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Acting Secretary of the Navy has submitted his resignation

Tangmo said:
You know Army is the largest force in numbers and griping about lieutenants especially but not only is a passtime that is always in fashion, common, mundane, expected if not required, trite and glib. It's like certifying one's membership of the informal and floating EP Club. Club members as it were are sure another guy could do better...until the other guy comes along.
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Griping about JO’s with buddies while drinking beer at the club is one thing. Making an uninformed negative blanket statement about the entire officer corp of a service branch you have never been part of is another.

Tangmo said:
You and I aren't saying much that is different. Any varying that might exist derives from this particular Trump stinker and one's attitude toward the major stinkers of Big Navy.
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Yes, what we are saying is different. You are ignorantly asserting that quality Naval officers are the exception, and I’m correcting you, saying the exception are poor/low quality Naval officers.

Tangmo said:
Sure, thanks for the invitation as it's only right I have some evidence / proof. Fair is fair.

It’s Hardly Shocking the Navy Fired a Commander for Warning of Coronavirus Threat. It’s Part of a Pattern.

Capt. Brett Crozier, fired this week from command of the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt, joins a growing list of Navy officers who attempted to raise concerns about the safety of their ships and crew, only to pay with their jobs. Navy experts believe that the cumulative effects of the service’s decisions over the past several years to punish those who speak out will result in silencing sailors with legitimate concerns about their health and safety.

“This may have the effect of chilling the responses of other commanding officers because it will be perceived, fairly or not, as a shoot the messenger scenario,” said James Stavridis, a retired admiral and former head of the United States Naval Institute, who called for an investigation into the circumstances surrounding the dismissal. The Navy’s top officer, Adm. Mike Gilday, initially praised Crozier’s attempt to warn his superiors. But the next day, Thursday, Modly, the Navy’s civilian boss, reversed course, telling reporters that he fired Crozier because he lost confidence in the officer for not using a secure email network to properly route his complaint. As part of our 2019 investigation into the incidents in the Navy’s 7th Fleet, its largest overseas presence, ProPublica found repeated instances of frontline commanders warning superiors of risks the fleet was facing — a lack of training, exhausted crews, deteriorating ships and equipment. Those warnings, all sent through the normal chain of command, were met with indifference.

Behind the Navy's Firing of Capt. Brett Crozier
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Still waiting for evidence/proof that any “Naval ship commanders have been relieved over a period of years because they felt they had to start shouting about inadequacies of equipment, repairs and upkeep, crew training and preparation, direction and guidance to commanders and so on.”

All that you have provided is a vague, unsupported claim of removals from command.

Do you normally accept vague, unsupported claims you read as fact? Is your threshold for veracity really that low?

I’ll ask you again to please support your assertion with facts. Post the name of just one Commanding Officer who has been relieved of command for “complaining”, along with a supporting link.

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Hari Seldon said:
Didn't he fly helicopters? He must have done something well. IMHO he really screwed this up.
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Pilot of a helo isn't exactly captain of a CVN. Or XO of a CVN before that.

Plus Crozier had two combat tours in Iraq in the F/A-18 Super Hornet while with Modly this is the only combat he's experienced and he got his dumb arse whupped. Modly got tailhooked and found out it hurts.

Trumper loudmouth idiot that he is.
 
Tangmo said:
Pilot of a helo isn't exactly captain of a CVN. Or XO of a CVN before that.

Plus Crozier had two combat tours in Iraq in the F/A-18 Super Hornet while with Modly this is the only combat he's experienced and he got his dumb arse whupped. Modly got tailhooked and found out it hurts.

Trumper loudmouth idiot that he is.
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I'm not disagreeing. At least he did something related to the armed services. Kind of like how Bush flew fighter jets just not in combat. Then there is his Iraq fiasco.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Now we are talking!

Stu Cvrk


https://twitter.com/STUinSD/status/1247610721791287299
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The person you’re citing and applauding doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

When I joined the service in 1981, it was still mostly made up of Vietnam era policies. Morale was deep in the toilet, training was next to nonexistent, and material readiness was a disaster.

It took decades, a lot of resources, and a helluva lot of hard work to un**** the mess leftover from the 70’s.
 
Also, that little trip to Guam to mouth off against their former commander (which got recorded, at least partly) supposedly has cost the US taxpayer almost a quarter of a million dollars. And the next day he leaves, what a waste of money.
 
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