporters.

    The carrier, with a crew of about 4,900 sailors, is returning to sea after the virus first appeared on the ship in March and rapidly spread through the crew. The ship pulled into port in Guam at the end of the month, and more than 1,100 sailors eventually tested positive, including one who died.
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    Tough job managing that many sailors & Marines in very close quarters in the midst of the pandemic.
    There aren't Marines on CVNs, not normally. Did have an Army doctor once.

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    Re: As aircraft carrier heads back to sea after coronavirus outbreak, no guarantees the virus is gon

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    There aren't Marines on CVNs, not normally. Did have an Army doctor once.

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    Who do they use for special weapons security? I suspect that there is a marine detachment aboard for that purpose.
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    Re: As aircraft carrier heads back to sea after coronavirus outbreak, no guarantees the virus is gon

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    Who do they use for special weapons security? I suspect that there is a marine detachment aboard for that purpose.
    It is my understanding that US aircraft carriers stopped deploying with nuclear weapons in 1991 and all US surface warships followed suit after 1994. The TLAM/N was retired from US surface warships in 2010.

    I believe that only US SSBNs (Boomers) deploy with nuclear weapons onboard. roguenuke would probably know more about this.


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    Re: As aircraft carrier heads back to sea after coronavirus outbreak, no guarantees the virus is gon

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    It is my understanding that US aircraft carriers stopped deploying with nuclear weapons in 1991 and all US surface warships followed suit after 1994. The TLAM/N was retired from US surface warships in 2010.

    I believe that only US SSBNs (Boomers) deploy with nuclear weapons onboard. roguenuke would probably know more about this.
    Thanks for the update. I haven't been following this closely. Some quick reading shows that you are correct.

    My first hand knowledge is a "bit outdated".

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    Re: As aircraft carrier heads back to sea after coronavirus outbreak, no guarantees the virus is gon

    The chart is presented by the American Federation of Scientists and after the Obama administration declassified Cold War nuclear weapons at sea onboard SSBNs.

    The declassified numbers end in 1991 with the offloading of non-strategic naval nuclear weapons from US Navy vessels. After that only strategic missile submarines (SSBNs) have continued to deploy with nuclear weapons onboard. Those numbers are still secret.

    AFS however notes that, "growing tensions with Russia and China now make some ask if the United States needs to increase the role of its nuclear weapons and once again equip aircraft carriers with the capability to deliver nuclear bombs and once again develop and deploy nuclear land-attack sea-launched cruise missiles on attack submarines."


    Declassified: US Nuclear Weapons At Sea

    Posted on Feb.03, 2016 in NATO, Nuclear Weapons, Tactical Nuclear Weapons, United States

    by Hans M. Kristensen






    The declassified numbers end in 1991 with the offloading of non-strategic naval nuclear weapons from US Navy vessels. After that only strategic missile submarines (SSBNs) have continued to deploy with nuclear weapons onboard. Those numbers are still secret. In the table above we have incorporated our estimates for the number of nuclear warhead deployed on US ballistic missile submarines since 1991. Those estimates show that afloat weapons increased during the 1990s as more Ohio-class SSBNs entered the fleet.

    Because the total stockpile decreased significantly in the early 1990s, the percentage of it that was deployed at sea grew until it reached an all-time high of nearly 33 percent in 2000. Retirement of four SSBNs, changes to strategic war plans, and the effect of arms control agreements have since reduced the number of nuclear weapons deployed at sea to just over 1,000 in 2015. That corresponds to nearly 22 percent of the stockpile deployed at sea. The just over 1,000 afloat warheads today may be less than during the Cold War, but it is roughly equivalent to the nuclear weapons stockpiles of Britain, China, France, India, Israel, Pakistan and North Korea combined. Moreover, growing tensions with Russia and China now make some ask if the United States needs to increase the role of its nuclear weapons and once again equip aircraft carriers with the capability to deliver nuclear bombs and once again develop and deploy nuclear land-attack sea-launched cruise missiles on attack submarines.

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    Re: As aircraft carrier heads back to sea after coronavirus outbreak, no guarantees the virus is gon

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    Who do they use for special weapons security? I suspect that there is a marine detachment aboard for that purpose.
    No there are no marines on CVNs, normally. I was stationed on one for almost 5 years and very much in touch and knowledgeable about them after that. We don't have marines aboard, not for at least the last two decades, as a normal thing.

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    Re: As aircraft carrier heads back to sea after coronavirus outbreak, no guarantees the virus is gon

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    It is my understanding that US aircraft carriers stopped deploying with nuclear weapons in 1991 and all US surface warships followed suit after 1994. The TLAM/N was retired from US surface warships in 2010.

    I believe that only US SSBNs (Boomers) deploy with nuclear weapons onboard. roguenuke would probably know more about this.
    There are marines, sometimes, on what we refer to as "baby carriers", LHDs, as my husband was on one of those when he was in. But it isnt about weapons, mainly just transport.

    Actually what you find Marines on fits with what their name means to other branches.

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    Re: As aircraft carrier heads back to sea after coronavirus outbreak, no guarantees the virus is gon

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No there are no marines on CVNs, normally. I was stationed on one for almost 5 years and very much in touch and knowledgeable about them after that. We don't have marines aboard, not for at least the last two decades, as a normal thing.

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    Yes, it would seem that I am officially obsolete. Back in the day they used Marines on many ships. FBM submarine squadrons had Marines on their tenders for security. In fast attack squadrons we had to make do with sailors. A good part of my last year of 8 in I worked in weapons security.

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